News: Randy Gregory: Cowboys Need To Protect Their Investment

[CCBoy]

Randy Gregory: Cowboys Need To Protect Their Investment

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"Just 24 years old."

"A pass rusher with some good raw ability."

"Stage 3 substance abuse, the next violation gets him a year suspension."

"Selfish player who can't put down the pipe."

The player I just described was Von Miller, two years ago...


Are current Cowboys 'fans' with too little stomach to support their own players?

 

[CCBoy]

...But things weren't always so rosy for the Broncos pass-rushing ace. His judgment has been poor on multiple occasions throughout his career. Here is his rap sheet:

• In 2012, he was arrested for failing to appear in court for a driving infraction.
• In 2013, he was arrested for trying to buy a gun when his background check showed he had a warrant (for not showing up in court in 2012).
• In 2013, he was suspended six games for violating the league's substance abuse policy. He tried to appeal it, but it was upheld and it was discovered that he tried to cheat the drug test.

At that time, many Denver fans had seen enough and wanted no part of him. The kid clearly just didn't get it, so why put up with his nonsense. They might as well just get rid of him.

Man, what a mistake that would have been...

 

[CCBoy]

Get him the right help

There have been reports that indicate Gregory suffers from bipolar disorder. So managing how this kid acts might be a real challenge. The Cowboys could leverage off the experiences of a Hall-of-Fame pass rusher who battled his own demons during his playing career. Charles Haley was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and struggled with it until he was able to undergo therapy and get the proper medication. He now spends his spare time mentoring the Cowboys rookies. Dallas may need to ask Haley to be even more involved in helping Gregory. There is nobody more equipped in understanding what Gregory could be going through that someone who's already gone through it.

Whether the answer is more mentoring or generating a better off-field environment, the Cowboys should work hard to help Gregory get himself back on track. They have a responsibility to help these young players. Helping Gregory get his mind right is something that could provide a big payoff for the team later.

 

[CCBoy]

Wait, a burn barrel buddy told me on this site, that Charles Haley didn't count because that was old...and in this new age, a rowdy crowd carries the field of opinion.

 

[RandyOh]

Of course we need protect our investment. Saying just cut him after 1 year is very idiotic. It will momentarily give you satisfaction but you will be pissed off when someone else scoops him up and sets him on the right path.

 

[CCBoy]

Sorry, the site information didn't work above:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...nvestment?_ga=1.184424804.37309970.1455255649

 

[CIWhitefish]

Forget "protecting the investment" as a way to look at this. To me it's the same road as the cut the bum crowd. It treats Randy as just a cog in the machine. You treat him like a person, help him be his own man, and he will walk through fire for his owner/coaches and team. That is how you build something that lasts. Sure it's a risk but life is, isn't it?

 

[cowboyblue22]

his next step is 10 games and after that a year he will either stop and change or he wont and he will cut himself like randle did this dud is another head case this team took on.

 

[CCBoy]

Youth is wasted upon this generation's young...all they really know about is a high attitude and a broad sense of self entitlements.

Go over to the Denver team and see what just happened to their earlier model of Gregory. He is due a $18,000,000, season...by all means, jump ship and swim away screaming bloody murder.

Don't even look over at the rail...because there is a rescue boat there.

 

[JohnsKey19]

As someone mentioned either here or in another thread, i'm interested in knowing what the "support system" consists of. Clearly either it's not much or Gregory completely blew it off.

 

[CATCH17]

Jesse Holley is on the Radio saying that NFL players take 2 tests at the beginning of the year.

1. For Substance and the other for performance enhancing.


Then there is no tests until the season ends.

Once the season ends they repeat those tests.


You can take steroids or do all kinds of drugs after this and never get caught.


If you ever do get caught then you can get tested any time the NFL pleases.

 

[Doc50]

As someone mentioned either here or in another thread, i'm interested in knowing what the "support system" consists of. Clearly either it's not much or Gregory completely blew it off.

Yeah, that's what bothers me. Having known risks with any asset, a protection/ rehab/ grown plan would be mandatory to limit said risk and create value in the investment. That system was initially set and well managed by Calvin Hill, but I think it's fair to say that it has more recently been unsuccessful.
Therefore, such player investments should not be made.

