Ray Lewis weighs in on the Dak vs Romo | Undisputed

[Doomsday101]

Thanks, I've watched a LOT of Tony Romo over the years. He's a shell of his former self and even him in his prime could NEVER get the job done. It may go back to that leadership aspect that those commentators were talking about in that video. I know a lot of his fans will point to stats several years ago, or make every excuse in the book for the guy who has NEVER been able to win, to try to paint him in a positive light... But, I along with most others just don't see it.

If he was ever great or even good I may add... He would have several super bowl rings.

That is media talk as Aikman said during the broad cast that is what they are paid to do, to give their views. If you watch long enough those media people views change like the wind. Should Romo come in playing outstanding ball I doubt you will find many of those same people claiming it was a poor move.

 

[Idgit]

Thanks, I've watched a LOT of Tony Romo over the years. He's a shell of his former self and even him in his prime could NEVER get the job done. It may go back to that leadership aspect that those commentators were talking about in that video. I know a lot of his fans will point to stats several years ago, or make every excuse in the book for the guy who has NEVER been able to win, to try to paint him in a positive light... But, I along with most others just don't see it.

If he was ever great or even good I may add... He would have several super bowl rings. Dak could win it all with this group right now. IF/WHEN Tony is put back and fails like he has done his whole career... Sure enough, here will come his fans blaming no pass rush, no LBers, injuries, Jerry Jones, etc... You get the picture.

Fair enough. I was just going back to your own introductory post to the forum a while back. That, and the fact that from your characterizations of Romo's play it's pretty clear that you've never really watched very much of him actually playing.

 

[Doomsday101]

The hell you would.

You and the Dak pawns create a thousand threads a day and attempt to ram as much crap down people's throats about how horrible Tony Romo is and how this team is just at heights never seen before just because of Dak.

Then you criticize the mere notion that others actually do think that Romo is better suited at the moment to run this offense and then somehow attempt to reconcile that with fandom and some emotional ties to certain players over the team.

The only one's with overwhelming emtional tied to one certain player are the Dak people and it's past the point of ridiculous. I like Dak and I like Tony Romo.

I think a healthy Tony Romo at the moment is better than Dak Prescott and better for the TEAM overall. That doesn't mean that I'm all-in for Tony Romo individually like you people are for Dak.

I know I hate that. Some here think if you like Romo then you must not like Dak. LOL I love both these guys and I am excited about Dak and his future with this team. I also love me some Romo and I will be just as critical of him as many others will be once he returns because I know Tony will be held to a high standard of play and if he fails to play at that higher level then he should be replaced.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I agree. I will pull for which ever QB is behind center frankly I like them both. My question would be for those who want Romo to remain on the bench will you back him and support him if the coaches choose to put him back in the game? Or will people own interest be greater than that of the team?

I want this team to win and will be behind whom ever is playing. But they better win.And if it is not Romo, then I will tell all those complaining to get ver it. Which is what i was told last year about Murray. Quid pro quo.

 

[Gabe]

I know I hate that. Some here think if you like Romo then you must not like Dak. LOL I love both these guys and I am excited about Dak and his future with this team. I also love me some Romo and I will be just as critical of him as many others will be once he returns because I know Tony will be held to a high standard of play and if he fails to play at that higher level then he should be replaced.

If we look at recent stats, shouldn't any reasonable person agree that our INTs/Turnovers will go up a lot with Romo playing? I think that is a fair assumption as I pointed out Romo's 7 INTs last year to Dak's 0 through 4 games. That aside, again if what we have is already working, why even try to make a change?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Ask yourself the same question.

Get over it. That is what everyone said last year about Murray. If they bring Romo back, then great. If not, don't whine.

 

[Animosity]

I think a healthy Tony Romo at the moment is better than Dak Prescott and better for the TEAM overall.

Is there proof of this? Besides 2 playoff wins in 10 years?

I certainly remember a 65 year old QB take over a 1-5 Cowboys team led by Romo, and winning more games with the same team than Romo... this notion that Romo makes the team better is clearly BS. We just didnt have a capable backup until now.

 

[Gabe]

Is there proof of this? Besides 2 playoff wins in 10 years?

I certainly remember a 65 year old QB take over a 1-5 Cowboys team led by Romo, and winning more games with the same team than Romo... this notion that Romo makes the team better is clearly BS. We just didnt have a capable backup until now.

