R2A battle-plans for the Ware situation

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I've been putting a lot of thought into what I think we should do this off-season with our big looming controversy of the DeMarcus Ware situation. I've come up with three solutions that are amicable given Wares' apparent refusal to consider a pay-cut.

1 - Ware agrees to convert 5M in both '14 and '15 into performance based incentives, the exact point in which he receives the entire $12.25M could be determined but likely at 14 sacks. This is ideal for both sides as Ware doesn't necessarily take a paycut while we are able to free up cap space, we also get to put a carrot on the stick to motivate Ware. This seems like a possible solution, likely can get this done by similarly reallocating a large portion of the base salary in each year into guaranteed money.

2 - Outright cut Ware. This is my least favorite option, but nonetheless it is a prevalent option. If Ware is absolutely unreasonable this may be necessary, if so I'd propose signing Jared Allen to a 2-3 year deal. He certainly won't come "cheap", but it won't be an obscene contract either. Allen is still a very good player, and at 31 he still has few good years left. He will likely be seeking a high guarantee on his contract, and Jones is certainly not afraid to do that so this seems plausible. This allows us time to rebuild the d-line as in this scenario we could potentially be losing Ware, Spencer and Hatcher this off-season.

3 - Trade Ware. This seems the most far-fetched, however if we were to package him with another player there could certainly be some interest. There are a few teams with 50m+ in cap room who need to spend money so the contract isn't absolutely prohibitive.

There are a few other potential ways to deal with this that are less likely, such as adding another year to his contract and moving a portion of the money due this year and next to year three, however these three seem to be the most likely, outside of doing absolutely nothing which certainly may be Jones' modus operandi.
 

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One isn't an option, almost nobody takes incentive Laden contacts, let alone a guy who already has a huge contract
 

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One isn't an option, almost nobody takes incentive Laden contacts, let alone a guy who already has a huge contract

I don't know man. It could work if we reallocate some of the base money into guarantee. Both sides would come away feeling as though it was a win.
 

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Ware needs to renegotiate his contract period. He has never made 13m per year, these are just the tack on years to make his original contract look better.
 

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I think it could go down like this which was posted by someone else in another thread...

"DeMarcus, we love you, and we appreciate the impact you've made for this team, and the spokesperson you've been for the franchise, but at your age, and with the injuries you've struggled with over the last 2 years, we don't think the salary you're set to earn this year is appropriate. We would love for you to be a part of what we're building here, but we don't see it as sustainable at your current cost. We think you'd get $5 Million a year for a season or two, if you were a free agent, and we think you're valuable to this organization above and beyond the field so we would like to drop your salary to $7.5 Million for this year and next and $5M the two years after that."
 

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I think it could go down like this which was posted by someone else in another thread...

"DeMarcus, we love you, and we appreciate the impact you've made for this team, and the spokesperson you've been for the franchise, but at your age, and with the injuries you've struggled with over the last 2 years, we don't think the salary you're set to earn this year is appropriate. We would love for you to be a part of what we're building here, but we don't see it as sustainable at your current cost. We think you'd get $5 Million a year for a season or two, if you were a free agent, and we think you're valuable to this organization above and beyond the field so we would like to drop your salary to $7.5 Million for this year and next and $5M the two years after that."

Similar to what I threw away as part of the other options. I could see a contract extension, but I'm not sure if he would go for it. He'd want to test the market before being locked up until he's 35.
 

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Similar to what I threw away as part of the other options. I could see a contract extension, but I'm not sure if he would go for it. He'd want to test the market before being locked up until he's 35.

I don't see why they need to offer a contract extension:

This is his base salary for the next two seasons:

2014 12,250,000
2015 13,750,000

The team simply reduces his base to $7.5 mil this year and $5 mil next year.

Ware would not make $7.5 mil anywhere in the NFL this year.
 

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I don't see why they need to offer a contract extension:

This is his base salary for the next two seasons:

2014 12,250,000 8,571,500
2015 13,750,000

The team simply reduces his base to $7.5 mil this year and $5 mil next year.

Ware would not make $7.5 mil anywhere in the NFL this year.

Then why should Dallas pay that much?
 

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I think it could go down like this which was posted by someone else in another thread...

"DeMarcus, we love you, and we appreciate the impact you've made for this team, and the spokesperson you've been for the franchise, but at your age, and with the injuries you've struggled with over the last 2 years, we don't think the salary you're set to earn this year is appropriate. We would love for you to be a part of what we're building here, but we don't see it as sustainable at your current cost. We think you'd get $5 Million a year for a season or two, if you were a free agent, and we think you're valuable to this organization above and beyond the field so we would like to drop your salary to $7.5 Million for this year and next and $5M the two years after that."

