"We didn't blitz that much"--Bill Parcells

[Pukindog]

FWIW, hence my two cents, Fuzzy is completely correct on his reasoning. Anything more than the defensive line penetrating behind the LOS is technically a blitz.

 

[theogt]

so what if according to the true definition we are blitzing someone on every play?

the blitz is sometimes coming from the right the left or the middle.

Well, apparently Bill Parcells disagrees with the "true definition." This means one of two things.

1) The "true defintion" is wrong.

OR

2) You're misreading the "true definition."

Take your pick.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

who is 'Mr. 30-yard slant'?

 

[Screw The Hall]

This definition seems to support both of your arguements. Hopefully it helps you settle on a happy medium. It does seem like the best definition I've seen so far.


http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061118haughonbears,0,4586772.column


About half way down the first sentence under the Experience Helps heading.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well, apparently Bill Parcells disagrees with the "true definition." This means one of two things.

1) The "true defintion" is wrong.

OR

2) You're misreading the "true definition."

Take your pick.

give his exact quote in context then well talk. if he said we didnt blitz more than we normally do it could easily be construed he was saying more blitzers instead of your interpretation of more times.

 

[theogt]

This definition seems to support both of your arguements. Hopefully it helps you settle on a happy medium. It does seem like the best definition I've seen so far.


http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061118haughonbears,0,4586772.column


About half way down the first sentence under the Experience Helps heading.

Here's the quote:

By definition, a blitz occurs either when a defender who isn't on the line of scrimmage rushes the quarterback or more than four players rush the passer.

Eh...sometimes OLBs start off the line of scrimmage to disguise the rush. This isn't blitzing. That leaves the 5+ men part.

 

[theogt]

give his exact quote in context then well talk. if he said we didnt blitz more than we normally do it could easily be construed he was saying more blitzers instead of your interpretation of more times.

My God. Read the first post in this thread. You can fight logic all you want but it gets you nowhere.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This definition seems to support both of your arguements. Hopefully it helps you settle on a happy medium. It does seem like the best definition I've seen so far.


http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-061118haughonbears,0,4586772.column


About half way down the first sentence under the Experience Helps heading.

Experience helps

By definition, a blitz occurs either when a defender who isn't on the line of scrimmage rushes the quarterback or more than four players rush the passer.

 

[Screw The Hall]

Here's the quote:
Eh...sometimes OLBs start off the line of scrimmage to disguise the rush. This isn't blitzing. That leaves the 5+ men part.

If a corner or a saftey come it's a blitz though all day long ... no matter how many come.

The definition wasn't perfect but it's not completely dependent on a set number coming either ... and there is truth in that.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

My God. Read the first post in this thread. You can fight logic all you want but it gets you nowhere.

thats not logic donkeyboy thats a paraphrase by someone. i actually heard the PC and remembering him saying more.

 

[theogt]

If a corner or a saftey come it's a blitz though all day long ... no matter how many come.

The definition wasn't perfect but it's not completely dependent on a set number coming either ... and there is truth in that.

If a corner or safety rushes the passer and the LB goes into coverage that is more akin to a zone blitz, which is not technically a blitz.

 

[BigDFan5]

If this is true, then please do. have him qualify the definition.

Its true, I am one of the moderators of the about.com football forum. I will get back with you tommorrow with his answer

 

[hmcorp]

who cares. we didnt blitz that much. we never really blitz much.

we are just a good defense.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If a corner or safety rushes the passer and the LB goes into coverage that is more akin to a zone blitz, which is not technically a blitz.

Actually a zoneblitz is when a LB blitzes and a dlineman drops into coverage normally on the other side of the formation. it was used to hose WCO blocking schemes.

linebackers often go into coverage.

 

[theogt]

Actually a zoneblitz is when a LB blitzes and a dlineman drops into coverage normally on the other side of the formation. it was used to hose WCO blocking schemes.

linebackers often go into coverage.

A zone blitz can be where a LB OR a safety OR a CB rushes and a lineman drops into coverage. Do I have to teach you everything?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Its true, I am one of the moderators of the about.com football forum. I will get back with you tommorrow with his answer

beautiful. i have a feeling that were both right after the most recent definition. if the OLB lines up on the los then its not a blitz but if hes back then hes not.

thus when ware rushed from the slot he was blitzing but when he was tight on the end he wasnt.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A zone blitz can be where a LB OR a safety OR a CB rushes and a lineman drops into coverage. Do I have to teach you everything?

learn to read: he said db blitzes and LB drops back. youre attempts at belittling me are pretty sad illiterate one.

 

[theogt]

learn to read: he said db blitzes and LB drops back. youre attempts at belittling me are pretty sad illiterate one.

A DB is either a safety or a cornerback. Wow, you're learning a lot today!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A DB is either a safety or a cornerback. Wow, you're learning a lot today!

well perhaps you should learn that when a LB drops into coverage and a db blitzes that ISNT a zone blitz like you said it was.

YOURE WRONG, DEAL WITH IT

 

[theogt]

well perhaps you should learn that when a LB drops into coverage and a db blitzes that ISNT a zone blitz like you said it was.

Oh is that what I said?

A zone blitz can be where a LB OR a safety OR a CB rushes and a lineman drops into coverage. Do I have to teach you everything?

Sorry, I don't have the time to teach you about football and how to read.