Quinn says he’s worth No. 1 pick

theogt

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Muhast;1389735 said:
Apparently all the Quinn haters only watched Russel a few times, when he was injured against (tennessee i believe) everyone on the LSU sideline seemed thrilled to see the backup play. Actually in quite a few games Russell seemed to not keep the offense moving at all.

I've watched both the last two years, and from an unbiased stance I think taking Russell over Quinn is a huge mistake.
I've watched them both over 2 years and I don't have ties to either university. I don't think either is a sure thing, but I think Russell is a better QB at this point than Quinn, but I think Quinn is closer to his potential than Russell. In other words, Russell is better right now, and he has greater upside.
 

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Well upside is nice... but a lot of players in the past have had more upside than other guys and never lived up to it. When drafting I usually just tend to prefer whoever is most ready to play in the pro's asap. Football is a what have u done for me lately type game, and while it's nice to get Romo's and Brady's.. Guys that were afterthoughts, the general concept seems to be whoever can play better ball is the guy I want. I want the better player, not the guy with the most potential, i mean Clarett had tons of potential, as did Leaf and Couch, and A.Smith etc.

But with that said, the argument could be made either way.

I personally would take Quinn, he kinda reminds me of a Brett Favre ( scramble if i must, take risk if i have to, etc type guy as he showed when they played USC with a long run, and some gutsy throws against mich state) over a Russell who is obviously easily comparable to Culpepper( large size, big arm, quick for his size).

But hey, i'm not an nfl scout so it doesnt matter really what I think. Just wanted to add my two cents :)
 

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Muhast;1389742 said:
Well upside is nice... but a lot of players in the past have had more upside than other guys and never lived up to it. When drafting I usually just tend to prefer whoever is most ready to play in the pro's asap. Football is a what have u done for me lately type game, and while it's nice to get Romo's and Brady's.. Guys that were afterthoughts, the general concept seems to be whoever can play better ball is the guy I want. I want the better player, not the guy with the most potential, i mean Clarett had tons of potential, as did Leaf and Couch, and A.Smith etc.

But with that said, the argument could be made either way.

I personally would take Quinn, he kinda reminds me of a Brett Favre ( scramble if i must, take risk if i have to, etc type guy as he showed when they played USC with a long run, and some gutsy throws against mich state) over a Russell who is obviously easily comparable to Culpepper( large size, big arm, quick for his size).

But hey, i'm not an nfl scout so it doesnt matter really what I think. Just wanted to add my two cents :)
Well, like I said -- I think Russell is the better play now and has more upside. Just my opinion, of course.
 

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Interesting how the Irish haters are all over BQ for not throwing at the combine but say nothing about Russell doing the same.
 

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I've just never thought of Russell being as good as Quinn, I don't know why I guess it's just one of those things. Russell has talent I just don't get the feeling he is going to be a great NFL QB. I'm not a scout and I don't pretend to be but I think Quinn looks more like what a team will want in a QB.
 

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burmafrd;1389780 said:
Interesting how the Irish haters are all over BQ for not throwing at the combine but say nothing about Russell doing the same.
No I'm not. In fact I've defended Quinn as the more logical 1st choice to make.
 

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Hostile;1389798 said:
No I'm not. In fact I've defended Quinn as the more logical 1st choice to make.

See there was your mistake, you tried using logic, you should know better. shame.
 

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Quinn should be eons better than Russell after spending two yrs with Charlie Weis...the fact that its up for legit debate should tell people something

I say this after really believing after his JR yr that Quinn would be a true blue chipper...I really thought with another yr of working with Weis he'd be far and away the top player in this draft...but something seemed wrong with him since the first game of the season agaisnt GT...he wasnt always accurate...he didnt seem to have good arm strength and he did make alot of bad decisions...he definitely did not look good against the better teams...he totally regressed as a player...unless he was playing through some throwing arm injury none of us knew about, I'd be real worrried about taking him early in the draft

David
 

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If I'm Quinn, I'd hope the Raiders pass up on me. The flavor of the day in Oak-town is another team's latest cast off. No real incentive to go there.
 

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the DoNkEy PuNcH;1389898 said:
If I'm Quinn, I'd hope the Raiders pass up on me. The flavor of the day in Oak-town is another team's latest cast off. No real incentive to go there.

I'd pull a Manning faster than you could say, "Hello, Brady? This is Al..........."
 

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I knew the insane one would have to post here. I keep telling him he needs to see a professional but he won't listen. That kind of unreasoning hatred sooner or later will eat the person alive.
 
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