R. J. Dill suspended

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I believe him (Dill) over the NFL. I am getting tired of the NFL and Goodell trampling on citizens' rights. If what he says is legit and the doctor prescribed it for low testosterone, an exemption should have been granted. The medical field should trump whatever idiot rule the NFL has. The NFL should have to prove that the doctor was wrong and had no basis for prescribing the testosterone treatment.

Now, if Dill went doctor-shopping to fine one who would give him what he wanted even though he didn't need it, then he deserves it. It should be easy to prove one way or the other with a hormone test result before the prescription (assuming there was one).

I don't disbelieve him but folks here gotta understand the rules. Banned substances are banned substances. In many states, your doctor can prescribe marijuana. Does that mean those with a prescription are allowed to smoke?
 

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I don't disbelieve him but folks here gotta understand the rules. Banned substances are banned substances. In many states, your doctor can prescribe marijuana. Does that mean those with a prescription are allowed to smoke?

If your doctor prescribes it, then, yeah, you get to use it. Let the NFL fight it out with the doctors and the medical field. The players shouldn't be caught in the middle.

And marijuana is a bad example because I think the league will stop testing for it possibly next season or the following. It is pretty much the equivalent of testing for caffeine or alcohol.
 

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If your doctor prescribes it, then, yeah, you get to use it. Let the NFL fight it out with the doctors and the medical field. The players shouldn't be caught in the middle.

And marijuana is a bad example because I think the league will stop testing for it possibly next season or the following. It is pretty much the equivalent of testing for caffeine or alcohol.

Not true. In CA, you can get it via a doctor but most jobs won't let you smoke it. Even though it is legal to do so, employers don't have to follow.
 
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"replacement therapy" isn't cheating. If the doc swears by the test results, and the league docs confirm them, then why not?

Aside from that though,,, this is the kind of thing a player should report to his coaches and the league before getting "treatment". Looks fishy, especially when it's a bubble player trying to make the team.
 

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Not true. In CA, you can get it via a doctor but most jobs won't let you smoke it. Even though it is legal to do so, employers don't have to follow.

Those were my opinions. To say what I meant, I should have said "If your doctor prescribes it, then, yeah, you should get to use it. I wasn't speaking about the present but what I thought the future should be or what the policy should be to be fair to the players.
 

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"replacement therapy" isn't cheating. If the doc swears by the test results, and the league docs confirm them, then why not?

Aside from that though,,, this is the kind of thing a player should report to his coaches and the league before getting "treatment". Looks fishy, especially when it's a bubble player trying to make the team.

You know that the vast majority of healthy 25 year old men don't need that, correct? One of the primary reasons that an otherwise healthy person might need it is because of steroid abuse. So if a guy juices through high school and college, then gets to the pros and is afraid to get caught, he gets supplemental testosterone because his body is jacked from using synthetic testosterone for years. So he'd get all of the benefits of years of steroid abuse and then have legally sanctioned testosterone injections to keep him 'normal.'

Here is a picture of an MMA fighter who was granted an exemption for 'replacement therapy' because of his tragically low testosterone levels. His doctor swore by the test results and the Nevada Athletic Commission's doctors verified them.

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How do you think his testosterone levels became depleted?
 

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If your doctor prescribes it, then, yeah, you get to use it. Let the NFL fight it out with the doctors and the medical field. The players shouldn't be caught in the middle.

And marijuana is a bad example because I think the league will stop testing for it possibly next season or the following. It is pretty much the equivalent of testing for caffeine or alcohol.

Not what the CBA says.

I do agree on weed. It is an effective and largely harmless pain management tool as well
 
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You know that the vast majority of healthy 25 year old men don't need that, correct? One of the primary reasons that an otherwise healthy person might need it is because of steroid abuse. So if a guy juices through high school and college, then gets to the pros and is afraid to get caught, he gets supplemental testosterone because his body is jacked from using synthetic testosterone for years. So he'd get all of the benefits of years of steroid abuse and then have legally sanctioned testosterone injections to keep him 'normal.'

Here is a picture of an MMA fighter who was granted an exemption for 'replacement therapy' because of his tragically low testosterone levels. His doctor swore by the test results and the Nevada Athletic Commission's doctors verified them.

212c445a47d0fd842b1f24b270201140_1303930586.jpg


How do you think his testosterone levels became depleted?

So you're saying that replacement therapy actually creates far more than normal testosterone levels for the patients? That doesn't seem logical.
 
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