Quick look at Toia

Looks like he has some hustle but i'd like to see him battle a good OL. Might be a bit harder to maintain leverage on double teams, much easier to do in college than the nfl. If he can get some technique down and these coaches ignore jerry and are willing to put in a guy that will focus on stopping the run one of these new DT's has a chance to make an impact.
 
Look at the offensive line.

LT 1st round pick
LG 1st round pick and new contract coming
C 3rd rounder
RG 1st round pick (+Martin Dead cap hits)
RT UDFA but on decent 2nd contract

To me, while Martin leaving sucks, guard isn't a position you have to draft in the 1st.
This draft had talent at DT, not just at NT either. Could of gotten Harmon, Nolen(who did fall prob due to red flags), or Grant.
All 3 may bust, be average or be great. However, they all had pretty high ceilings, and IMO the general need at DT was much greater than Guard, IMO.

Osa is a good player, but to me, he wasn't someone that is a cornerstone of the team. Dallas has always rotated heavily, so even if they took someone like Harmon, that would of been a 3 tech here, he still would of been rotated in and/or play along side Osa on passing formations(which is becoming more frequent.

Say, Toia turns out to be solid/good. Nice, however, getting hits in day 3 is rare. Sometimes players fall off the radar or just develop unexpectedly to scouts. But there's that prevailing thought of there's a reason why they fell where they did.

The hype train is rolling for these 7th round picks. Rather see hype than hate, but at the same time, I just hope people aren't counting their eggs before they hatch. The 7th is used to secure player rights instead of fighting for them in UDFA. Every player can have a highlight tape, doesn't mean that's what we'll get. Run pluggers for the most part are extinct unless they can actually move. The zone blocking scheme wiped them out.
If they can't move laterally, then, they can be easily taken out.
For every big 6'3-330lb+ guy, most don't amount to much, cause if they are a one trick pony which is being a plugger they are extremely niche in today's NFL.
Well said. I think this UCLA guy will stick for a handful of years.
But he is a long shot 7th rounder
 
Toia will be better than Mazi. Mazi was good at underwear olympics but his athleticism doesn't translate at all and he's a poor football player.
Toia is a high motor guy with a very good anchor that plays with a mean streak. He's not going to be a big stats guy but he'll eat up doubles and make some plays here and there.

IMO you can never have too many Polynesians. The culture puts so much emphasis on protecting the family name guys generally work their ***** off.
Said the same of Rodgers last season. A 7 is a 7. That said I think Toia will help.
 
Yeah that is completely wrong way to look at it.
It’s not at all. People need to stop being sucked by the marketing department. Guy is a 7th rounder. Why not wait and see and stop setting the expectations so high?

After 30 years you would think your relentless homerism would tamp down a bit.
 
It’s not at all. People need to stop being sucked by the marketing department. Guy is a 7th rounder. Why not wait and see and stop setting the expectations so high?

After 30 years you would think your relentless homerism would tamp down a bit.
Weird, because bdc understands full well the current QB and past HC team deficiency and posts accordingly.
But then goes full over the top homer optimist at all other aspects of the roster.
I admit, a little hard to figure out.

Cowboys!
 
It’s not at all. People need to stop being sucked by the marketing department. Guy is a 7th rounder.
You can't judge players strictly off of what rounds they were drafted.

You said "So Mazi was a 1 and he sucks but Toia was a 7 and he is going to fix our DT problem?" and there are 2 problems with that. 1) Toia could outperform and be a better pro than Mazi. 2) No one said Toia is going to fix our DT problem.
 
It’s not at all. People need to stop being sucked by the marketing department. Guy is a 7th rounder. Why not wait and see and stop setting the expectations so high?
People do this for the same reason they like to gamble. The odds of instantly winning big on a long shot.
 
He was voted team MVP at a post season banquet. 2923-2024 UCLA allowed less than 95 yards per game rushing with average of 2.3 yards per carry. Jays ability to demand 2 players blocking him due to his quick get off, size, strength and awareness was a large part of that, he kept the LB clean.

Big hopes for big fella, DT is slowest to develop but by year 2 he could be giving you significant snaps. In 7th round you're drafting traits, he has them in spades.
A futuristic pick too?!?!
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All I ask of him is to anchor the middle; be a big barrier to runs between the tackles; anything up the middle. That is something we have not really had for like 15 years. IF he can hold his ground, stand up the OL and protect our LBs in the middle, that would be huge. THAT he can do as a rookie.
From what I've seen, he holds his ground most of the time double and tripled teamed. If that equates to his future play, Osi and friends might be able to feast.

Long way from that though.
 
This pick is exactly why I don't understand why fans were pushing for DT with 12, especially after we signed Osa. It appears Mazi has the other job locked down. We needed a run plugger with two jobs: stop the run and keep LBers clean. So this is my fav pick behind Booker ..........
He’s the type of player we needed. A DT at 12 has to be a dual threat. Stop the run and rush the passer. That is too high for a guy who only stops the run. That’s why I didn’t want Mazi. I thought he would be a nice run stuffer as big and athletic as he was but he showed no pass rush skills. So far he hasn’t been a great run stuffer either but even if he was that’s not a guy I spend a high pick on
 

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