Quinn says he’s worth No. 1 pick

Concord

Mr. Buckeye
Messages
12,825
Reaction score
119
Quinn not conceding top pick to Russell

070223_quinn_vsmall6p.vsmall.jpg



'I’m the most prepared collegiate player in the draft,' Irish QB claims


INDIANAPOLIS - Brady Quinn isn’t ready to admit defeat in the race to be the top pick in the NFL draft.

Seven weeks since JaMarcus Russell shot up the draft chart after beating Quinn in the Sugar Bowl, Quinn delivered his first major rebuttal in the competition to be selected first overall in April.

“I’d tell them I’m the most prepared collegiate player in the draft,” Quinn said Friday at the annual NFL scouting combine. “There’s not one other player in college that’s had the coaching I’ve had in the last two years, and I feel I’m the best leader.”

Now it’s up to the NFL scouts and coaches to make their judgments.

Like great draft debates of the past — Drew Bledsoe or Rick Mirer, Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf, Eli Manning or Philip Rivers, Vince Young or Matt Leinart — this one could be risky.

Russell offers a rare blend of size, mobility and strength. He measured-in Friday at 6-foot-6, 265 pounds — nine pounds heavier than his playing weight.

Russell says he can throw a football 83 or 84 yards, but it wasn’t until he led LSU to a 41-14 victory over Quinn and Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl that he gained national prominence. Less than a week after the game, when Russell heard he was projected as a first-round pick, he announced he was leaving school early.

“I’d been through a few games that went well and we found a way to pull them out,” Russell said. “Sometimes you get the recognition, sometimes you don’t. But that bowl game really helped.”

Even though this draft class contains other talented quarterbacks such as Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith from Ohio State and Chris Leak, who led Florida to the national championship, most considered Quinn the best.

That changed after Quinn injured his knee against Southern Cal and aggravated it in the Sugar Bowl. Doctors advised him to sit out the Senior Bowl, and Russell soon moved ahead in the rankings.

With Oakland holding the top pick, and Al Davis’ philosophy of throwing deep, Russell seemed like the odds-on favorite to go first. They even cleared a spot Thursday by letting Aaron Brooks go.

Quinn says not so fast.

Like Russell, Quinn won’t work out in Indianapolis. He was measured at 6-3, 232 pounds and has scheduled two pro days at Notre Dame — March 4 and March 22 — in an attempt to reclaim top-pick status.


“I had three goals coming into the season,” Quinn said. “I wanted to win a national championship, win the Heisman and be the No. 1 pick in the draft. The first two didn’t work out so well. The third we’ll have to see.”

Quinn has several advantages. Playing in Charlie Weis’ pro-style offense may make for a smoother transition from college to the NFL. Weis also has a reputation for turning quarterbacks into stars. His prized pupil is three-time Super Bowl winner Tom Brady of New England.

Quinn, who threw for 93 touchdowns and more than 11,500 yards, cannot be pegged as a system quarterback since he also played in Tyrone Willingham’s West Coast offense, another staple in the NFL.

And with the exposure Notre Dame typically receives on any given week, Quinn has proven he can handle pressure similar to what an NFL quarterback faces.

Russell, however, is believed to have more potential. He threw for more than 6,000 yards at LSU, where he was 25-4 as a starter, and many around the league think he’s still improving.

It’s a quandary teams seem to face each year.

Not surprisingly, college teammates of Quinn and Russell at the combine take opposing views.

“I definitely believe he (Quinn) is the quarterback in the draft by far,” said running back Darius Walker, who played at Notre Dame. “Nobody has the ability he has to read defenses and the experience in the system that he’s played under.”

Wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, who played with Russell at LSU, counters: “He’s ready to get things rolling and make an impact on any team he’s going to.”

Ultimately, the decision rests with the team’s decision-makers.

Cleveland general manager Phil Savage, who has known Russell since he was in the seventh grade, likes Russell’s skills, but maybe not enough to trade up from the No. 3 spot to pick him.

“He is coming out as a junior, which would lead you to believe there might be some upside, and he’s played in a pro-style system,” Savage said.

But Quinn remains confident he can win this debate.

“It’s hard to slip when you haven’t done anything,” he said. “I’ve been thinking ’Did someone see me miss a rep in the weight room or something?’

“We worked out in Tempe, Arizona, together and, obviously we played against each other in the bowl game. There’s a competitiveness there, but you can’t control what a team does. You can only put yourself in the best possible position to succeed, and that’s what I intend to do.”

© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 

JPM

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,301
Reaction score
1,236
He's gonna have to light it up at his Pro Day.
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
ConcordCowboy;1389473 said:
“I definitely believe he (Quinn) is the quarterback in the draft by far,” said running back Darius Walker, who played at Notre Dame. “Nobody has the ability he has to read defenses and the experience in the system that he’s played under.”
That is exactly why I think he's the number 1 pick.
 

Hostile

The Duke
Messages
119,565
Reaction score
4,544
baj1dallas;1389562 said:
It doesn't stop him from making bad decisions and bad throws.
Every QB who has ever played has made bad decisions and bad throws.

Sorry for the reality check.
 

jay cee

Active Member
Messages
2,906
Reaction score
3
IMO, any team that passed on Matt Leinart last year and uses a high number one on either of these guys is only compounding their mistake.

