Quit Buying Into the Giants Hype

[Maikeru-sama]

Guys I am seeing threads where you guys are saying how good the Giants are . Who have they played????? San Diego and they got beat 45-24. So please quit judging this team because they beat the sucky Cardinals, the overhyped Saints, and the weak OL DL Rams.

Trust me, that was a waaaaay different San Diego team then we faced. Right after San Diego's second game (I forget who it was against), LT complained that he was not getting the ball enough and all of the sudden, they started feeding him the rock and they started winning.

Oh, dont forget the Giants swept us last year with alot of the same people and Eli Manning got his first win of his career against us.

He is definately playing and making progress like everyone thought he would.

- Mike G.

 

[Hoov]

Manning looked good in the games i have watched. the giants dont dominate on defense, but they can score and if you dont execute against them or your offense has an off day they will beat you. they got whipped by SD, so did NE. SD playing good ball right now. I dont think the giants will get blown out much this year. they have a solid enough team to stay in games and take advantage if teams dont bring their A game, i was suprised that their passing game is doing so well this early in the season. thought manning would need more time, but apparently not.

 

[ravidubey]

Stop deluding yourself into thinking the Giants are going to be anything but very good. Manning and Burress were top ten picks, Shockey and Tiki are pro bowlers and Toomer is as good a #2 WR as there is. Their size advantage causes major matchup problems, they are the NFL's highest scoring team (by far), and they can grind it out when they have to-- you can ask for little more from an offense. Defensively they range from average to good.

The NFC East is headed where everyone thought it would once Tom Coughlin and Joe Gibbs joined the division. Since week 2 not one team in the division has had a losing record.

 

[ravidubey]

Trust me, that was a waaaaay different San Diego team then we faced. Right after San Diego's second game (I forget who it was against), LT complained that he was not getting the ball enough and all of the sudden, they started feeding him the rock and they started winning.

Oh, dont forget the Giants swept us last year with alot of the same people and Eli Manning got his first win of his career against us.

He is definately playing and making progress like everyone thought he would.

- Mike G.

We contained LT and our incompetance at FS enticed SD into passing too much. But we did contain LT. Our problem comes with stopping average running backs-- the great ones we lock down easily enough .

 

[vicjagger]

...I am not going to compare teams based off common competition....

Note about the Giants. 14/16 games are identical to the Cowboys' schedule. Same teams in the same stadiums (i.e. @ San Diego, SF, Oakland & Seattle). Washington and Philly are also the same as each other, for 14/16, but the inverse of the Cowboys/Giants (they get all of west coast teams at home). At the end of the season the respective records against common opponents, for these paired teams, will be a very good indicator of comparitive quality, in addition to the head-to-head.

The non-common opponents are Minnesota and New Orleans (the extra home game for the Giants) & Detroit and @ Carolina (Dallas).

Philly gets Green Bay and @ Atlanta, while Washington hosts the Bears and goes to Tampax Bay.

 

[Asklesko]

Why do you insist on denying the truth? The Giants are lightyears ahead of the Cowboys.

 

[DBoys]

They also give up A LOT of points. They (along with the Skins) will fade.

Totally agree

 

[DBoys]

Trust me, that was a waaaaay different San Diego team then we faced. Right after San Diego's second game (I forget who it was against), LT complained that he was not getting the ball enough and all of the sudden, they started feeding him the rock and they started winning.

Oh, dont forget the Giants swept us last year with alot of the same people and Eli Manning got his first win of his career against us.

He is definately playing and making progress like everyone thought he would.

- Mike G.

They tried to use LT a lot in the first halk and we stopped him that is the only reason his number did not get called in the second. The Dallas D made that happen and it had nothing to do with getting LT the ball.

 

[te0002]

It's really hard to believe anyone thinks the Cowboys are better than any team in the division. Do they have better talent/depth? Probably so, but talent has to play to its potential nad be placed in a position to do so by coaching/schemes.

So far neither of these things have come together on a consistent basis and until they do, the Cowboys are not going to be better than any team in the division - regardless of 'hype.'

 

[DBoys]

Why do you insist on denying the truth? The Giants are lightyears ahead of the Cowboys.

Your high on Kool-Aid again

 

[kartr]

Guys I am seeing threads where you guys are saying how good the Giants are . Who have they played????? San Diego and they got beat 45-24. So please quit judging this team because they beat the sucky Cardinals, the overhyped Saints, and the weak OL DL Rams.

