"We don't do that" - this bothers me

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Is that right?

was that BP's answer to the question as to why we didnt have TNew on Roy Williams "we dont flip-flop DB's from one side to another"

If so... why????????:bang2:
 

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YoMick;1282995 said:
Is that right?

was that BP's answer to the question as to why we didnt have TNew on Roy Williams "we dont flip-flop DB's from one side to another"

If so... why????????:bang2:

Huh? We've done it before.
 

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YoMick;1282995 said:
Is that right?

was that BP's answer to the question as to why we didnt have TNew on Roy Williams "we dont flip-flop DB's from one side to another"

If so... why????????:bang2:

Only elite CBs do that. We don't have any or any that believe enough in their abilities to tell the coaching staff they want the assignment:eek::
 

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abersonc;1282999 said:
Huh? We've done it before.

Rarely. Bill likes his DBs to play sides, as do most coordinators in the league, regardless of corners or receivers. I may not have the exact stat, but in 05 I think the CB who matched up against #1's most was Springs, at about 60% of the time.
 

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When did Parcells supposedly say that?

We've done it a number of times with Newman -- he has shadowed Steve Smith, Santana Moss and Isaac Bruce, among others.
 

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superpunk;1283017 said:
Rarely. Bill likes his DBs to play sides, as do most coordinators in the league, regardless of corners or receivers. I may not have the exact stat, but in 05 I think the CB who matched up against #1's most was Springs, at about 60% of the time.

No, Springs was among the lowest -- only 34 percent of the passes against him were to No. 1 receivers.
 

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AdamJT13;1283018 said:
When did Parcells supposedly say that?

We've done it a number of times with Newman -- he has shadowed Steve Smith, Santana Moss and Isaac Bruce, among others.
He does it like DeAngelo Hall?:confused:


Eerily similar to the Al Johnson is better than Gurode stats;)
 

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Jeremy Stevens is going to look like Jay Novacek against our secondary and LBs
 

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AdamJT13;1283024 said:
No, Springs was among the lowest -- only 34 percent of the passes against him were to No. 1 receivers.
OK, got that one mixed up. Who were among the highest, then? And what was the percentage?
 

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Charles;1283025 said:
He does it like DeAngelo Hall?:confused:

No, because Newman always shuts down his man when he shadows them. Hall usually gets torched.

Eerily similar to the Al Johnson is better than Gurode stats

I never said that. I said Johnson wasn't as bad as people claimed.
 

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This is one of the great characteristics of Parcells's defense.

Teams go out of their way to create matchup problems. They motion receivers and have different formations in order to achieve favorable matchups.

With a Parcells defense all you have to do is walk your guy right out to a position that matches him up well, because Parcells isn't going to change his formation to "fix" the matchup problem.

Adam mentioned a few times we've done it in the past. Watch those games. When we've done it, it's worked amazingly. When we don't, we get ridiculous matchups like A. Glenn on Roy Williams (there's nearly a 10 inch difference there).
 

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theogt;1283160 said:
This is one of the great characteristics of Parcells's defense.

Teams go out of their way to create matchup problems. They motion receivers and have different formations in order to achieve favorable matchups.

With a Parcells defense all you have to do is walk your guy right out to a position that matches him up well, because Parcells isn't going to change his formation to "fix" the matchup problem.

Adam mentioned a few times we've done it in the past. Watch those games. When we've done it, it's worked amazingly. When we don't, we get ridiculous matchups like A. Glenn on Roy Williams (there's nearly a 10 inch difference there).

Ok then... so when we do change it works well and when we dont we get toasted.... BP is smart.... so.... what is the problem.... go with what works better right?
 

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YoMick;1283163 said:
Ok then... so when we do change it works well and when we dont we get toasted.... BP is smart.... so.... what is the problem.... go with what works better right?
Is this a trick question? :D
 

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theogt;1283160 said:
This is one of the great characteristics of Parcells's defense.

Teams go out of their way to create matchup problems. They motion receivers and have different formations in order to achieve favorable matchups.

With a Parcells defense all you have to do is walk your guy right out to a position that matches him up well, because Parcells isn't going to change his formation to "fix" the matchup problem.

Adam mentioned a few times we've done it in the past. Watch those games. When we've done it, it's worked amazingly. When we don't, we get ridiculous matchups like A. Glenn on Roy Williams (there's nearly a 10 inch difference there).

Awesome post. Couldn't agree more.
 

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theogt;1283160 said:
This is one of the great characteristics of Parcells's defense.

Teams go out of their way to create matchup problems. They motion receivers and have different formations in order to achieve favorable matchups.

With a Parcells defense all you have to do is walk your guy right out to a position that matches him up well, because Parcells isn't going to change his formation to "fix" the matchup problem.

Adam mentioned a few times we've done it in the past. Watch those games. When we've done it, it's worked amazingly. When we don't, we get ridiculous matchups like A. Glenn on Roy Williams (there's nearly a 10 inch difference there).
Sadly ur so right but Parcells is too retarted to realize that (some would say stubborn but no thats being retarted when you go away from something that works)
 

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YoMick;1283163 said:
Ok then... so when we do change it works well and when we dont we get toasted.... BP is smart.... so.... what is the problem.... go with what works better right?
He is?
 

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I think its a bad idea, if they mixed things up we might throw thier opponents off and become less predictable. Definately not BP's or Zimmer's way of doing things on defense.
 

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abersonc;1282999 said:
Huh? We've done it before.
When? This is exactly what Butch and Campo got nailed with in 1995. We'd have a linebacker covering the other team's best receiver lined up in the slot and Deion would be covering the TE lined up wide. It was idiotic and predictable. Davis leads to Campo and Campo leads to Zimmer and Zimmer leads to Suffering and Suffering leads to the Dark Side.
 
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