Questions about Randy Gregory

Oh_Canada · Nov 7, 2016

Joshmvii said:
The only regular season games he'll be eligible for are the Lions and Eagles, weeks 16 and 17.

Probably one "preseason" game for him.

waldoputty · Nov 7, 2016

Oh_Canada said:
Probably one "preseason" game for him.

i just recalled someone said he looked better than anyone else, but lawrence was not playing at that point

KJJ · Nov 7, 2016

I doubt Gregory will be back next season, the Cowboys gambled and lost with him.

KJJ · Nov 7, 2016

Carharris2 said:
He'll be a nice addition for the playoff games.

Does anyone know if he's with the team working out or does he have to stay away??

Missing 14 games along with the games he missed last season will keep him from providing anything in the playoffs. His development has been severely stunted the past 2 seasons. Being suspended 14 games this season keeps him from working with the team. He may not even suit up for a game this season.

T-RO · Nov 7, 2016

GloryDaysRBack said:
Just like anybody else..he's going to have to work himself into game shape..

2 games to prepare for a postseason run and he can be a situational pass rusher

Doesn't mean this is how it will go down..but it's not that far fetched

He has to prove he won't do drugs again. He has multiple violations.
He has to prove he can sack the quarterback. He has 0 career sacks.

Impact this season?
It's possible. But is a bit far fetched, IMO

Nightman · Nov 7, 2016

No reason not to bring him back........he is a sunk cost but cheap going forward....3 years/2m.....we have to activate him after Week 14 or get a waiver or release him

It is possible to work out really hard and to get into game shape without playing a game....he will be 3rd down rusher at best and weight has always been a "not enough" problem

Nightman · Nov 7, 2016

waldoputty said:
i just recalled someone said he looked better than anyone else, but lawrence was not playing at that point

He has to stay clean 2 years to reset his drug policy and get back to zero

He has an uphill battle but he has stayed clean since the preseason at least

When a player is in the program they face up to 10 tests a month....if he fails another test in the next year or so he will face an indefinite suspension like Josh Gordon got, but the Browns still haven't waived him......he doesn't accrue any service time and the team keeps his contract rights but doesn't have to pay

waldoputty · Nov 7, 2016

bkight13 said:
He has to stay clean 2 years to reset his drug policy and get back to zero

He has an uphill battle but he has stayed clean since the preseason at least

When a player is in the program they face up to 10 tests a month....if he fails another test in the next year or so he will face an indefinite suspension like Josh Gordon got, but the Browns still haven't waived him......he doesn't accrue any service time and the team keeps his contract rights but doesn't have to pay

so basically, if he fails, we would know?
would he be allowed to be in the facility if he fails again?
so basically we keep control of his contract and dont have to pay or lose service time if he fails, so no downside.

Nightman · Nov 7, 2016

waldoputty said:
so basically, if he fails, we would know?
would he be allowed to be in the facility if he fails again?
so basically we keep control of his contract and dont have to pay or lose service time if he fails, so no downside.

-Yes we would know(once his appeals were up)
-Yes he is allowed at the facility...the NFL considers its Substance Abuse policy as an Intervention program......they want their players to stay off illegal drugs and they feel being around the team helps.....they can workout and attend meetings but can't practice
-If a player is suspended for PEDs or violating the Player Conduct Policy they are not allowed on the facility or to have contact with any players or coaches...this is punishment not treatment
-If he misses at least 10 games his contract doesn't toll and he doesn't get paid for any suspension

waldoputty · Nov 7, 2016

bkight13 said:
-Yes we would know(once his appeals were up)
-Yes he is allowed at the facility...the NFL considers its Substance Abuse policy as an Intervention program......they want their players to stay off illegal drugs and they feel being around the team helps.....they can workout and attend meetings but can't practice
-If a player is suspended for PEDs or violating the Player Conduct Policy they are not allowed on the facility or to have contact with any players or coaches...this is punishment not treatment
-If he misses at least 10 games his contract doesn't toll and he doesn't get paid for any suspension

good, so since he is at the facility, he has not failed.
given he has apparently behaved for quite a few months, it is reasonable that he continues to behave for another 6 weeks.
now who knows what he has now, though I recall people saying he played well when he was in camp...

Nightman · Nov 7, 2016

waldoputty said:
good, so since he is at the facility, he has not failed.
given he has apparently behaved for quite a few months, it is reasonable that he continues to behave for another 6 weeks.
now who knows what he has now, though I recall people saying he played well when he was in camp...

I don't recall him being in camp....I thought he went to rehab

Zekeats · Nov 7, 2016

JerryJonesMustGo said:
GAMES

waldoputty · Nov 7, 2016

bkight13 said:
I don't recall him being in camp....I thought he went to rehab

you may be right.
i definitely remember gregory was in practice and someone said he looked better than everyone else.
when in the summer, i do not recall.

FuzzyLumpkins · Nov 7, 2016

Seven said:
He won't play this year, IMO.

How can you be in football shape missing 14 games?

He's been working with the trainers for 2 months and by the time he is eligible it will be near 4. Only way you can get ready for the physicality is by actually playing.

58 and 93 have not been productive. That is the baseline he needs to beat.

Nightman · Nov 7, 2016

FuzzyLumpkins said:
He's been working with the trainers for 2 months and by the time he is eligible it will be near 4. Only way you can get ready for the physicality is by actually playing.

58 and 93 have not been productive. That is the baseline he needs to beat.

You don't have to be faster than the bear......just faster than one other person

The Natural · Nov 11, 2016

The Natural said:
Fixed that for you, he's another one that doesnt really want to play football

phildadon86 said:
Why's that? Because he made mistakes due to a mental disorder? Yeah. Shame on him for checking himself into rehab and trying to get his head right.

You guys will learn.

waldoputty · Nov 11, 2016

given the likelihood of the latest failed test, gregory is likely a total-loss.
makes no sense to cut him since he incurs no salary cap or accured time while suspended
i would keep him away from jaylen and the rest of the team since he could be bad influence.

phildadon86 · Nov 11, 2016

The Natural said:
You guys will learn.

What did I learn? That he has an addiction? He tried to get help, it didnt work so its goodbye. You didnt really prove anything except you are extremely judgmental.

LocimusPrime · Nov 11, 2016

Wasn't counting on him anyways. Not counting on tapper or jaylon either. If any of the contribute I see it as a bonus!

Cmac · Nov 11, 2016

JohnsKey19 said:
He and Jaylon Smith work out together at The Star. Per Broaddus...

Run Jaylon run!!!

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