Read-option quarterbacks are fair game on fakes, NFL says

[Apollo Creed]

How many times was RG3 injured on the R/O. I am more worried about him in the pocket taking a blind side hit rather then running the ball out of bounds himself with the blocking set up for him.

This tough talk has cracked me up for a while. You are going to have DE's chasing QB's 7 yards behind the LOS, after he has shown he doesn't have the ball, and RB's gashing those defenses for 200 yards a game.

Supposedly this is what the Ravens did in the Superbowl, but Kap was touched 3 times, touched not knocked down, and the 49ers nearly made the biggest comeback in Superbowl history.

It's all about how often you're exposing your franchise QB to hits - and in your case, the entire hope of your franchise is tied to the health of RGIII.

QBs getting blindsided or a guy completely whiffing on a block happen very rarely. When you run the option 5-10 times a game, now you're opening the door for something bad to happen.

Now that the NFL has basically green-lighted QBs getting obliterated I guarantee you'll see a downturn in how often teams use the read option.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Your going to be justifying why teams shouldn't go after RGIII all year long. LOL. Fans want players to go out of their way to destroy RGIII on a hit but the coaches will be smart. They'll choose when to lay him out or when to just let him be.

There really isn't a reason to justify. Going after the QB is part of football, has been and always will be.

Cheap shotting a QB 8 yards behind the LOS when he doesn't have the ball will bring flags, fines, suspensions and we'll see some RB's break the all time rushing record in a game mark this year.

 

[riverside4]

Ravens and Broncos tonight, not 49ers and Packers.

Dam my bad thanks

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

It's all about how often you're exposing your franchise QB to hits - and in your case, the entire hope of your franchise is tied to the health of RGIII.

QBs getting blindsided or a guy completely whiffing on a block happen very rarely. When you run the option 5-10 times a game, now you're opening the door for something bad to happen.

Now that the NFL has basically green-lighted QBs getting obliterated I guarantee you'll see a downturn in how often teams use the read option.

You expose your QB to a hit everytime he drops back in the pocket. Where did Tony Romo's 2010 season end? In the pocket

Where did Carson Palmer's career go south? In the pocket. Why didn't Tom Brady play in 2008? A hit in the pocket.

Where as with the R/O, IF the QB keeps it (that is the option part, and he won't be keeping it if DE's are chasing after him) he has blockers set up down field.

The NFL didn't "Green light" hitting the QB in a cheap way. Read the whole article man

 

[Hostile]

Dam my bad thanks

Happens to all of us man. No big deal.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

How many times was RG3 injured on the R/O. I am more worried about him in the pocket taking a blind side hit rather then running the ball out of bounds himself with the blocking set up for him.

realistically speaking, hits add up and take their toll. it's why RBs have extremely short shelf lives and odds are, if RG3 takes the pounding he took last year, he won't make it through 16 games, and the odds will only increase that he doesn't the following season if it continues again the next year.

If the Commanders use RG3 the same way, I suspect he'll take more and likely even bigger hits then he took last year and what the Commanders are gonna have soon is a 25 year old QB with the wear and tear of a 30 year old QB.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

realistically speaking, hits add up and take their toll. it's why RBs have extremely short shelf lives and odds are, if RG3 takes the pounding he took last year, he won't make it through 16 games, and the odds will only increase that he doesn't the following season if it continues again the next year.

If the Commanders use RG3 the same way, I suspect he'll take more and likely even bigger hits then he took last year and what the Commanders are gonna have soon is a 25 year old QB with the wear and tear of a 30 year old QB.

The "pounding" he took last year was generally in the pocket and the injuries on scrambles out of conventional pass plays. That is how the concussion happened vs Atlanta, the injury vs Baltimore (scrambling for a first down out of a pass play) and the injury vs Seattle.

If he is stupid enough not to go down, yea he'll take a shot. That shot can also occur in the pocket.

