quick draft recap

[Clarkson]

that's exactly what it was

Don't try to tell that to some people on here who know Cason = Jenkins, something our scouts failed to pick up. What clowns.

 

[tomson75]

Maybe we wanted Jones and Jenkins and felt Jenkins > Cason?
That couldn't be, though.

Yeah, I understand that concept. My point was that we didn't have to give up picks to address our needs....but we did.

I'm OK with that. I just think it could have been better.

 

[iceberg]

Could have had him at 22. Then taken a rb at 28. Even if we took Jones at 22, we still may have gotten him at 28....and if not, we could have had Cason...and kept our picks.

That's the only point I'm trying to make.

tennessee would have taken jones. we did what we had to do to get the 2 targeted players. now if someone isn't a fan of those players sure, we totallyi messed up, gosh darn it.

 

[Clarkson]

Look Broseph. You're the one that followed me into this thread and attacked me....and I couldn't care less about "what you've already said about me".

Followed you in, OR..
Read another thread and saw another stupid thing that you said, and explained to you why it was stupid, thus making my feelings hurt in your mind.

With that kind of logic, it makes it easier to see why you think the way you do on the draft.

 

[Clarkson]

Yeah, I understand that concept. My point was that we didn't have to give up picks to address our needs....but we did.

I'm OK with that. I just think it could have been better.

But we obviously wanted Jenkins and not Cason.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yeah, I understand that concept. My point was that we didn't have to give up picks to address our needs....but we did.

I'm OK with that. I just think it could have been better.

a 5th and a 7th

are you serious? to get the #2 CB on their board? 4th by most accounts?

 

[tomson75]

Followed you in, OR..
Read another thread and saw another stupid thing that you said, and explained to you why it was stupid, thus making my feelings hurt in your mind.

With that kind of logic, it makes it easier to see why you think the way you do on the draft.

Gotcha. My opinion is stupid....and you're totally not bothered by me and therefore not following me around responding to anything I say like some *******. You'd never do that.

 

[tomson75]

But we obviously wanted Jenkins and not Cason.

That's fine. Then why not take him at 22 if he's that important. Then take a RB @28?

Look, I'm really not that bothered by this. I just think we could've done a little better. No biggie.

 

[iceberg]

That's fine. Then why not take him at 22 if he's that important. Then take a RB @28?

Look, I'm really not that bothered by this. I just think we could've done a little better. No biggie.

cause tennessee would take jones at 24.

what part of this is really getting that difficult?

 

[tomson75]

a 5th and a 7th

are you serious? to get the #2 CB on their board? 4th by most accounts?

I am serious. We should have taken him at 22, IMO of course.

In general, I love the picks though...except the 2nd rounder.

 

[speedkilz88]

Norm said that the Cowboys originally told the card guy to put down Mike Jenkins and then changed their mind because they realized the only way to get Felix Jones was to take him first and trade up for Jenkins. They gave up a fifth and a seventh and got both picks back and then traded away the other seventh so whats there to complain about?

 

[Vintage]

We didn't force the issue at WR. I am fine with that.

We were getting old at WR, CB, and had a need for RB.

Offensively, at TE, we are young and deep. At RB, we are young and deep. At QB, we've got our star, a veteran backup, and a developmental guy in Bartel.

Defensively, we are young and deep at DL. We are young and deep at LBer. And now at CB, we are deep with a nice blend of youth and experience.

On the OL, we have our starters and some young developmental guys.

Really, heading into next year's draft, our biggest weakness will be youth at WR. And we'll be in a position to move up if we want too. Why force the issue at WR when we can solve other needs at better value? Next year we can then trade up or trade for someone if needed...

And I think the coaching staff thinks Glenn is coming back and thinks Stanback will be ready to contribute...

 

[tomson75]

cause tennessee would take jones at 24.

what part of this is really getting that difficult?

What part of what I'm saying is so difficult. I'm talking about NEEDS, not specific players. I wasn't aware that Jones was the only RB still available at that point.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

cause tennessee would take jones at 24.

what part of this is really getting that difficult?

I forgot about that

that too, tomson

I am serious. We should have taken him at 22, IMO of course.

In general, I love the picks though...except the 2nd rounder.

good, I thought you would be mad since Jerry pretty much put all your pets to sleep

my only real gripe is that I would have probably taken Darrell Robertson of Gtech instead of Walden in the 6th

 

[iceberg]

We didn't force the issue at WR. I am fine with that.

We were getting old at WR, CB, and had a need for RB.

Offensively, at TE, we are young and deep. At RB, we are young and deep. At QB, we've got our star, a veteran backup, and a developmental guy in Bartel.

Defensively, we are young and deep at DL. We are young and deep at LBer. And now at CB, we are deep with a nice blend of youth and experience.

On the OL, we have our starters and some young developmental guys.

Really, heading into next year's draft, our biggest weakness will be youth at WR. And we'll be in a position to move up if we want too. Why force the issue at WR when we can solve other needs at better value? Next year we can then trade up or trade for someone if needed...

And I think the coaching staff thinks Glenn is coming back and thinks Stanback will be ready to contribute...

we took a serious stab at addressing RB and CB and there's only so much "serious stabs" you can take in a draft.

 

[tomson75]

I forgot about that

that too, tomson



good, I thought you would be mad since Jerry pretty much put all your pets to sleep

Yours too.:tongue:

 

[iceberg]

What part of what I'm saying is so difficult. I'm talking about NEEDS, not specific players. I wasn't aware that Jones was the only RB still available at that point.

did you see the run of jones, mendenhall and then johnson?

we got the player we wanted. twice. and you have a problem with that. i can only suppose regardless of what jones did you'd have some form of issue with it.

nothing i can do about that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yours too.:tongue:

touche

but to be fair, I publicly warmed up to Felix right before the draft

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that this draft wasn't about finding starters for next year. From what I recall, all 22 are going to be back next year. I guess, for arguments sake, we can say 21 since JuJo left.

This draft was about creating depth, and we did that. Take a look:

RB starter: MBII Backup(s): Jones and Choice
CB starters: T-New and Henry Backups: Jones, Jenkins and Scandrick
TE starter: Witten Backups: Bennett and Curtis (even though already in place)
OLB starters: Ware and Ellis Backups: Spencer and Walden (more likely ST)

The only place we could've drafted, IMO, that would've been an upgrade might have been at left guard. But, Kosier is a nice player. Not a great player, but is nasty and does the job.

I didn't like that we didn't go after a WR, but I think there's something going on behind the scenes that we don't know. Look at Cincy's draft. They took two WRs in the 2nd and 3rd round. Also, the Cards and Lions each selected receivers, but that might have been a BPA situation.

I don't mind that we traded picks for next year because the likelihood they sniff the field is minimal this year. You always build, or re-stock, for the future. This draft did that.

 

[tomson75]

did you see the run of jones, mendenhall and then johnson?

we got the player we wanted. twice. and you have a problem with that. i can only suppose regardless of what jones did you'd have some form of issue with it.

nothing i can do about that.

No, I don't. I didn't realize we were so keyed in on those two specific players.

I think your overestimating my disappointment here. I'm only mildly upset.

I think we did pretty good...