Question for the Romo fans

[DMAC]

I've read on here so many times that without Romo, we're anywhere from a 2-14 to 5-11 team. Tony is the only reason we were able to stay in contention down to the final Sunday.

What are you basing this on? Are you saying that there is no QB out there that could have taken us to as good as of a record? No RGIII, Cam, Stafford, Ryan, Brady, Peyton, Eli, Ben, Luck? None of these QB's could have done as well on this team as Romo did?

Or are you saying, that with Orton, and only Orton, we would have fared worse?

Just curious as to how delirious some of you really are!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I'm guessing with Orton's lack of mobility, and how bad our OL was in containing rushers, that is a factor. Romo made alot of play's outside the pocket, avoiding the rush.

 

[Hostile]

Just curious as to how delirious some of you really are!

I am very delirious. I blame it on the feather underwear I got for Christmas. It just tickles me to no end. I'm spotting right now just thinking about a how moving in my chair will send peels of laughter across the office.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I am very delirious. I blame on the feather underwear I got for Christmas. It just tickles me to no end. I'm spotting right now just thinking about a how moving in my chair will send peels of laughter across the office.

:laugh2:

 

[Future]

I don't think a single QB in the league other than Brady, Rodgers, or Roeth could have any success on this team...Luck and RGIII have the potential to do so.

 

[RoboQB]

I am very delirious. I blame on the feather underwear I got for Christmas. It just tickles me to no end. I'm spotting right now just thinking about a how moving in my chair will send peels of laughter across the office.

I was going to post something educational fot the OP, but that was too freakin' funny

 

[wileedog]

I've read on here so many times that without Romo, we're anywhere from a 2-14 to 5-11 team. Tony is the only reason we were able to stay in contention down to the final Sunday.

What are you basing this on? Are you saying that there is no QB out there that could have taken us to as good as of a record? No RGIII, Cam, Stafford, Ryan, Brady, Peyton, Eli, Ben, Luck? None of these QB's could have done as well on this team as Romo did?

Or are you saying, that with Orton, and only Orton, we would have fared worse?

Just curious as to how delirious some of you really are!

The point has never been that there aren't other QBs that could do better (or worse) with this team. It has always been that the team has a ton of issues, but the QB isn't one of them.

There are better QBs than Romo in the league, no question. There are MUCH, MUCH better Olines, Dlines, and Safeties than we have. So instead of punting the one position we are ok at (and BTW, the hardest position to find in just about any sport), how about we address these other issues first and see what happens?

 

[ufcrules1]

It has always been that the team has a ton of issues, but the QB isn't one of them.

That is funny. He sure did look like one of them when he gave the game away for the division against the 30th ranked passing defense in the league. Romo 100% is part of the problem here. He isn't the only problem or even the biggest problem, but he sure the hell is part of the problem.

 

[wileedog]

That is funny. He sure did look like one of them when he gave the game away for the division against the 30th ranked passing defense in the league. Romo 100% is part of the problem here. He isn't the only problem or even the biggest problem, but he sure the hell is part of the problem.

If your expectation is that your QB needs to come out every game, week in and week out and play flawless football to win games, yes Romo is part of the problem. He will never be a guy like Payton or Brady, and finding a guy like Payton or Brady is pretty dang hard.

If your plan is to build a good football team with a good QB who can occasionally win games for you, and who occasionally your defense or running game needs to pick up, then you can win with Romo. Quite frankly that's a better plan than hoping you win the QB drafting lottery and get one of those generational guys.

 

[Aven8]

Just heard Mort on Galloway say if Jerry decided to trade him what could he get. He didn't balk, he said a 1st and 3rd, mayber 2 2nds and another in the future, maybe more. Every GM loves this guy.

//thread.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

I am a Romo supporter but I get tired of people saying we would only win a couple of games without him. There is no way to know this. I know our line isn't very good but how do you know a less mobile QB wouldn't be able to read coverage/ get rid of the ball quicker? I think we need to keep Romo but there are other guys who are not Brady/Manning that could lead this team to 8-8.....

 

[zack]

I've read on here so many times that without Romo, we're anywhere from a 2-14 to 5-11 team. Tony is the only reason we were able to stay in contention down to the final Sunday.

What are you basing this on? Are you saying that there is no QB out there that could have taken us to as good as of a record? No RGIII, Cam, Stafford, Ryan, Brady, Peyton, Eli, Ben, Luck? None of these QB's could have done as well on this team as Romo did?

Or are you saying, that with Orton, and only Orton, we would have fared worse?

Just curious as to how delirious some of you really are!

How about a better question for you? What kind of season would you expect the QB's for these teams to have without a real consistent running game?

Seahawks
Commanders
Packers
Vikings
49ers
Falcons

Bengals
Texans
Ravens
Colts
Patriots
Broncos

 

[wileedog]

I am a Romo supporter but I get tired of people saying we would only win a couple of games without him. There is no way to know this. I know our line isn't very good but how do you know a less mobile QB wouldn't be able to read coverage/ get rid of the ball quicker? I think we need to keep Romo but there are other guys who are not Brady/Manning that could lead this team to 8-8.....