I would do that and follow up by informing Ware he will be cut if he refuses. We simply can't be afraid to cut him. Not cutting him can send the wrong message to the locker room. Cutting Ware sends a very very strong message. We need changes that get players attention and sends the message that you produce or you are gone. Players have been living off Jerry's paycheck for far too long. The free ride days need to come to an end. I can't think of a better example than to start with one of the highest profile and respected players.
 

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I would do that and follow up by informing Ware he will be cut if he refuses. We simply can't be afraid to cut him. Not cutting him can send the wrong message to the locker room. Cutting Ware sends a very very strong message. We need changes that get players attention and sends the message that you produce or you are gone. Players have been living off Jerry's paycheck for far too long. The free ride days need to come to an end. I can't think of a better example than to start with one of the highest profile and respected players.

I don't think the Cowboys are afraid of cutting folks... And I'm sure the players know that. I mean consider they've been down this road with folks like McCray (took the salary cut), Gurode (didn't take the salary cut and was cut), and Free (took the salary cut). The Cowboys have been better at weeding out older players who were no longer worth their contracts .
 

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I would do that and follow up by informing Ware he will be cut if he refuses. We simply can't be afraid to cut him. Not cutting him can send the wrong message to the locker room. Cutting Ware sends a very very strong message. We need changes that get players attention and sends the message that you produce or you are gone. Players have been living off Jerry's paycheck for far too long. The free ride days need to come to an end. I can't think of a better example than to start with one of the highest profile and respected players.

Issue being is that I feel like Ware can still play. I do think he would be reasonable and we just need to be creative with moving the money around.
 

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Issue being is that I feel like Ware can still play. I do think he would be reasonable and we just need to be creative with moving the money around.

Oh he can certainly still play. Even with the injuries and such, he was the 8th rated DE per PFF. The thing that Ware hardly gets credit for is his ability to stop the run, and he did better vs the run in '13 than he did rushing the passer.

No, Ware is not a $12 or $13 mil per season player, but he is worth something.
 

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I would do that and follow up by informing Ware he will be cut if he refuses. We simply can't be afraid to cut him. Not cutting him can send the wrong message to the locker room. Cutting Ware sends a very very strong message. We need changes that get players attention and sends the message that you produce or you are gone. Players have been living off Jerry's paycheck for far too long. The free ride days need to come to an end. I can't think of a better example than to start with one of the highest profile and respected players.

I am 100% with you here.
It's time to bring The Fear.
Jimmy J brought The Fear and it drew out the best in the keepers on this team.

Everyone works to their max when they Fear for their very jobs- it's human nature.
The ones that wilt (also known as quitting) shouldn't be on the team anyway.

Putting even the "Untouchables" on notice is a powerful way to do this.
Fully supported.
 

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I think it could go down like this which was posted by someone else in another thread...

"DeMarcus, we love you, and we appreciate the impact you've made for this team, and the spokesperson you've been for the franchise, but at your age, and with the injuries you've struggled with over the last 2 years, we don't think the salary you're set to earn this year is appropriate. We would love for you to be a part of what we're building here, but we don't see it as sustainable at your current cost. We think you'd get $5 Million a year for a season or two, if you were a free agent, and we think you're valuable to this organization above and beyond the field so we would like to drop your salary to $7.5 Million for this year and next and $5M the two years after that."

That's a little high. No need to extend him over 4 more seasons. Look at other players doing what he does. Two years at 5.5 is more than fair. Can't get into that area read above ^
 

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You said reduce his base to $7.5M

Then said he won't make that anywhere else.

So why should Dallas pay that much.

I think if the Cowboys broach the subject of a pay-cut with Ware they would offer something that was a little more than what he would get on the open market. They did something similar with Free offering him $3.5 mil per season for two seasons. Free (prior to knowing how his '13 campaign would shape up) probably wouldn't have been viewed as even being worth $3.5 mil to most Cowboy fans.

I don't think they want to embarrass Ware or force him to say, "No, I won't take it, because I can get more elsewhere. Simply cut me."

If you simply cut Ware, the Cowboys would gain like $7 mil in cap space for this season. But they would still have to replace the guy. I'd rather save $4.5 mil this season and like $7 mil off the cap next season AND still have the guy on the roster.
 

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That's a little high. No need to extend him over 4 more seasons. Look at other players doing what he does. Two years at 5.5 is more than fair. Can't get into that area read above ^

Regardless of what's the right figure... $5.5 mil for '14 or $7.5 mil, I think him taking a salary cut and staying on the roster is better than cutting him.
 
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