R. J. Dill suspended

[conner01]

With steroids does the NFL make exceptions for medical reasons?

Yes
But not the kind that's going to enhance your performance
Lots of asthma patients take steroids but what people take to build muscle is much different and they have to disclose the meds

 

[Eric_Boyer]

You mean Dill weed

"dill wad" is perfectly cromulent in my region of the world.

 

[AdamJT13]

as per Rotoworld he is suspended 4-games for violating the substance abuse policy.

The substance abuse policy is very different from the performance enhancing drug policy. Dill was suspended under the performance enhancing drugs policy.

 

[AdamJT13]

testosterone replacement? .. that sounds like something ARod was flying to DR for... "blood cleansing"? .. or maybe something different.. when does this get prescribed?

All of those commercials you see during football games for "low-T"? That's when.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/sexual-health/in-depth/testosterone-therapy/art-20045728


This is a legitimate medical treatment, and Dill was out of the NFL when he underwent the treatment as prescribed by his doctor. But the NFL rules don't allow for it except in extreme cases, and "low-T" is not an extreme case.

 

[dogberry]

If it is a legitimate medical condition, would Dill have a case under the Americans with Disabilities Act?

 

[StylisticS]

The first page is glorious.

 

[JDSmith]

That right there if it is true and for valid reason is an issue with the PED policy. I know its a slippery slope but if someone has a valid medical reason for it should they forgo their NFL dreams.

What about me? I had to forgo my NFL dreams because I'm 5' 8", 180 lbs and slow.

If the guy doesn't produce enough testosterone he doesn't belong in the NFL any more than I do.

And they tried that type of medical loophole in MMA and guys suddenly developed 'low test' and got on legally sanctioned steroids.

 

[JDSmith]

I believe him (Dill) over the NFL. I am getting tired of the NFL and Goodell trampling on citizens' rights. If what he says is legit and the doctor prescribed it for low testosterone, an exemption should have been granted. The medical field should trump whatever idiot rule the NFL has. The NFL should have to prove that the doctor was wrong and had no basis for prescribing the testosterone treatment.

Now, if Dill went doctor-shopping to fine one who would give him what he wanted even though he didn't need it, then he deserves it. It should be easy to prove one way or the other with a hormone test result before the prescription (assuming there was one).

Sure, except it's easy to fake those tests. All you have to do is go on a cycle of steroids and stop in the middle. Your body will suffer a period where it's not producing enough testosterone and you suddenly have 'low testosterone' even though it was medically induced just to beat the test. That's the reason they cycles steroids where you phase on and off, because when you stop suddenly your body has to make up for all the supplemental testosterone it was getting, and it can't do it instantly.

 

[manster4ever]

Knows he can't compete without PED's. Buh Bye Dill hole.

 

[Teague31]

Knows he can't compete without PED's. Buh Bye Dill hole.

He can't compete with them either

 

[Zekeats]

who cares? close the post

 

[Tabascocat]

You know ya suck if you still suck after the PED's

 

[casmith07]

as per Rotoworld he is suspended 4-games for violating the substance abuse policy. a guaranteed cut.

FIFY.

 

[dallasdave]

"dill wad" is perfectly cromulent in my region of the world.

 

[jrumann59]

What about me? I had to forgo my NFL dreams because I'm 5' 8", 180 lbs and slow.

If the guy doesn't produce enough testosterone he doesn't belong in the NFL any more than I do.

And they tried that type of medical loophole in MMA and guys suddenly developed 'low test' and got on legally sanctioned steroids.

If you read my post you would have saw the "slippery slope" part. You can't fix genetics that is why you had to forgo your NFL career. If he has a definitive medical condition or disease that can be documented and not doctored I do not see the issue.

 

[JDSmith]

If you read my post you would have saw the "slippery slope" part. You can't fix genetics that is why you had to forgo your NFL career. If he has a definitive medical condition or disease that can be documented and not doctored I do not see the issue.

The issue is that his body doesn't produce enough testosterone (supposedly). Well apparently neither does mine. Or maybe I just needed some more growth hormone. And again, you can fake the tests easily. It's not a slippery slope to allow certain guys to take supplemental testosterone - it's a cliff. It's a hole. I read your post, and it was flat out wrong in this context. You don't allow some guys to circumvent the rules while others are held to them. I don't care what his medical condition is, if he needs a different set of rules to play football then he simply can't play football - find another job.

 

[Biggems]

this thread reminds me of Kevin Nash during the big football game in "The Longest Yard"

 

[Jack Burton]

Good.

 

[jrumann59]

The issue is that his body doesn't produce enough testosterone (supposedly). Well apparently neither does mine. Or maybe I just needed some more growth hormone. And again, you can fake the tests easily. It's not a slippery slope to allow certain guys to take supplemental testosterone - it's a cliff. It's a hole. I read your post, and it was flat out wrong in this context. You don't allow some guys to circumvent the rules while others are held to them. I don't care what his medical condition is, if he needs a different set of rules to play football then he simply can't play football - find another job.

Sorry but genetics is what limits you, yes you can take supplements to be stronger, maybe a little faster, you could take all the testosterone int he world but ultimately you will be limited by your genetics. I agree you can fake tests. Only Dill and his doctor knows, and maybe his wife, since testosterone can be used to treat low sperm count, or maybe thyroid problem or he is just juicing. Maybe we should suspend any player that has received an opiate, while under the care of a doctor, it is on the banned substance list who knows he could be an addict and is having a false prescription being filled.

 

[JDSmith]

Sorry but genetics is what limits you, yes you can take supplements to be stronger, maybe a little faster, you could take all the testosterone int he world but ultimately you will be limited by your genetics. I agree you can fake tests. Only Dill and his doctor knows, and maybe his wife, since testosterone can be used to treat low sperm count, or maybe thyroid problem or he is just juicing. Maybe we should suspend any player that has received an opiate, while under the care of a doctor, it is on the banned substance list who knows he could be an addict and is having a false prescription being filled.

Are opiates on the banned list, or they are on the banned list without a prescription? There is a big difference. If a guy needs opiates and the league has stated that exemptions can be granted then it is up to the player to go about getting such an exemption. But if the league said there are no exemptions then yes, a guy with a prescription should and would be banned.

Nobody cares about 'the dream' of playing in the NFL. Millions of people can't fulfill that dream for one reason or another. If a guy needs supplemental testosterone he just falls into that group of millions, because he can't take it and play in the NFL.