Randy Moss Vs TO... it's come full circle.

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Many fans are familiar with the draft in which we took Greg Ellis over Randy Moss and the great debate that rages to this day about the ying and yang of that decision.

We are right back at the same point again with the same decisions.

Do we take a known, but troubled talent and make him a featured part of our team and it's image and hope to change the past and hopefully ride off together into the sunset of a SB appearance.

Or do we sidestep the issues and take a safer road and take some player or players that maybe less talented but still can help us in the longrun for the sake of hopefully not taking too big a risk..?

This is the dilemma.

This is the re-occurring nightmare, too.

We have to seemingly make this decision all over again.

Dej-vous all over again as Yogi Berra would say.

Jerry Jones has got to be having night sweats at his point over this issue and flashbacks to that draft where he failed to pull the trigger on taking Moss over Ellis.

The similarities are too errie.

In the present situation, the two players are alike.

Like their pasts making anybody who wants them to have to accept the baggage they carry.

Like their performances, where they potentially can control the outcome of games with their play.

Like their salary demands, which will hold team salary caps hostage the entire time they wear the uniform.

And alike in the fact that despite playing their whole careers, neither Moss nor TO have taken any team they have played with to a SB.

Now think about that last statement.

Read it again.

If the bottom line is to go to the SB, do either of these players do it for their teams..?

Will they..?

Can they..?

The potential outcome for big success or big failure, looms.

Answer that and then please email Jerry Jones and ask BP to throw a pale of cold water on JJ's night sweats.

He needs help these days, no doubt.

Go Cowboys.

(Opinions welcome)

parcellswaterboy
 

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parcellswaterboy said:
Many fans are familiar with the draft in which we took Greg Ellis over Randy Moss and the great debate that rages to this day about the ying and yang of that decision.

We are right back at the same point again with the same decisions.

Do we take a known, but troubled talent and make him a featured part of our team and it's image and hope to change the past and hopefully ride off together into the sunset of a SB appearance.

Or do we sidestep the issues and take a safer road and take some player or players that maybe less talented but still can help us in the longrun for the sake of hopefully not taking too big a risk..?

This is the dilemma.

This is the re-occurring nightmare, too.

We have to seemingly make this decision all over again.

Dej-vous all over again as Yogi Berra would say.

Jerry Jones has got to be having night sweats at his point over this issue and flashbacks to that draft where he failed to pull the trigger on taking Moss over Ellis.

The similarities are too errie.

In the present situation, the two players are alike.

Like their pasts making anybody who wants them to have to accept the baggage they carry.

Like their performances, where they potentially can control the outcome of games with their play.

Like their salary demands, which will hold team salary caps hostage the entire time they wear the uniform.

And alike in the fact that despite playing their whole careers, neither Moss nor TO have taken any team they have played with to a SB.

Now think about that last statement.

Read it again.

If the bottom line is to go to the SB, do either of these players do it for their teams..?

Will they..?

Can they..?

The potential outcome for big success or big failure, looms.

Answer that and then please email Jerry Jones and ask BP to throw a pale of cold water on JJ's night sweats.

He needs help these days, no doubt.

Go Cowboys.

(Opinions welcome)

parcellswaterboy


Actually, TO took his last team to a SB...
 

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I say trade for Javon Walker, resign Key and forget all about TO!
 

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Matt said:
Actually, TO took his last team to a SB...

TO missed the last part of the season and the entire playoffs he did not take them to the SB.
 

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Matt said:
Actually, TO took his last team to a SB...
Actually Terrells last team was a 3 times NFC championship team before he signed with them. He did not take them anywhere, He joined what he thought would be a sure thing, hoping for the easy way out again, not willing to work at making a team better and puttingthem over the top.


Terrell did absolutely nothing to help the eagirls, they still got to the championship game, as they had the three years before without him. They still left empty handed after finally reaching the superbowl. SO with his help, they divided the locker room, Make a mockery out of the organization and all the players. Gave the city several black eyes. Oh yea, they still lost that superbowl with the 'almighty Terrell' on the team.

I see how he helped them. Theres a saying that comes to mind. "with friends like this, who needs enemies". I find that very tue in a case like this. I prefer not to have Terrels heelp thanks. We already have enought 'friends' like him in DC and NY and Philly. We dont need any 'friends' like him on our team. :bang2:
 

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Matt said:
Actually, TO took his last team to a SB...
By taking them to a SB..

..I'm implying winning a SB.

Is he the procuring cause in a team winning a SB..?

Because that is what he must do, not just drive the bus to the stadium and drop us off.

He needs to drive us right to the winner's podium.

Can he..?

Will he..?

parcellswaterboy
 

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ParcellsWaterboy, all I know is that TO and Randy Moss aren't currently on the 1st teams they started with, so...
 

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Both Moss or T.O hasnt won a Super Bowl ring. Solid D's can adjust to their talents, and that is what you face in the playoffs.

With the two, you take a risk because of the baggage, I think T.O is more dangerous in this category. Either way, I'm glad we have Ellis and think we can win a SB without T.O.

I realize not ONE player wins a game, and believe their talents can always contribute, but I'll pass on both.
 

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Calicowboy said:
Both Moss or T.O hasnt won a Super Bowl ring. Solid D's can adjust to their talents, and that is what you face in the playoffs.

With the two, you take a risk because of the baggage, I think T.O is more dangerous in this category. Either way, I'm glad we have Ellis and think we can win a SB without T.O.

I realize not ONE player wins a game, and believe their talents can always contribute, but I'll pass on both.

Obviously you are a very smart man:)
 

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Matt said:
Actually, TO took his last team to a SB...


thought he was injured by RW and missed the last few games, the playoffs, and the championship game...... but made it to the SB and the Eagles lost..... or was I just dreaming?:D
 

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Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison haven't won superbowls and I would take them too if available.(they just said that on espn 103)

One guy doesn't take a team to the superbowl, but he can be a huge piece that helps a team do it.
 

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Should have drafted Moss and we wouldn't be going after Owens Now.

Moss got traded but so did Culpepper...So don't say Moss was a bad apple without saying Culpepper too...Point being he's not that bad.

Don't compound the Moss mistake by NOT signing Owens!

Sign T.O.!
 

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ConcordCowboy said:
Should have drafted Moss and we wouldn't be going after Owens Now.

Moss got traded but so did Culpepper...So don't say Moss was a bad apple without saying Culpepper too...Point being he's not that bad.

Don't compound the Moss mistake by NOT signing Owens!

Sign T.O.!

..of this thread.

If we don't sign TO, are we compounding the types of mistakes we made with not taking Moss before..?

and if we do take Owens and think he's the Holy Grail for our next SB victory, is that realistic and/or wise..since others before us have found it not to be the case with both Moss and Owens.

No rings with them.

Yet their teams dancing to their every tune.

What's that old saying..

"Only fools rush in where others fear to tread.."..?

Makes you want to go hmmm..?

parcellswaterboy
 

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parcellswaterboy said:
..of this thread.

If we don't sign TO, are we compounding the types of mistakes we made with not taking Moss before..?

and if we do take Owens and think he's the Holy Grail for our next SB victory, is that realistic and/or wise..since others before us have found it not to be the case with both Moss and Owens.

No rings with them.

Yet their teams dancing to their every tune.

What's that old saying..

"Only fools rush in where others fear to tread.."..?

Makes you want to go hmmm..?

parcellswaterboy

Marino never won a superbowl either so whats your point.
 
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