You are absolutely 100% dead on, there is NO evidence Romo would make a positive difference. ZERO, ZIP, NONE... We have 13 years of no success as evidence as clear as evidence can be. For the first time in 20 years, we have something special going. But no, a select few fans and I suspect the owner/coach want to go back to yesteryear of complete failure.

I said it once and will say it again, those wanting to go back to Romo are enamored with failure. There is no other way of looking at it.

 

[Doomsday101]

If we look at recent stats, shouldn't any reasonable person agree that our INTs/Turnovers will go up a lot with Romo playing? I think that is a fair assumption as I pointed out Romo's 7 INTs last year to Dak's 0 through 4 games. That aside, again if what we have is already working, why even try to make a change?

If we look at recent stats? Romo opened vs NY throwing 3 TD passes and leading the team to a win with 7 seconds at the snap as well as Completion rate of 80%. The Philly game he played well and then was injured and was forced out of the game. After that Dallas went into a tail spin not winning another game until Romo returned, was he as sharp? No Dallas was rushing him back as soon as they could because the other QB sucked. Maybe he should not have returned as soon as he did but given the circumstances the Cowboys faced they were desperate to get him back and he was not ready.

So sorry I don't think your assumption is all that fair. I think Romo will get his chance to return and if he is as bad as you think he will be then he will not stay in for long. Seems you are more worried about what if Romo plays outstanding and takes this offense to another level. I'm not opposed to Dak in the least and if the Coaches are not seeing out of Romo a superior player then don't make the move but I will also call for playing the best players on the team period.

 

[Gabe]

If we look at recent stats? Romo opened vs NY throwing 3 TD passes and leading the team to a win with 7 seconds at the snap as well as Completion rate of 80%. The Philly game he played well and then was injured and was forced out of the game. After that Dallas went into a tail spin not winning another game until Romo returned, was he as sharp? No Dallas was rushing him back as soon as they could because the other QB sucked. Maybe he should not have returned as soon as he did but given the circumstances the Cowboys faced they were desperate to get him back and he was not ready.

So sorry I don't think your assumption is all that fair. I think Romo will get his chance to return and if he is as bad as you think he will be then he will not stay in for long. Seems you are more worried about what if Romo plays outstanding and takes this offense to another level. I'm not opposed to Dak in the least and if the Coaches are not seeing out of Romo a superior player then don't make the move but I will also call for playing the best players on the team period.

Again, if what we have is ALREADY working, why make the change?

 

[Doomsday101]

You are absolutely 100% dead on, there is NO evidence Romo would make a positive difference. ZERO, ZIP, NONE... We have 13 years of no success as evidence as clear as evidence can be. For the first time in 20 years, we have something special going. But no, a select few fans and I suspect the owner/coach want to go back to yesteryear of complete failure.

I said it once and will say it again, those wanting to go back to Romo are enamored with failure. There is no other way of looking at it.

BS that is about as stupid as if gets. You put 13 years of failure on Romo? Hell go learn something about the ultimate team sport because it takes a team to win not 1 person. Placing it on Romo is stupid. Claiming coaches and owner as well as some fans want to go back to failure yet another stupid comment, really that is what they want? lol

 

[Doomsday101]

Again, if what we have is ALREADY working, why make the change?

Why put Dez back in the lineup? why put Lawrence back in the line Dallas was winning without them as well. You make the change based on is the player coming back better or not? I don't think Romo should return to the lineup go out and play poorly and still keep the job but if he is showing he is a better option then you damn right I go with the better option.

 

[Gabe]

BS that is about as stupid as if gets. You put 13 years of failure on Romo? Hell go learn something about the ultimate team sport because it takes a team to win not 1 person. Placing it on Romo is stupid. Claiming coaches and owner as well as some fans want to go back to failure yet another stupid comment, really that is what they want? lol

Absolutely it is what they want. Why else would they want to go back to failure? It is either that or individual above team which true Cowboy fans aren't like that right?

Trying to put Romo in to "improve" an already great thing going... Is about the equivalent of trying to trade Elliott thinking his replacement would have 800-900 yards at this point. Trading Elliott sounds dumb right?

 

[gambit187]

Ray Lewis is a complete thug.

