Quarterbacking is in steep decline

Outside of maybe officiating, I think the league in general is miles ahead in just about every facet than it was in previous generations.

The players are bigger, faster, and more talented. The schemes are an order of magnitude more complex. You could probably take the worst team in the league today and you'd totally destroy the best team in the league from 30 years ago.
 
Tony Romo is somehow regarded as a good QB by our fans so I know TC is telling the truth.
 
LOL has Dalton done anything to be on this list yet and Cam is pending? Questionable at best but in the last 20-25 years there are only 10-15 QB's that were great for more than a one or two year period.
 
Heisenberg said:
Outside of maybe officiating, I think the league in general is miles ahead in just about every facet than it was in previous generations.

The players are bigger, faster, and more talented. The schemes are an order of magnitude more complex. You could probably take the worst team in the league today and you'd totally destroy the best team in the league from 30 years ago.
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interesting. not trying to argue but some folks would say that back then the rules aren't as strict and safety oriented thus the players were tougher and had to take more damage and more risks


but you're right they are built different now.
 
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Heisenberg said:
Outside of maybe officiating, I think the league in general is miles ahead in just about every facet than it was in previous generations.

The players are bigger, faster, and more talented. The schemes are an order of magnitude more complex. You could probably take the worst team in the league today and you'd totally destroy the best team in the league from 30 years ago.
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Wow. The Jacksonville Jaguars could beat the 1985 Bears?
 
DallasCowboys2080 said:
interesting. not trying to argue but some folks would say that back then the rules aren't as strict and safety oriented thus the players were tougher and had to take more damage and more risks


but you're right they are built different now.
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While I think there's truth in that, with how fast and strong players are today, they had to start thinking about player safety at some point. Hits that injured players in years past would be just that much worse today. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they still allowed plays like "Nighttrain" used to pull off like that clothesline of his, someone would have died by now.
 
PA Cowboy Fan said:
Wow. The Jacksonville Jaguars could beat the 1985 Bears?
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Yes?

There are schemes today the 85 Bears would have fits over. Same goes with the Steel Curtain. Hell, Steelers D just 10 years ago was smash mouth but the NFL evolved to beat that kind of defense.

There's a reason many state the game has passed Dick Lebeau by. Now, take a DC from the 70s and 80s and match their team up with a spread offense and see how they do.
 
mattjames2010 said:
Yes?

There are schemes today the 85 Bears would have fits over. Same goes with the Steel Curtain. Hell, Steelers D just 10 years ago was smash mouth but the NFL evolved to beat that kind of defense.

There's a reason many state the game has passed Dick Lebeau by.
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Wow. And Lebeau was considered a genius only a few years ago. Let today's players play the game under the old rules and it wouldn't be close.
 
PA Cowboy Fan said:
Wow. The Jacksonville Jaguars could beat the 1985 Bears?
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Absolutely. Todays teams would push that team around and would just flat be faster/better at the skill positions.

That is not taking a single thing away from that team. In their era, they were dominant. We aren't in that era anymore though.
 
Heisenberg said:
While I think there's truth in that, with how fast and strong players are today, they had to start thinking about player safety at some point. Hits that injured players in years past would be just that much worse today. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they still allowed plays like "Nighttrain" used to pull off like that clothesline of his, someone would have died by now.
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great point! i can def see that.
 
Heisenberg said:
Absolutely. Todays teams would push that team around and would just flat be faster/better at the skill positions.

That is not taking a single thing away from that team. In their era, they were dominant. We aren't in that era anymore though.
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they wouldnt have an answer for that Bears D and Refrigerator Perry.
 
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PA Cowboy Fan said:
Wow. And Lebeau was considered a genius only a few years ago. Let today's players play the game under the old rules and it wouldn't be close.
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Thank you for making my point. Lebeau was a great DC 10 years ago, a fantastic one. The NFL constantly evolves, it's more a chess match than any other sport. A great scheme can often times beat a team of great players.

The "rules" of 85 wouldn't change the outcome, athletic freaks coupled with advanced offensive schemes would completely obliterate defenses of old.
 
What a QB is required to do in college is much different that what is required in the NFL. They have to be deadly accurate in the NFL and they don't in college. Two completely different systems for the most part. The teams that have a great QB in college that run a pro style offense typically do better in the NFL. The others who are good enough but don't run a pro style offense have to be on a good team in the NFL and have time to adjust. Everything has to go right, the stars have to align so to speak. It is very difficult for the scouts to pick a guy and know he's going to be good. Its a crap shoot.....
 
Drafting a quarterback isn't a perfect science, but it never really has been. There's always been some risk involved with taking a quarterback. Players we thought were sure hits as a number one selection turn out to be anything but. The Cowboys have to draft one because what other options are there? The few elite quarterbacks aren't gonna be allowed to hit free agency by their respective teams. None of the current quarterbacks are starting material for the long haul.
 
Heisenberg said:
Outside of maybe officiating, I think the league in general is miles ahead in just about every facet than it was in previous generations.

The players are bigger, faster, and more talented. The schemes are an order of magnitude more complex. You could probably take the worst team in the league today and you'd totally destroy the best team in the league from 30 years ago.
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That might be true, but the players today couldn't handle the game 30 years ago either. They are to ME oriented now, and cry too much about everything. Bigger doesn't mean more tough. These guys nowadays don't want to practice more than once a week, sit out if they get hit hard, and talk to the media about their coach if they get yelled at.
 
Maybe it's the offensive coaching in the league that's out of date with the talent.
 
It's nearly impossible to tell anything at the QB position, especially when the sure-fire prospect in Andrew Luck is having a year like he has been having. If we get a high draft pick, I'm not sure if I'd go with QB in the first, especially since there doesn't look to be any outstanding qbs coming out. I'd actually consider getting a safety or some other player to finish rounding out the defense or giving Romo another shot with a top flight running back. I'd consider using a 2nd or 3rd for qb. We should have drafted either Hundley or bryce petty, but too late for that.
 
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