Question about and opiates as they relate to suspended players

csirl

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Its considered a narcotic up here in Canada. Hence why i said i figured it would be on the list. I understand your a DR. Ive taken methadone, and let me tell you, i could barely function let alone compete physically at any level. Just personal experience here talking man.

Also considered a narcotic where I live. Its become an alternative to heroin. Is even sold illegally as such by street dealers. Methadone clinics have become very controversial as you can't distinguish between the methadone user and heroin user.
 

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Also considered a narcotic where I live. Its become an alternative to heroin. Is even sold illegally as such by street dealers. Methadone clinics have become very controversial as you can't distinguish between the methadone user and heroin user.
Exactly where i was going. Thank you.
 

AshyLarry06

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Wrong again.

Methadone is an analgesic that works as a mu-receptor agonist and partial NMDA receptor agonist.

Its unique mechanism and efficacy of pain control is useful for many acute and chronic pain states, including the complex symptoms of heroin withdrawal. It is much less likely to cause sedation and bowel dysfunction than the opiates.

Methadone is harder to get off of than heroin, the withdrawals are 5 times as bad and lasts a month longer. Bupenorphine is horrible too and i'm speaking from personal experience. I was on suboxone for a year (at the behest of my outpatient rehab physician) and was never able to get off of them. The withdrawals from bupenorhpine aren't as intense but last much longer and the lingering effects can be hellish. Bottom line- opiates are trouble.
 

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Methadone is harder to get off of than heroin, the withdrawals are 5 times as bad and lasts a month longer. Bupenorphine is horrible too and i'm speaking from personal experience. I was on suboxone for a year (at the behest of my outpatient rehab physician) and was never able to get off of them. The withdrawals from bupenorhpine aren't as intense but last much longer and the lingering effects can be hellish. Bottom line- opiates are trouble.

Yes, opiates and other controlled substances are controlled for a reason -- they are dangerous drugs. But used properly, they can be lifesaving.

Methadone is not anything like heroin in structure, function, or usage potential. It is not a heroin analog.

I treat chronic pain patients every day with methadone, and stopping it is not complicated; none of my patients have ever had withdrawals.

I would advise people not to use or respond to anecdotal evidence or posts on a public forum from unlicensed individuals for healthcare advice.
 

AshyLarry06

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Yes, opiates and other controlled substances are controlled for a reason -- they are dangerous drugs. But used properly, they can be lifesaving.

Methadone is not anything like heroin in structure, function, or usage potential. It is not a heroin analog.

I treat chronic pain patients every day with methadone, and stopping it is not complicated; none of my patients have ever had withdrawals.

I would advise people not to use or respond to anecdotal evidence or posts on a public forum from unlicensed individuals for healthcare advice

I'm speaking from personal experience, sir, something which cannot be discounted imho...
 
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