RBs 3 and later

[xwalker]

The top 2 RBs have been discussed ad nauseum.

The following are my comments on #3 thru #9 (based on Brugler's rankings).

I'm not sure if there is much difference in the probability of success between any of them.
- I would really like Miller but the fumbles worry me.
- I don't really see a need to draft one in the 2nd round due to a lack of distinction.

• Zach Charbonnet
  • Big.
  • Safe pick. Solid runner, receiver, blocker.
  • Lacks great athleticism.
  • Runs like a lightweight Fullback.
• 
  
• Devon Achane
  • Small. Very good receiver.
  • Mini version of Gibbs
• 
  
• Tyjae Spears
  • TD machine with 21 in 2022.
  • Good vision. Quick with good balance.
  • OK receiver and good effort pass blocker.
• 
  
• Tank Bigsby
  • Questionable vision.
  • Bounces many plays to the outside.
  • Medium size.
  • Not a good pass blocker.
• 
  
• Roschon Johnson
  • Big.
  • Good pass blocker and receiver.
  • Not a dynamic athlete.
• 
  
• Kendre Miller
  • Good size. Largest wingspan & 2nd youngest of the top 9.
  • One of the more dynamic runners of the 210+ RBs.
  • Had fumbling issues.
  • Upside as a blocker and receiver but needs development in both areas.
• 
  
• Israel Abanikanda
  • Really good measurables except small hands.
  • Faster 10-yard than Gibbs despite an extra 17 pounds.
  • Had fumbling issues.
  • Touchdown machine with 21 in 2022.
  • Good size, good speed (Better 10-yard than Gibbs).
  • Youngest of the top 9.
  • Limited receiver and blocker.
  • Had some nagging injury issues (hamsting, etc.).
  • Yards after contact stat is poor.

Rank​	Player​	College​	HT​	WT​	Forty​	Ten​	Arm​	Hand​	Wingspan​	Age​
1​	Bijan Robinson​	Texas​	5110​	215​	4.46​	1.54​	31-1/8​	9-3/4​	74-3/4​	21.24​
2​	Jahmyr Gibbs​	Alabama​	5091​	199​	4.36​	1.51​	30-1/2​	9-1/4​	74-1/8​	21.10​
3​	Zach Charbonnet​	UCLA​	6003​	214​	4.53​	1.53​	32​	9-7/8​	75-5/8​	22.30​
4​	Devon Achane​	Texas A&M​	5084​	188​	4.32​	1.49​	29​	8-1/2​	69-1/8​	21.54​
5​	Tyjae Spears​	Tulane​	5095​	201​	4.52​	1.57​	30-3/4​	10​	74-1/8​	21.87​
6​	Tank Bigsby​	Auburn​	5115​	210​	4.45​	1.56​	32​	9-1/2​	76-5/8​	21.66​
7​	Roschon Johnson​	Texas​	6002​	219​	4.58​	1.54​	32​	9-5/8​	76-7/8​	22.24​
8​	Kendre Miller​	TCU​	5111​	215​	DNP​	DNP​	32-3/8​	9-3/8​	78-1/2​	20.88​
9​	Israel Abanikanda​	Pittsburgh​	5101​	216​	4.44​	1.50​	32​	8-1/4​	76​	20.56​

 

[Hardline]

Kendre Miller is my choice after the obvious first two and Charbonnet.

 

[xwalker]

Kendre Miller is my choice after the obvious first two and Charbonnet.

At #58?

 

[Hardline]

At #58?

No. I would take Gibbs at 26 before taking a RB at 58.

 

[Carson]

I like Izzy. He won’t be 21 until October so he has a lot of room for growth

 

[Mr_437]

Cowboys can get a RB in any round it just depends on what they want. I like some guys who should be available in the 5th round, and due to the surplus how many guys drafted later would go a round or two higher in a normal RB draft?.

I'm just waiting to see who they pick because there's too many guys to be stuck on one. This is a cluster RB group. Charbonnet, Spears, Miller and Abanikanda are a cluster of RBs I like on this list.