What you're missing is that they actually dominated someone? Who have we dominated on the scoreboard.?

 

[kartr]

What does Dallas have to do with this post? I am talking about the Giants not the Cowboys. Now way the Giants are better than us.

The Giants have a running game, a qb who is only going to get better and a consistent pass rush and they score more than 13 points every week. Are you sure they're not better than us?

 

[DBoys]

What you're missing is that they actually dominated someone? Who have we dominated on the scoreboard.?

That was my point in the first post they dominated some teams granted but how good are the teams they have played? They have also played 3 home games while we have played 3 away games.

 

[Qwickdraw]

Guys I am seeing threads where you guys are saying how good the Giants are . Who have they played????? San Diego and they got beat 45-24. So please quit judging this team because they beat the sucky Cardinals, the overhyped Saints, and the weak OL DL Rams.

I agree.

The GiAints and their fans are in for a rude awakening.

 

[DBoys]

The Giants have a running game, a qb who is only going to get better and a consistent pass rush and they score more than 13 points every week. Are you sure they're not better than us?

Well lets look to the stats shall we?

OFFENSE
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Total Offense - Total Yards/Game
Team G Plys Yds/G Y/P FD/G 3rd Md 3rd Att 3rd % 4th Md 4th Att 4th % Pen PenYds TOP TF L
Philadelphia 4 269 432.0 6.4 24.8 20 47 42.6 0 1 0 26 200 31:17 9 5
Seattle 4 256 387.8 6.1 23.5 19 46 41.3 1 1 100.0 26 217 29:49 5 4
Cincinnati 4 266 384.8 5.8 21.2 16 49 32.7 1 2 50.0 45 349 34:39 6 2
St. Louis 4 275 384.5 5.6 22.8 20 52 38.5 6 6 100.0 33 256 31:52 8 5
Pittsburgh 3 161 360.3 6.7 16.7 12 34 35.3 1 2 50.0 13 102 28:11 1 1
Arizona 4 286 356.5 5.0 19.2 23 64 35.9 0 1 0 34 233 32:48 8 5
San Diego 4 234 355.0 6.1 21.2 23 46 50.0 2 3 66.7 29 204 30:37 2 2
New York (N) 4 235 353.0 6.0 19.0 22 50 44.0 1 2 50.0 39 311 27:34 4 2
Dallas 4 261 349.5 5.4 19.8 26 56 46.4 1 5 20.0 27 186 31:32 8 2

