Question about a word that we keep hearing, Rotation

[dwreck27]

I would say that Bennett and Avril have been a strong backbone. Might not be superstars, but a lot better than average.

That is their baseline. We have not got to that yet.

Yes thank you I hate it when people make it seem like they have straight JAGs like we do on their dline!

Bennett and Avril would be walk in starters right now along with that kid (who we should have taken the chance on) Frank clark i thknk? the Dlinemen from michigan who slipped due to off the field stuff has been a young stud for them

 

[waldoputty]

Jimmy rotated the DL on the 92 and 93 Super Bowl teams.
The backups in 92:
Chad Hennings
Leon Lett
Jimmie Jones
Jim Jeffcoat
Tony Hill

dont you mean Tolbert?

 

[xwalker]

dont you mean Tolbert?

Tolbert was a starter. The list was just backups.

The other starters:
Haley
Casillis
Maryland

 

[xwalker]

You answered your own question. You have a rotation when you lack talent.

No, JImmy rotated and they were loaded with talent.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Like an earlier poster stated, it's like running back by committee. If you have a stud running back, you use him and only spell him ocassionally. Heck, peeps here get upset when Zeke is taken off the field on some third down situations and takes more than a series rest. If you have elite players, they need to play.

I find it very hard to believe that Khalil Mack or Von Miller would not be getting 70-80% of the snaps at defensive end if they were Dallas Cowboys. We better not be rotating those guys lol.

 

[Alexander]

Yes thank you I hate it when people make it seem like they have straight JAGs like we do on their dline!

Bennett and Avril would be walk in starters right now along with that kid (who we should have taken the chance on) Frank clark i thknk? the Dlinemen from michigan who slipped due to off the field stuff has been a young stud for them

Bennett, Avril and Clark as Cowboys would have people around here betting their house, dog and best friend on a Super Bowl title.

 

[Risen Star]

The 90s Cowboys were built pre-salary cap with ridiculous depth. You had starting quality players on the bench. To mention that in defense of this is nonsense.

The team lacks talent. So they rotate.

The worst part is I think this is how our overrated defensive coordinator wants it. He loves those under-talented effort guys. Just look at his draft reaction when they took Ivie. Charlton, Awuzie or Lewis didn't get that reaction.

 

[CCBoy]

I think you rotate these days even if you have big talent on the DL. The early 90s DL rotated although some got more snaps. Even a D Ware comes out occasionally. If you're Randy White etc then you just get more snaps.

Solve all problems and just line up:

Bob Lilly
Randy White
DeMarcus Ware
Charles Haley

...what is on roster now, works well in rotation!

Right now would be a good time to target some top shelf defensive linemen, to push strongly into the future now. Maybe pony up some picks to get a similar snap shot again.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Bennett, Avril and Clark as Cowboys would have people around here betting their house, dog and best friend on a Super Bowl title.

All I have left is my best friend after last season's shortened run. And he's looking over his shoulder.

 

[Melonfeud]

All I have left is my best friend after last season's shortened run. And he's looking over his shoulder.

 

[Alexander]

The worst part is I think this is how our overrated defensive coordinator wants it. He loves those under-talented effort guys. Just look at his draft reaction when they took Ivie. Charlton, Awuzie or Lewis didn't get that reaction.

It is all part of the philosophy. Hey, give him Bob Lilly's number too, just for added effect.

Marinelli, the master motivator of high effort guys.

 

[Stash]

Greg Hardy averaged 76% on the defensive snaps in the 12 games he played in 2015. He has a game high of 96% in week 7 that year.