Read this about the Cinci game and tell me how someone "reading coverage faster" would have avoided the pummeling Romo took. Lineman were basically getting beat instantly.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/1...no-Atkins/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=834787

And that's the first example from one quick GOogle search. I could find a lot more videos with very little effort of total jailbreaks, some with 3 man rushes.

I'm not saying Romo was superman back there doing something no one else could do, the point is he is a good player constantly being put in a terrible position to fail. That fact that he does some time is not grounds to boot him.

 

[superpunk]

Posted this on another forum will repost here.

You have to look at almost the entire rest of the team before you look at Romo.

Look at the teams surrounding us in the statistical categories that most correlate to winning in the NFL.

Passer rating allowed - we are bottom five. The others? NO, OAK, PHI, KC. One team with a losing record (and only halfway decent because their QB, who also threw a ton of picks, carried them to it). The rest is the top 3 picks in the draft this upcoming season.

Passer rating - we are in the 5-10 range (9 overall) - Of those top 10 squads, only two missed the playoffs. Can we guess who they were? Again - New Orleans and Dallas. Is there anyone saying Drew Brees is New Orleans biggest problem? Would they be idiots if they were? Absolutely.

Rushing correlates less to winning but we were next to last in the league in rushing offense. The bottom 5 - oh look, it's oakland, jax and arizona with Atlanta thrown in.

It's not that Romo is perfect, he's just about last on the list of things that need fixed with this team. If you get a performance from your QB of the caliber we got from Romo this season and that NO got from Brees, you should stand a very good chance of making the playoffs. After all 80% of those teams did this season. Why didn't we? Because the rest of our team was absolutely dreadful. And if we HADN'T had Romo, with the company we are keeping statistically (teams like oakland, jacksonville, arizona, KC and philly), chances are that we would have had a top 5 pick in the draft.

Romo and Brees allowed their respective teams to achieve mediocrity - which is far better than they should have, when you look at how the rest of the team performed.

 

[ufcrules1]

How about a better question for you? What kind of season would you expect the QB's for these teams to have without a real consistent running game?

Seahawks
Commanders
Packers
Vikings
49ers
Falcons

Bengals
Texans
Ravens
Colts
Patriots
Broncos

Aaron Rodgers has NEVER had a good running game or Oline. Especially this year and yet he still succeeds.. why? Because he understands that not everything around him will be perfect and he knows the most important thing every QB should know...PROTECT THE BALL. Romo had enough of a team around him to win the division this year but ROMO choked and gave that game away himself. It's just more of the same with him.

 

[Arkyvarminter]

Read this about the Cinci game and tell me how someone "reading coverage faster" would have avoided the pummeling Romo took. Lineman were basically getting beat instantly.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/1...no-Atkins/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=834787

And that's the first example from one quick GOogle search. I could find a lot more videos with very little effort of total jailbreaks, some with 3 man rushes.

I'm not saying Romo was superman back there doing something no one else could do, the point is he is a good player constantly being put in a terrible position to fail. That fact that he does some time is not grounds to boot him.

I 100% agree with you. Romo needs a new playcaller......

 

[ufcrules1]

Lets see how many excuses Romo had so far in his career.

1. Oline has never been good enough.

2. Defense has never been good enough.

3. Receivers drop too many balls.

4. Receivers run the wrong routes.

5. Coaching is never good enough. (Parcells, Phillips, and now JG)

6. Running game has never been good enough.

7. Ball was slippery.

8. Team gets too many pre snap penalties.

etc etc etc.

 

[Aven8]

Lets see how many excuses Romo had so far in his career.

1. Oline has never been good enough.

2. Defense has never been good enough.

3. Receivers drop too many balls.

4. Receivers run the wrong routes.

5. Coaching is never good enough. (Parcells, Phillips, and now JG)

6. Running game has never been good enough.

7. Ball was slippery.

8. Team gets too many pre snap penalties.

etc etc etc.

So who/what do you want then???

 

[ayjackson]

Romo's a good QB. There likely isn't a better option out there for next year. Ideally, we'd draft and develop another QB and keep Romo until QB-in-waiting is ready for the fire. I understand that Romo's contract status likely precludes that from happening though.

Given the choice of lucrative extension and a trade, I'd choose a trade. But it would depend on how long/rich the extension is versus how much could be had in trade.

 

[Future]

Aaron Rodgers has NEVER had a good running game or Oline. Especially this year and yet he still succeeds.. why? Because he understands that not everything around him will be perfect and he knows the most important thing every QB should know...PROTECT THE BALL. Romo had enough of a team around him to win the division this year but ROMO choked and gave that game away himself. It's just more of the same with him.

The whole Aaron Rodgers has never had a run game thing is a myth.

The year they went to the Super Bowl, their run game was outstanding late in the year. Just because they don't feature it, doesn't mean that it isn't effective.