Rams get #1 overall

[TwoCentPlain]

Is there honestly a less 'game-changing' trifecta of players than Ramsey, Bosa, or Jack? Take a look at each of their 'productivity' and lack thereof, especially in their 'audition seasons'.

"Less game-changing trifecta of players than Ramsey, Bosa, or Jack?" Sure, Wentz, Goff, and Lynch

 

[Teague31]

If we do trade down to 15 who is the pick? Lynch? Lawson?

 

[LittleD]

I also think that if you get a Tunsil, he eventually will want to play Left Tackle. That is where the OL glory and more important, money is. Maybe, just maybe he is fine with playing RT. He will want LT moneyafter his rookie contract, assuming he is as great as projected.

If we take him, big if, we would hold his rights as a right tackle for 5 years and then could franchise him for another two as a right tackle if he proves
out to be that good.

 

[DFWJC]

They say a future 1st is like the #48 pick in this years draft. It lines up on the trade value chart.

#4- 1700
#15- 1050
#48- 450 (next years 1st perceived value)
#76- 210

1700 vs 1710 in point value comparison

4 =1800 normally..but really +/- 5-10% anyway

I guess all along, I've kind of felt to get both of their 2s, we'd have to give them our 4.

 

[LittleD]

"Less game-changing trifecta of players than Ramsey, Bosa, or Jack?" Sure, Wentz, Goff, and Lynch

None of those 3 QB's is rated anywhere near as good as Mariota was last year. I think two of these are sure fire busts.

 

[Sydla]

I think Tunsil goes to Chargers. They drafted Gordon last year and it only makes sense to get an OLineman he can run behind for years.

The Browns could also use him if they believe they need don't need Goff and want better protection for RGIII.

We could very well see Ramsey or Goff @ #4

The flipside is they already have money tied up in the OTs and just lost Weddle so they need a FS. I think one can argue for Ramsey at 3 as much as Tunsil at 3.

 

[Sydla]

If we do trade down to 15 who is the pick? Lynch? Lawson?

If Lynch is there at 15, you take him.

 

[DFWJC]

None of those 3 QB's is rated anywhere near as good as Mariota was last year. I think two of these are sure fire busts.

Here was Scout Inc's take

97--Winston
93--Mariotta
91--Goff
91--Wentz
84--Lynch

 

[LittleD]

If Lynch is there at 15, you take him.

My guess is you are very close to being right if they do indeed trade down that far.

 

[CowboyMort]

If Lynch is there at 15, you take him.

That would be my choice too.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The flipside is they already have money tied up in the OTs and just lost Weddle so they need a FS. I think one can argue for Ramsey at 3 as much as Tunsil at 3.

Don't forget Jack if his recheck is good.

Word is they were interested in him as a possible Safety/LB (talking San Diego)

 

[LittleD]

Here was DraftScout's take

97--Winston
93--Mariotta
91--Goff
91--Wentz
85--Lynch

Better check some better draft sites. Also, where was Bridgewater and Ponder rated?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If we do trade down to 15 who is the pick? Lynch? Lawson?

I think Lynch could very well be gone at that point.

They might have Lawson and Spence to choose from at DE.
Maybe they see Treadwell possibly sitting there

 

[lostar2009]

I think Vernon Adam Jr is being slept on big time. Played good at all levels of school.

 

[DFWJC]

Better check some better draft sites. Also, where was Bridgewater and Ponder rated?

Several (not the majority, but several) were rated too high or too low...as with all services.

By this service (should be Scout Inc and not DraftScout) Ponder was 85 and Bridgewater was 89.
Btw, they had Rodgers at 99.

 

[TheCount]

Well that's probably something one should know if you are willing to let a Top 3 center in football walk so you can take another Top 10 OT.

I apologize for not having a time machine.

 

[slick325]

If we take him, big if, we would hold his rights as a right tackle for 5 years and then could franchise him for another two as a right tackle if he proves
out to be that good.

That 5th year option would be paying him top T money and so would the Franchise Tag two years in a row. There is no designation between LT and RT when it comes to the Franchise Tag or the Rookie Option.

 

[TheCount]

thanks for the counseling, i feel better already...now with all that aside, back to your point, taking Tunsil would probably make Frederick expenable for salary reasons, and no matter what anyone thinks, I believe Collins should be kicked out to RT, as I feel he is out of position at LG. with Leary moving back to LG. but that's just me. as for the draft....if Wentz or Goff are there at #4 that's a no brainer, if not, i would seriously entertain a trade down to #6 or #7 and getting Elliott. and that's a wrap.

I thought Collin's looked pretty good at guard, but I'm not against his moving to RT if he'd excel there. Obviously if they know enough to make that the plan, then they won't be interested in Tunsil.

 

[Fletch]

Which rhymes with idiot.

C'mon stash. That does not rhyme what so ever.



So if the Cowboys some how take Elliott, that'll be upsetting to you?

 

[Sydla]

I apologize for not having a time machine.

You don't need to apologize for that.

But you should have a better answer than what you've given for thinking the Cowboys are going to construct a plan where they will take yet another OT in the draft and then just let their all pro C walk as if it's just really easy to replace a center.