Quick look at Toia

[big dog cowboy]

We needed a pick like this following the 2016 season.

Pick any year!

 

[Pola_pe_a]

While that's not "saying a ton", that still doesnt make it definite he will be better. Let's see the 7th round pick play a few downs of even NFL preseason football first.

Of course it’s not a sure thing, it’s a prediction based in what I’ve seen of Mazi’s play and how I project Toia. I also like Polynesian players, their culture lends itself to producing very successful NFL players for various reasons.

 

[AyeAtey]

Ah the months leading to the regular season. The hype, expectations, hope, optimism.

New coaches, draft picks, finally a rb?, #2 wr, OL shaping up, help on D and more.

Go Boys.

 

[conner01]

That's right. He may be better at the run in this system too.

He could be. He had some injuries early on but he has talent. We have some guys on the defensive front who can get after the QB. And in this scheme it seems the LB is really the key to stopping the run. We have some young, athletic LB on the roster. If they can be solid at reading the play and being in the right hole we could be better on run defense. But the biggest thing that’s gonna help our run defense is offense. Score enough and teams won’t be running as much. Get a lead and pass rush gets better. Fix our redzone offense is really important

 

[Pass2Run]

He could be. He had some injuries early on but he has talent. We have some guys on the defensive front who can get after the QB. And in this scheme it seems the LB is really the key to stopping the run. We have some young, athletic LB on the roster. If they can be solid at reading the play and being in the right hole we could be better on run defense. But the biggest thing that’s gonna help our run defense is offense. Score enough and teams won’t be running as much. Get a lead and pass rush gets better. Fix our redzone offense is really important

The defensive ends, LBs and DTs all play a role in stopping the run. They all work together to sort of create chaos along the line and clog the lanes... line backers stunt or clean up.

I actually like how Eberflus approaches stopping the run. Very cool scheme. It's biggest downfall is sometimes giving up leads later in the game. But we should also have an improved offense as well.

Eberflus doesn't rely on DTs as much as previous Dallas coaches to stop the run.

 

[Pass2Run]

He could be. He had some injuries early on but he has talent. We have some guys on the defensive front who can get after the QB. And in this scheme it seems the LB is really the key to stopping the run. We have some young, athletic LB on the roster. If they can be solid at reading the play and being in the right hole we could be better on run defense. But the biggest thing that’s gonna help our run defense is offense. Score enough and teams won’t be running as much. Get a lead and pass rush gets better. Fix our redzone offense is really important

Just wanted to add this if you haven't seen it.

 

[conner01]

Just wanted to add this if you haven't seen it.

Thanks. Our guys are quick guys show slanting them could really fit their game.

 

[conner01]

The defensive ends, LBs and DTs all play a role in stopping the run. They all work together to sort of create chaos along the line and clog the lanes... line backers stunt or clean up.

I actually like how Eberflus approaches stopping the run. Very cool scheme. It's biggest downfall is sometimes giving up leads later in the game. But we should also have an improved offense as well.

Eberflus doesn't rely on DTs as much as previous Dallas coaches to stop the run.

Giving up leads late may have as much to do with the offense they had as the D. Offense has to control the clock and keep pushing the ball down the field. One thing about this team is you only need to get close to mid field to add the those late game leads because 60 yd FG is very doable

 

[stilltheguru]

Of course it’s not a sure thing, it’s a prediction based in what I’ve seen of Mazi’s play and how I project Toia. I also like Polynesian players, their culture lends itself to producing very successful NFL players for various reasons.

Dallas doesn't have luck with them. Anae, Simi fehoko, villami fehoko. I wouldn't say they have some type of positive hit rate just because of a few guys

 

[kskboys]

Dallas doesn't have luck with them. Anae, Simi fehoko, villami fehoko. I wouldn't say they have some type of positive hit rate just because of a few guys

That's because we are terrible at analyzing players and how their skillset will fit in the NFL.

 

[stilltheguru]

That's because we are terrible at analyzing players and how their skillset will fit in the NFL.

We do but my point was I dint think polys have a high hit rate like that poster was stating. We did seem to hit with liafau though. Forgot about him

 

[kskboys]

We do but my point was I dint think polys have a high hit rate like that poster was stating. We did seem to hit with liafau though. Forgot about him

They seem to be able to stay healthy. I think it goes to simple genetics.

 

[Pola_pe_a]

We do but my point was I dint think polys have a high hit rate like that poster was stating. We did seem to hit with liafau though. Forgot about him

All college player hit rates are low in the NFL that’s why the average career is 3 years long.
Two equally graded guys coming out of college and one is Polynesian, give me that guy. There’s burden those guys carry to uphold their family name.

Polynesians make up .5% of the US population but 5% of NFL rosters.

 

[Pola_pe_a]

They seem to be able to stay healthy. I think it goes to simple genetics.

Genetics helps but there’s really more to it. Lived in Hawaii and was close with several Samoan guys that constantly talked about how letting down your family name is the worst thing you can do. There is also a deep respect ingrained for elders which translates into being a good teammate and student of the game.

 

[Risen Star]

He reminds me of Haloti Ngata.

 

[Cowboyny]

He does, but he's an average run defender, and that is my issue with bringing him back, especially for $20M. Hell, I think you and many others preferred 3T at 12 over Booker, one who could rush the passer AND defend the run at a high level. So you were getting a cheaper player who could do both. Unless we are underestimating Osa's strength as a run defender.

I'm sure McClay and the Cowboy coaches knew exactly what the draft offered before signing Osa, but they did it anyway.

The 3T in this scheme is the most important position. They could have drafted one early, but there is usually a steep learning curve at the position.

This scheme isn’t about 2 gapping, read and react, it’s all about flying off the snap and getting up the field quickly to disrupt the play. OSA does this well, it’s up to the rest off the unit to do their own jobs

 

[gtb1943]

The defensive ends, LBs and DTs all play a role in stopping the run. They all work together to sort of create chaos along the line and clog the lanes... line backers stunt or clean up.

I actually like how Eberflus approaches stopping the run. Very cool scheme. It's biggest downfall is sometimes giving up leads later in the game. But we should also have an improved offense as well.

Eberflus doesn't rely on DTs as much as previous Dallas coaches to stop the run.

got news for you
if your DTs are weak against the run there is nothing the rest of the unit is going to be able to do about it without exposing something more

 

[boysfanindc]

I could be wrong but there is something to this kid.