Question on Henson's Deep Ball

[JBS]

For those of you who have been following Henson over the past few weeks in NFLE how good has his deep ball been? I have been watching the replay of the Rhein game and I saw his game 2 weeks ago. Most of his passes are very short and intermediate. I have yet to see him chuck it very deep yet. For those of you who have how have those passes been?

 

[Rush 2112]

Week 1-2 it was horrendous.

Now I have no complaints at all.

 

[TheHustler]

He's got no problem throwing a deep ball, he has excellent arm strength,

 

[Clove]

We need a good receiver to properly guage his deep passing attack.

 

[lcharles]

Honestly, I think from what I've seen (and that is limited) the deep ball seems to be his weakness. Not that he can't throw deep, but I have not seen him throw deep accurately.

Then again, his recievers are very low quality and usually get no seperation going deep.

Other than that he looks fine.


If he had TO going deep I could evaluate him better.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I hear he has all the tools......

 

[RCowboyFan]

Honestly, I think from what I've seen (and that is limited) the deep ball seems to be his weakness. Not that he can't throw deep, but I have not seen him throw deep accurately.

Then again, his recievers are very low quality and usually get no seperation going deep.

Other than that he looks fine.


If he had TO going deep I could evaluate him better.

Like someone said above, week 1-2, his Deep ball was his weakness. Its no Longer his weakness. All the Deep balls past three games have mostly been on Money. TO or any NFL caliber reciver would have made most of the Deep ball throws Henson made today or last week etc.

Infact, I think his Deepballs are starting to be a strength again, like it used to at Michigan. But his short - intermediate throws usally are money though.

 

[dbair1967]

Honestly, I think from what I've seen (and that is limited) the deep ball seems to be his weakness. Not that he can't throw deep, but I have not seen him throw deep accurately.

Then again, his recievers are very low quality and usually get no seperation going deep.

Other than that he looks fine.


If he had TO going deep I could evaluate him better.

he threw a perfect one today after eluding the rush, and the guy stonehanded it

David

 

[NYCowboy22]

he threw a perfect one today after eluding the rush, and the guy stonehanded it

David

That one pissed me off. :bang2:

 

[theogt]

I would have to review the games to remember how his deep balls were in weeks 1 and 2. Week 3 was pretty bad though. Week 4 was the opposite in that his deep passes looked great. Still downloading week 5. Hopefully he'll pick up some consistency and continue to look like week 4.

 

[Nerm]

From what I have seen, his deep balls were off target more than you would like. He has been playing well the past few weeks though. He is better under pressure than you would expect from him. His WRs dont get much seperation.

 

[k19]

Only problem I've seen over the past 2 weeks is WR's catching the darn
thing

 

[burmafrd]

He threw a couple of rainbows a couple of weeks ago- but he seems to be doing better. Its a process for a guy that has played very little for so many years.

 

[Rack]

He's got no problem throwing a deep ball, he has excellent arm strength,

The deep ball isn't just about arm strength.


Not saying anything about Henson, good or bad, but arm strength is only part of what makes a good deep ball.

 

[Skip]

Thanks RCowboyFan I respect you judgment! At least I think I do, if you are the same person I think you are from sportsonly since there is a guy with similar name here I am not totally sure.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Better than most of Aikman's long throws used to be. The one yesterday was a thing of beauty. Avoided the rush, stepped up in the pocket and flicked it 50+ yards in the air, right on the guy's hands only to have him drop it.

Don't mean to start something but, why is it Aikman was not very good throwing the deep ball? He hit some of them in his career, but, by in large, as his career went on, he was not very good throwing it way down the field. If you don't remember that you have selective, Aikman memory.

 

[dbair1967]

Don't mean to start something but, why is it Aikman was not very good throwing the deep ball? He hit some of them in his career, but, by in large, as his career went on, he was not very good throwing it way down the field. If you don't remember that you have selective, Aikman memory.

he wasnt great at it, but there are tons of examples of perfectly thrown deep balls from Aikman to Irvin, Harper, Ismail etc etc

and if you dont remember, then it might be you with the selective memory

David

 

[CaptainAmerica]

he wasnt great at it, but there are tons of examples of perfectly thrown deep balls from Aikman to Irvin, Harper, Ismail etc etc

and if you dont remember, then it might be you with the selective memory

David

I said he hit some of them, but if you watched all the games you would remember that he consistently overthrew or threw the long ball out of bounds and didn't give his receiver a chance for it. I'm not harping on Aikman, he clearly was one of the all-time greats and one of my favorite Cowboys. I just always wondered why he struggled with that.

I believe it had something to do with his mechanics. The same perfect mechanics that made his short-medium pases the most accurate throws of perhaps all-time, were the same compact mechanics that didn't allow him to consistently throw the ball accurately when he threw way down field. Just a theory.

I'm not trying to start an argument, David, you just always react that way. Sorry. No offense intended.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Thanks RCowboyFan I respect you judgment! At least I think I do, if you are the same person I think you are from sportsonly since there is a guy with similar name here I am not totally sure.

Yes, Skip, I am the same person It seems like that board has moved from that old site eh? Is that RAT guy still being the typical headache for you?

 

[RCowboyFan]

I said he hit some of them, but if you watched all the games you would remember that he consistently overthrew or threw the long ball out of bounds and didn't give his receiver a chance for it. I'm not harping on Aikman, he clearly was one of the all-time greats and one of my favorite Cowboys. I just always wondered why he struggled with that.

I believe it had something to do with his mechanics. The same perfect mechanics that made his short-medium pases the most accurate throws of perhaps all-time, were the same compact mechanics that didn't allow him to consistently throw the ball accurately when he threw way down field. Just a theory.

I'm not trying to start an argument, David, you just always react that way. Sorry. No offense intended.

I agree here CA, Aikman had some issues with Deep ball, as in his were not accurate as his medium range to short passes, which were extrodinarily good obviously.

I recall, I think he even commented on why that was. You are right about something about his machanics that caused that issue. But he was not bad, but he wasn't as on the money as he used to be on Short to intermidiate routes. If I remember correctly he said, on those short and intermidiate throws he used to see Players's midsection or throw it to his midsection and hence the accuracy.

So I guess on long throws, there was no such target for him, and hence less accuracy in those. Heck I remember commentators commenting on how Jason Garret was such a good Deep thrower.