 

[rambo2]

At #58?

90

 

[locked&loaded]

where are you getting Abanikandas yards after contact stats? watching his highlights, i disagree with your conclusion. i see a tough runner who always falls forward and who runs through arm tackles

after a quick google, all i could find was an article from sept 28th (early season) stating:

"Abanikanda has racked up 279 yards after contact this season, a strong 3.36 yards after contact per attempt, and that’s come in the wake of four touchdown runs against Rhode Island in which he wasn’t touched. There’s been an elusive element to Abanikanda’s game, an area in which he worked heavily upon in the offseason, and he’s forced 20 missed tackles. And with his blend of speed and power, he’s produced 12 runs of 10+ yards and five runs of 15+ yards."

 

[fivetwos]

I want a back, maybe two, and as I study these later round guys, while every player has flaws, I’d be less upset with taking one of the top guys high.

There really does appear to be a clear drop after Bijon/Gibbs to whoever is considered to be next.

 

[Floatyworm]

I like Izzy. He won’t be 21 until October so he has a lot of room for growth

.....he is being dogged for not getting tough yards after contact though....kind of like Zeke the last couple of years. We just need some fresh legs that can take it the distance.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The top 2 RBs have been discussed ad nauseum.

The following are my comments on #3 thru #9 (based on Brugler's rankings).

I'm not sure if there is much difference in the probability of success between any of them.
- I would really like Miller but the fumbles worry me.
- I don't really see a need to draft one in the 2nd round due to a lack of distinction.

• Zach Charbonnet
  • Big.
  • Safe pick. Solid runner, receiver, blocker.
  • Lacks great athleticism.
  • Runs like a lightweight Fullback.
• 
  
• Devon Achane
  • Small. Very good receiver.
  • Mini version of Gibbs
• 
  
• Tyjae Spears
  • TD machine with 21 in 2022.
  • Good vision. Quick with good balance.
  • OK receiver and good effort pass blocker.
• 
  
• Tank Bigsby
  • Questionable vision.
  • Bounces many plays to the outside.
  • Medium size.
  • Not a good pass blocker.
• 
  
• Roschon Johnson
  • Big.
  • Good pass blocker and receiver.
  • Not a dynamic athlete.
• 
  
• Kendre Miller
  • Good size. Largest wingspan & 2nd youngest of the top 9.
  • One of the more dynamic runners of the 210+ RBs.
  • Had fumbling issues.
  • Upside as a blocker and receiver but needs development in both areas.
• 
  
• Israel Abanikanda
  • Really good measurables except small hands.
  • Faster 10-yard than Gibbs despite an extra 17 pounds.
  • Had fumbling issues.
  • Touchdown machine with 21 in 2022.
  • Good size, good speed (Better 10-yard than Gibbs).
  • Youngest of the top 9.
  • Limited receiver and blocker.
  • Had some nagging injury issues (hamsting, etc.).
  • Yards after contact stat is poor.

Rank​	Player​	College​	HT​	WT​	Forty​	Ten​	Arm​	Hand​	Wingspan​	Age​
1​	Bijan Robinson​	Texas​	5110​	215​	4.46​	1.54​	31-1/8​	9-3/4​	74-3/4​	21.24​
2​	Jahmyr Gibbs​	Alabama​	5091​	199​	4.36​	1.51​	30-1/2​	9-1/4​	74-1/8​	21.10​
3​	Zach Charbonnet​	UCLA​	6003​	214​	4.53​	1.53​	32​	9-7/8​	75-5/8​	22.30​
4​	Devon Achane​	Texas A&M​	5084​	188​	4.32​	1.49​	29​	8-1/2​	69-1/8​	21.54​
5​	Tyjae Spears​	Tulane​	5095​	201​	4.52​	1.57​	30-3/4​	10​	74-1/8​	21.87​
6​	Tank Bigsby​	Auburn​	5115​	210​	4.45​	1.56​	32​	9-1/2​	76-5/8​	21.66​
7​	Roschon Johnson​	Texas​	6002​	219​	4.58​	1.54​	32​	9-5/8​	76-7/8​	22.24​
8​	Kendre Miller​	TCU​	5111​	215​	DNP​	DNP​	32-3/8​	9-3/8​	78-1/2​	20.88​
9​	Israel Abanikanda​	Pittsburgh​	5101​	216​	4.44​	1.50​	32​	8-1/4​	76​	20.56​