 

[fortdick]

Protecting the investment sounds great, but it is not an investment, rather a waste, if the player doesn't see the field. This guy has demonstrated nothing can persuade him not to smoke dope. Not money, not fame, nothing! When he is caught next time, I sure hope we haven't put ourselves in a position of dependence. How many players have missed how many games the past few years to suspension? McClain, Hardy, Scandrick, now Gregory. This stuff does not make a winner.

 

[Direwolf63]

Is Von Miller bi-polar? Not sure. But if he isn't, its not a good comparison.

Sure, the Cowboys need to protect their investment. Haley has spent a lot of time with him. But he can't be with Gregory 24/7. At some point, Gregory has to take responsibility for his own actions. Especially when he is away from the team.

I don't think we should cut him, as someone else said he will eventually cut himself if he doesn't change his ways. But I am tired of contsantly having guys on this team who need baby sitters.

 

[DC Cowboy]

Get him the right help

There have been reports that indicate Gregory suffers from bipolar disorder. So managing how this kid acts might be a real challenge. The Cowboys could leverage off the experiences of a Hall-of-Fame pass rusher who battled his own demons during his playing career. Charles Haley was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and struggled with it until he was able to undergo therapy and get the proper medication. He now spends his spare time mentoring the Cowboys rookies. Dallas may need to ask Haley to be even more involved in helping Gregory. There is nobody more equipped in understanding what Gregory could be going through that someone who's already gone through it.

Whether the answer is more mentoring or generating a better off-field environment, the Cowboys should work hard to help Gregory get himself back on track. They have a responsibility to help these young players. Helping Gregory get his mind right is something that could provide a big payoff for the team later.

This and get his parents involved as well, Calvin Hill and whom ever can help this young man keep from throwing his life away. Hell tell him to stay clean until he retires then move to Denver and have at it.

 

[CCBoy]

This and get his parents involved as well, Calvin Hill and whom ever can help this young man keep from throwing his life away. Hell tell him to stay clean until he retires then move to Denver and have at it.

That's the spirit.

 

[Doomsday101]

Gregory better get his head on right. This is pathetic, 4 game out the window because of stupidity another violation will be 8 games, (half the season). While I would not say cut him right now, I will say another violation and I would send him packing. He is no good to the Cowboys if he is missing games.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Jesse Holley is on the Radio saying that NFL players take 2 tests at the beginning of the year.

1. For Substance and the other for performance enhancing.


Then there is no tests until the season ends.

Once the season ends they repeat those tests.


You can take steroids or do all kinds of drugs after this and never get caught.


If you ever do get caught then you can get tested any time the NFL pleases.

I've heard the same from guys who have made it to the league. They didn't get into specifics other than saying you definitely know when the tests are coming. Once you get into the program, the tests are "random" but apparently you still know when to expect them.

 

[Hoofbite]

Forget "protecting the investment" as a way to look at this. To me it's the same road as the cut the bum crowd. It treats Randy as just a cog in the machine. You treat him like a person, help him be his own man, and he will walk through fire for his owner/coaches and team. That is how you build something that lasts. Sure it's a risk but life is, isn't it?

Randy should wish to be a cog in the machine. As it is, he's pulley who's bearings are starting to wear out and if he doesn't pull himself together he's going to be replaced. I don't think you build anything that lasts by passively allowing irresponsible behavior. There's no point in preaching accountability if there is none. I'd say you'd probably be better off not mentioning accountability at all if there is none because it will only serve to highlight that your act is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

The Randy Gregory's are few and far between. The overwhelming majority of players in the league don't seem to struggle with following rules so there's no need to make special exceptions for those who break the rules.

What if a team treated the hard working guys who put football first like they are their own man, and also decided that it wouldn't tolerate head cases, half-heartedness or stupid decisions that take a guy off the field?

What would we have then? Almost sounds like we'd have a roster of guys who'd all run through fire and yet they wouldn't be at risk for missing a season at any given moment. Kind of a win-win.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I'm not in the cut him side of the debate, but I do think we need to move forward like he's not on the roster. By the time Von Miller was suspended, he had 30 career sacks, Gregory is still waiting on his first, so while we do not benefit from releasing him, this is simply not a Von Miller situation.