If I'm Oakland, I would just take Calvin Johnson or trade down if possible.
 

Seven

Messenger to the football Gods
Messages
19,301
Reaction score
9,892
baj1dallas;1389562 said:
It doesn't stop him from making bad decisions and bad throws.



Yeah, no decent QB EVER does that........:rolleyes:
 

the kid 05

Individuals play the game, but teams beat the odds
Messages
9,543
Reaction score
3
jay cee;1389574 said:
IMO, any team that passed on Matt Leinart last year and uses a high number one on either of these guys is only compounding their mistake.

If I'm Oakland, I would just take Calvin Johnson or trade down if possible.

while i didn't like him (leinart) in college i have to agree with you the teams that passed him up sure shot them selfs in the foot, minus of course the Titans
 

big dog cowboy

THE BIG DOG
Staff member
Messages
101,897
Reaction score
112,885
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
jay cee;1389574 said:
IMO, any team that passed on Matt Leinart last year and uses a high number one on either of these guys is only compounding their mistake.

If I'm Oakland, I would just take Calvin Johnson or trade down if possible.
Oakland had their chance at both Leinart and Cutler and went for a safety instead. I thought that was a mistake on their part. Unless they think Walter is the answer (I don't) they better not pass on a QB again this year. With Davis calling the shots, who knows what they will do.
 

Timbo2st

Benched
Messages
1,091
Reaction score
0
ThreeSportStar80;1389668 said:
Number 1? Quinn better hope to remain in the top 10..

What are you talking about?

I guarantee he becomes the #1 pick.
 
Messages
27,093
Reaction score
0
Timbo2st;1389675 said:
What are you talking about?

I guarantee he becomes the #1 pick.

Stop making a fool of yourself on a Cowboys website son, Quinn will be lucky if he stays in the top 10, I'll say it again. Stop putting on those Notre Dame blinders kid, Quinn isn't that good of QB to begin with, this is a pretty weak QB class.
 

speedkilz88

Well-Known Member
Messages
36,952
Reaction score
23,100
Hostile;1389563 said:
Every QB who has ever played has made bad decisions and bad throws.

Sorry for the reality check.
But he did seem to make a lot more bad decisions and bad throws than a #1 overall pick should make.

Now he makes these brash complaints, I also heard him on espn complaining about the agility drills. He said that qbs only need to run north and south.

Thats just a stupid statement, qbs that can buy time in the pocket are the ones with some agility, the ones who can only run north and south are guys like Bledsoe who are DLs dreams.

He needs to just suck it up, shut up, and work his butt off and show the teams he is a leader instead of talking about being a leader.
 

jay cee

Active Member
Messages
2,906
Reaction score
3
big dog cowboy;1389660 said:
Oakland had their chance at both Leinart and Cutler and went for a safety instead. I thought that was a mistake on their part. Unless they think Walter is the answer (I don't) they better not pass on a QB again this year. With Davis calling the shots, who knows what they will do.

I don't think either of these guys will be a franchise qb. Taking one of these guys with the number one pick will be like taking a David Carr, a possible good player, but not one to build a franchise around.

I must add, that I had never seen Cutler play, so I had no idea about him. But IMO, Leinart was truly a special passer. If Vince Young had not been so incredible in that championship game, USC would have won and Leinart would have been MVP.

I'd bet my last dollar if USC had won, Leinart would not have fallen that far. I'm telling you these football people can be sheep just like everyone else.
 

the kid 05

Individuals play the game, but teams beat the odds
Messages
9,543
Reaction score
3
jay cee;1389713 said:
I don't think either of these guys will be a franchise qb. Taking one of these guys with the number one pick will be like taking a David Carr, a possible good player, but not one to build a franchise around.

I must add, that I had never seen Cutler play, so I had no idea about him. But IMO, Leinart was truly a special passer. If Vince Young had not been so incredible in that championship game, USC would have won and Leinart would have been MVP.

I'd bet my last dollar if USC had won, Leinart would not have fallen that far.
I'm telling you these football people can be sheep just like everyone else.

i thought he dropped because many thought he lacked arm strength?
 

jay cee

Active Member
Messages
2,906
Reaction score
3
the kid 05;1389715 said:
i thought he dropped because many thought he lacked arm strength?

I know that was what the rap on him. I just don't think it would have affected him as much if USC wins that game. Because he would have had the hype on him as the MVP of the Rose Bowl.

And he did have a really strong game against a great Texas defense. I could see someone taking Young and Bush ahead of him, but IMO no one else. Leinart, Young and Bush were the only players that I really thought were special going into last years draft.
 

theogt

Surrealist
Messages
45,846
Reaction score
5,912
Hostile;1389550 said:
That is exactly why I think he's the number 1 pick.
Quinn's kinda slow at reading defenses. He reminds me of David Carr in his inability to make a good decision quickly.
 

Muhast

Newo
Messages
7,661
Reaction score
368
Apparently all the Quinn haters only watched Russel a few times, when he was injured against (tennessee i believe) everyone on the LSU sideline seemed thrilled to see the backup play. Actually in quite a few games Russell seemed to not keep the offense moving at all.

I've watched both the last two years, and from an unbiased stance I think taking Russell over Quinn is a huge mistake.
 
Top