Kendra Miller in the 3rd or 4th is by far the best choice than any back in the first or 2nd.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No. I would take Gibbs at 26 before taking a RB at 58.

This on Gibbs. Would never draft a back like that in the first. 2nd round talent.

Gibbs also might struggle as a three-down back. He isn't the best at breaking tackles and when running through the tackles he seems to hesitate sometimes. His physical tools are there, but he'll have to get better at running between the tackles as he could turn into the Cowboys' workhorse depending on what happens with Tony Pollard next season.

He isn't going to come in and be a power back

 

[Aven8]

I like Miller a lot. When he couldn’t suit up for the NC game because of injury I knew TCU had no shot.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I want a back, maybe two, and as I study these later round guys, while every player has flaws, I’d be less upset with taking one of the top guys high.

There really does appear to be a clear drop after Bijon/Gibbs to whoever is considered to be next.

I could see us double dipping, especially of we take Gibbs or Achane in the top 60. There will be very good between the OT runners in the later rounds, even UDFA's (Hull). I could easily see our top 2 2024 HB's coming out of this draft

 

[speedkilz88]

where are you getting Abanikandas yards after contact stats? watching his highlights, i disagree with your conclusion. i see a tough runner who always falls forward and who runs through arm tackles

after a quick google, all i could find was an article from sept 28th (early season) stating:

"Abanikanda has racked up 279 yards after contact this season, a strong 3.36 yards after contact per attempt, and that’s come in the wake of four touchdown runs against Rhode Island in which he wasn’t touched. There’s been an elusive element to Abanikanda’s game, an area in which he worked heavily upon in the offseason, and he’s forced 20 missed tackles. And with his blend of speed and power, he’s produced 12 runs of 10+ yards and five runs of 15+ yards."

The "book" on Abananakanda is that he beat up the sisters of the poor like Rhode Island but had issues against the higher division teams.

 

[beware_d-ware]

I don't see it at all with a lot of these comparisons.

Bigsby is a bouncer with poor vision? His whole game is keeping the offense on schedule.

Izzy has poor yardage after contact? Shoot, we've got the stats in this thread above.

Achane is a mini version of Gibbs? Kind of, but there is a lot of lateral agility to Gibbs' game that Achane lacks. He's much more straight-linish.

 

[locked&loaded]

The "book" on Abananakanda is that he beat up the sisters of the poor like Rhode Island but had issues against the higher division teams.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/israel-abanikanda-1/gamelog/2022

Time for a new book!

 

[eromeopolk]

• Zach Charbonnet
  • Big.
  • Started for Michigan as a freshman
  • Started for UCLA after transfer immediately
  • Safe pick. Solid runner, receiver, blocker.
  • Lacks great athleticism.
  • Runs like a lightweight Fullback.
  • Dad is from LA and something about Louisiana men making Pro Athletes.
  • Big player that has played in big games in big conferences - Will McClay likes these type players
• Tyjae Spears
  • TD machine with 21 in 2022.
  • Good vision. Quick with good balance.
  • OK receiver and good effort pass blocker.
  • Plays bigger than his size. Looks bigger than his size.
  • Plays total RB football
  • Plays big in big games. Fits Big Time Players Make Big Time Plays In Big Time Games.
  • Reminds every scout of a poor man's Emmitt Smith.

 

[J12B]

I like Izzy. He won’t be 21 until October so he has a lot of room for growth

I like Izzy in the 5th round.

 

[Pass2Run]

I'd add Dewayne McBride to the list.