Broaddus, you know, a guy plugged into the Cowboys organization who specifically analyzes this team says go with Romo

I'm sorry but why is he a Thug...I don't understand how people like yourself are still holding him accountable for something that happened in his early 20's especially when his two so called accomplices got off on "Self Defense". You forgot the people that were killed brought a gun to a knife fight....

 

[Gabe]

I'll also add, if Dak hits a big slump, let's say 3-4 games of multiple INTs... Maybe he goes 1-3 in his next 4 games. I'll be the first one here calling for a change and I'll be all for Romo getting one more shot so to speak. That's fair right?

 

[Doomsday101]

Absolutely it is what they want. Why else would they want to go back to failure? It is either that or individual above team which true Cowboy fans aren't like that right?

Trying to put Romo in to "improve" an already great thing going... Is about the equivalent of trying to trade Elliott thinking his replacement would have 800-900 yards at this point. Trading Elliott sounds dumb right?

They would put Romo in if they felt he gave more fire power to the offense. I love Dak I really do, I also saw when put in 3rd down and long too many drives stalled out in the last game. I don't say put Romo in and let him play no matter how he looks. Only way to judge when he may be ready is to witness him during practice which I don't get that privilege. If Romo does return and is not playing well I have no doubt he will be pulled. However claiming anyone who would support Romo returning to the lineup is people who want this team to fail is incorrect and pretty short sighted on your part.
I don’t think you ever put 1 player above the team, Tony will have to earn this and it will not be easy with fans such as yourself. Do you really think if Romo is put in and does poorly that Dak will all of a sudden not be able to play to the same level he is now? You are acting as if if Dak gets pulled there goes the season because he will never be able to replicate what he is doing and if that is the case then we all over rated Dak up to this stage.

 

[Gabe]

They would put Romo in if they felt he gave more fire power to the offense. I love Dak I really do, I also saw when put in 3rd down and long too many drives stalled out in the last game. I don't say put Romo in and let him play no matter how he looks. Only way to judge when he may be ready is to witness him during practice which I don't get that privilege. If Romo does return and is not playing well I have no doubt he will be pulled. However claiming anyone who would support Romo returning to the lineup is people who want this team to fail is incorrect and pretty short sighted on your part.
I don’t think you ever put 1 player above the team, Tony will have to earn this and it will not be easy with fans such as yourself. Do you really think if Romo is put in and does poorly that Dak will all of a sudden not be able to play to the same level he is now? You are acting as if if Dak gets pulled there goes the season because he will never be able to replicate what he is doing and if that is the case then we all over rated Dak up to this stage.

That's fine and if you want to be fair about this, let's also look at Romo's last game which included multiple INTs and 2 pick 6s. Do you want to see more of that as well? You point to Dak struggling on third down... Let's also look at what Romo did in his last appearance.

Im BY FAR not the only one saying you take Dak out and you disrupt what we have going. There is a very fine line between winning and losing in the NFL. Look at Carolina. Let me repeat again, what we have is ALREADY working!

 

[Super_Kazuya]

They're not going to make the call based off of perception of the masses.

I know you're a Cowboys fan mostly because you're a Dak fan, Gabe, and I think that's cool. But if you haven't done it yet, you ought to treat yourself to a Tony Romo highlight reel. There's a ton of them out there. He's a special QB in his own right.

"If you listen to the fans, you'll be sitting up there with them." - Buddy Ryan

 

[Doomsday101]

That's fine and if you want to be fair about this, let's also look at Romo's last game which included multiple INTs and 2 pick 6s. Do you want to see more of that as well? You point to Dak struggling on third down... Let's also look at what Romo did in his last appearance.

Im BY FAR not the only one saying you take Dak out and you disrupt what we have going. There is a very fine line between winning and losing in the NFL. Look at Carolina. Let me repeat again, what we have is ALREADY working!

Yes Romo had a bad game vs a great Carolina defense when the reality is Romo should not have been playing at all. Dallas rushed him back in an attempt to save the season, playing vs Miami and then a short turn around vs Carolina.

 

[Gabe]

If you look at Brady/Bledsoe, Dak is playing much better than Brady... Bledsoe also had more playoff wins than Tony Romo. Were the Patriots foolish?

If anything we should be trying to emulate them.