DEFENSE
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Total Defense - Total Yards/Game
Team G Plys Yds/G Y/P FD/G 3rd Md 3rd Att 3rd % 4th Md 4th Att 4th % Pen PenYds TOP TF L
Tampa Bay 4 206 220.2 4.3 12.2 14 47 29.8 2 4 50.0 28 210 26:10 6 4
Baltimore 3 177 260.7 4.4 14.3 13 43 30.2 0 2 0 17 131 27:25 1 1
Jacksonville 4 248 266.0 4.3 18.5 18 52 34.6 2 2 100.0 22 148 28:48 6 4
Chicago 3 189 267.0 4.2 14.3 13 44 29.5 1 4 25.0 17 152 30:44 6 3
Washington 3 176 290.3 4.9 15.3 19 42 45.2 1 2 50.0 23 230 27:10 7 1
Denver 4 235 291.2 5.0 16.8 19 51 37.3 4 6 66.7 46 348 27:45 8 6
Buffalo 4 243 293.5 4.8 19.2 24 51 47.1 1 1 100.0 30 238 31:32 3 3
Miami 3 200 294.0 4.4 20.7 13 40 32.5 1 4 25.0 16 152 31:18 8 3
Philadelphia 4 239 294.8 4.9 15.8 15 51 29.4 1 1 100.0 28 237 28:44 7 4
Cincinnati 4 237 296.5 5.0 17.8 17 48 35.4 2 7 28.6 30 283 25:21 10 5
Arizona 4 225 296.8 5.3 16.8 17 47 36.2 0 1 0 22 159 27:12 6 3
New York (A) 4 263 297.8 4.5 17.8 23 58 39.7 3 3 100.0 26 218 32:27 8 3
Atlanta 4 249 299.5 4.8 19.2 14 48 29.2 3 5 60.0 32 253 30:14 8 5
Seattle 4 254 300.8 4.7 18.2 22 55 40.0 1 2 50.0 23 136 30:11 4 1
Detroit 3 190 301.7 4.8 16.0 20 47 42.6 1 3 33.3 27 195 31:57 5 2
Green Bay 4 244 306.0 5.0 18.2 22 53 41.5 0 1 0 26 256 29:49 6 1
New Orleans 4 232 308.8 5.3 17.2 23 53 43.4 0 1 0 40 309 29:21 8 4
Carolina 4 250 311.5 5.0 18.2 25 54 46.3 0 1 0 42 384 29:19 6 5
Pittsburgh 3 186 316.7 5.1 18.7 19 39 48.7 0 1 0 24 225 31:49 8 5
Indianapolis 4 251 320.0 5.1 16.5 25 60 41.7 5 5 100.0 31 243 31:41 10 1
New England 4 245 322.0 5.3 19.0 19 52 36.5 0 0 0 34 279 30:14 3 2
Tennessee 4 218 332.5 6.1 18.5 18 43 41.9 1 1 100.0 25 185 27:41 6 4
San Diego 4 248 340.0 5.5 21.2 25 53 47.2 2 2 100.0 29 236 29:23 9 3
Dallas 4 244 340.0 5.6 17.0 21 53 39.6 4 5 80.0 41 294 28:28 3 2
St. Louis 4 234 346.8 5.9 18.0 13 44 29.5 1 3 33.3 35 272 28:08 6 4
Houston 3 180 358.3 6.0 20.0 11 35 31.4 2 3 66.7 29 228 33:58 1 0
Kansas City 4 247 367.8 6.0 21.0 17 47 36.2 2 5 40.0 22 219 29:30 15 5
Oakland 4 268 371.0 5.5 20.2 24 61 39.3 2 4 50.0 31 229 31:56 2 2
Minnesota 4 260 378.2 5.8 18.8 26 60 43.3 1 3 33.3 52 363 30:55 5 2
Cleveland 3 199 403.7 6.1 24.3 16 32 50.0 0 1 0 14 96 33:41 5 1
New York (N) 4 285 425.2 6.0 23.8 28 56 50.0 2 3 66.7 41 298 32:27 7 6

Giants are so much better than the Cowboys

 

[jimmy40]

Guys I am seeing threads where you guys are saying how good the Giants are . Who have they played????? San Diego and they got beat 45-24. So please quit judging this team because they beat the sucky Cardinals, the overhyped Saints, and the weak OL DL Rams.

So where are all of the "Burress is overated" guys now?

 

[BledsoetoWittenfortheTD]

Guys I am seeing threads where you guys are saying how good the Giants are . Who have they played????? San Diego and they got beat 45-24. So please quit judging this team because they beat the sucky Cardinals, the overhyped Saints, and the weak OL DL Rams.

They aren't for real, and i'm not sold on little Eli just yet either. But we can't take them lightly, after all they swept us last year. I expect them to fold down the stretch, they will be no better than .500

 

[Givincer]

Stop deluding yourself into thinking the Giants are going to be anything but very good. Manning and Burress were top ten picks, Shockey and Tiki are pro bowlers and Toomer is as good a #2 WR as there is. Their size advantage causes major matchup problems, they are the NFL's highest scoring team (by far), and they can grind it out when they have to-- you can ask for little more from an offense. Defensively they range from average to good.

The NFC East is headed where everyone thought it would once Tom Coughlin and Joe Gibbs joined the division. Since week 2 not one team in the division has had a losing record.

I agree with all that you said but if you mention that manning and burress were top ten picks you have to mention that bledsoe keyshawn and terry were all top ten picks. That to me is not a reason to think the Giants are going to be good. The giants will be good because they have a plether of weapons on the offesnive side of the football. Like us they have a very competent receiving core complimented by Jeremy Shockey who even if he's overrated is still a great tight end. Tiki Barber needs no introduction and can go the distance on any screen they throw to him. Their o-line isn't the most talented group but right now they seem to be doing enough to let eli deliver the pass on target.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

We contained LT and our incompetance at FS enticed SD into passing too much. But we did contain LT. Our problem comes with stopping average running backs-- the great ones we lock down easily enough .

Right.

My point was, whether it is true or not, LT felt he was not getting the ball enough. Even though your point is proved, cuz he only got 2 more extra carries (21) against the Giants when he blew up as opposed to 19 carries against us lol.

- Mike G.

 

[·[A]koN·]

Respect to whom respect deserves, Giants are playing some nice football, E. Manning is becomin a very very solid QB. .....JMO.