Week..Def Snap Pct .. Player
7 ….. 96.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
9 ….. 88.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
10 ….. 85.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
16 ….. 79.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
8 ….. 79.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
13 ….. 78.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
16 ….. 77.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
15 ….. 77.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
7 ….. 77.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
15 ….. 73.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
13 ….. 72.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
11 ….. 71.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
14 ….. 69.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
11 ….. 69.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
15 ….. 69.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
5 ….. 69.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
5 ….. 69.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
10 ….. 68.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
13 ….. 68.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
11 ….. 67.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
16 ….. 63.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
8 ….. 63.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
17 ….. 63.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
14 ….. 63.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
9 ….. 62.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
7 ….. 62.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
12 ….. 61.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
12 ….. 61.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
14 ….. 60.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
14 ….. 59.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
12 ….. 59.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
12 ….. 59.00% ….. 76-G.Hardy
12 ….. 59.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
17 ….. 58.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
5 ….. 58.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
17 ….. 58.00% ….. 98-T.Crawford
7 ….. 57.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
9 ….. 56.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
8 ….. 56.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
11 ….. 56.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
8 ….. 55.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
15 ….. 55.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
13 ….. 54.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
10 ….. 54.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
8 ….. 52.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
17 ….. 52.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
17 ….. 52.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
10 ….. 51.00% ….. 90-D.Lawrence
9 ….. 48.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
14 ….. 48.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
9 ….. 47.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
5 ….. 46.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
16 ….. 45.00% ….. 63-C.Walker
14 ….. 45.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
17 ….. 45.00% ….. 63-C.Walker
10 ….. 45.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
17 ….. 45.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
15 ….. 44.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
16 ….. 44.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
8 ….. 44.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
16 ….. 42.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
9 ….. 41.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
11 ….. 40.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
5 ….. 39.00% ….. 96-N.Hayden
7 ….. 38.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
11 ….. 38.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
9 ….. 38.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
13 ….. 38.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
10 ….. 37.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
12 ….. 36.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
16 ….. 35.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
15 ….. 32.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
12 ….. 32.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
10 ….. 31.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
10 ….. 31.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
14 ….. 31.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
13 ….. 29.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
5 ….. 29.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
12 ….. 28.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
11 ….. 27.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
14 ….. 26.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
7 ….. 26.00% ….. 58-J.Crawford
8 ….. 24.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
13 ….. 23.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
11 ….. 23.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
13 ….. 23.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
15 ….. 23.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
17 ….. 22.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
15 ….. 21.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
9 ….. 18.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
8 ….. 16.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
7 ….. 15.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
7 ….. 13.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
16 ….. 10.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
5 ….. 10.00% ….. 95-D.Irving
16 ….. 0.00% ….. 92-J.Mincey
5 ….. 0.00% ….. 94-R.Gregory
5 ….. 0.00% ….. 99-R.Russell
7 ….. 0.00% ….. 99-R.Russell
8 ….. 0.00% ….. 99-R.Russell
9 ….. 0.00% ….. 99-R.Russell
10 ….. 0.00% ….. 99-R.Russell
11 ….. 0.00% ….. 99-R.Russell
12 ….. 0.00% ….. 99-R.Russell
2> 99-R.Russell

This list clearly shows that the better players play more snaps. Not any more complicated than that.

Would they still rotate some? Sure, even the very best need a break every now and then. But if a player separates himself from the pack, he'll play more snaps.

If we're evenly rotating snaps, it's because we don't have players distinguishing themselves from the rest.

 

[Alexander]

If we're evenly rotating snaps, it's because we don't have players distinguishing themselves from the rest.

Consistency is a problem that lends itself to it as well. Irving could make some splash plays but he was not consistent. If he were, he would be rotated in and out less.

 

[Stash]

Consistency is a problem that lends itself to it as well. Irving could make some splash plays but he was not consistent. If he were, he would be rotated in and out less.

Most definitely. I'm hoping that he takes that next step this year. He can nail down a LDE role for himself, help the team immensely, and get himself closer to a monster payday. Everybody wins. The tools and measurables are certainly there.

I just went back and watched some highlights from the Tampa Bay game and he dominated Gosder Cherilus. Flat out embarrassed him and beat him every which way a guy could get beat. If he can ever out tat together consistently? Look out!

 

[Alexander]

I just went back and watched some highlights from the Tampa Bay game and he dominated Gosder Cherilus. Flat out embarrassed him and beat him every which way a guy could get beat. If he can ever out tat together consistently? Look out!

He abused both Cherilus and his replacement Leonard Wester. Well, Cherilus retired as his body is too beat up and Wester is hardly a top talent.

It is one thing to overwhelm mediocre linemen with talent alone but it has to come against better opponents with more regularity.

 

[Ranching]

Are we rotating because it's a philosophy we have for our defense or are we rotating because we don't have superstar pro bowl caliber players on defense. I have a hard time believing coach Rod would rotate Brooks Sapp Lynch Barber so on and so forth.

Times have changed, with all the passing defensive linemen get gassed getting after the QB. Pass rushing play after play beats the hell out of you. OL use their butts and upper body strength to pass block DL exert more energy because they are on attack mode.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Are we rotating because it's a philosophy we have for our defense or are we rotating because we don't have superstar pro bowl caliber players on defense. I have a hard time believing coach Rod would rotate Brooks Sapp Lynch Barber so on and so forth.

I said this before.......................I didnt see Sapp getting rotated out for anything more than rest. Its great to have a rotation, but in the big moments and most of the game you arent sitting Sapp on the bench so you can have a nice rotation. If you have a stud, he is going to get most of the reps. Which to this point, we dont have a stud anywhere on the line. NO one of pro bowl caliber. At least we havent seen it as of yet.

 

[AsthmaField]

Hey, give him Bob Lilly's number too, just for added effect.

Those early Cowboys had their 74 Lilly... now we have our 74 Ivie!

If a Lilly was that good, just think what our Poison Ivie will be like!!!!!!

 

[Stash]

He abused both Cherilus and his replacement Leonard Wester. Well, Cherilus retired as his body is too beat up and Wester is hardly a top talent.

It is one thing to overwhelm mediocre linemen with talent alone but it has to come against better opponents with more regularity.

I'm hoping he gets more opportunity to show it as well. I think he's flashed more than Crawford or Lawrence at that spot and I'd like to see more.