The of this article is that people seem to think the NFL has said "there is no more roughing the passer penalty" which simply isn't the case. And if the adjustment DC's have made is to just go after the QB, well you can see what the 49ers did vs the Falcons (in coming back) and vs the Ravens (in almost coming back). Alfred Morris will be a 2,000 yard back because RG3 will just hand him the ball and there will be a huge lane for him

If anything, this strategy by defenses makes RG3 even SAFER, because he won't be keeping the ball nearly as much. Morris/Helu/Thompson will be 20 yards down field while a DE is chasing him 7 yards behind the LOS

We'll see how long that lasts

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Of course, and that one hit can happen in the pocket.

Like with Carson Palmer. Or with Tony Romo. Or with Tom Brady. All had season ending injuries in the pocket

Convince your self of what you want, but the truth is Tom Brady really suffered 1 injury that caused him to miss a season. Eli Manning has never missed a game. Peyton went 10 seasons without missing a game, Drew Brees since 2004, has missed 2 games. Pocket QBs are far more durable, than the ones that log a bunch of running attempts. I could give you some statistics about games played by QBs who log "x" amount of rushing attempts, but it's really obvious to everyone but you that more hits equals more opportunities to get hurt.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Convince your self of what you want, but the truth is Tom Brady really suffered 1 injury that caused him to miss a season. Eli Manning has never missed a game. Peyton went 10 seasons without missing a game, Drew Brees since 2004, has missed 2 games. Pocket QBs are far more durable, than the ones that log a bunch of running attempts. I could give you some statistics about games played by QBs who log "x" amount of rushing attempts, but it's really obvious to everyone but you that more hits equals more opportunities to get hurt.

Down goes Frazier.

 

[Hoods]

You expose your QB to a hit everytime he drops back in the pocket. Where did Tony Romo's 2010 season end? In the pocket

Where did Carson Palmer's career go south? In the pocket. Why didn't Tom Brady play in 2008? A hit in the pocket.

Where as with the R/O, IF the QB keeps it (that is the option part, and he won't be keeping it if DE's are chasing after him) he has blockers set up down field.

The NFL didn't "Green light" hitting the QB in a cheap way. Read the whole article man

Commanders fans love this weak argument. The serious injuries you mentioned were sustained during long, otherwise injury-free careers. RG3 was injured his first season (and was injured before in college). I'll take the odds of the pocket passers.

 

[Califan007]

Refs have already said QBs who obviously don't have the ball will make hitting them out of bounds.

So 12 months of rabid film study, an entire offseason of defensive schemes reworked specifically to defeat the read option, will all be rendered useless by a QB who throws up his hands lol...Brilliant strategy.

 

[Califan007]

Commanders fans love this weak argument. The serious injuries you mentioned were sustained during long, otherwise injury-free careers. RG3 was injured his first season (and was injured before in college). I'll take the odds of the pocket passers.

And was injured while NOT running the read option. Which means he would have the same injury had he been a pocket passer. His injury was irrelevant to being a read option QB. Not at all hard to understand.

 

[Primetime42]

lol @ the homer saying this actually makes RG3 safer

 

[Califan007]

Convince your self of what you want, but the truth is Tom Brady really suffered 1 injury that caused him to miss a season. Eli Manning has never missed a game. Peyton went 10 seasons without missing a game, Drew Brees since 2004, has missed 2 games. Pocket QBs are far more durable, than the ones that log a bunch of running attempts. I could give you some statistics about games played by QBs who log "x" amount of rushing attempts, but it's really obvious to everyone but you that more hits equals more opportunities to get hurt.

What about Wilson, Newton and Kaep? How many games have those "running" QBs missed due to injury so far?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Called Mr. Ware........Mr. Ware you are wanted at the QB.

 

[Teague31]

Paging Bruce Carter

 

[Califan007]

Called Mr. Ware........Mr. Ware you are wanted at the QB.

You might have to give him a GPS...he couldn't find it last year

 

[NinePointOh]

You expose your QB to a hit everytime he drops back in the pocket. Where did Tony Romo's 2010 season end? In the pocket

Where did Carson Palmer's career go south? In the pocket. Why didn't Tom Brady play in 2008? A hit in the pocket.

No duh -- because that's where most QBs are most of the time, especially pocket passers like all of the guys you named. A hit is a hit is a hit, no matter where on the field it occurs. The fact that RG3 happened to get injured multiple times in the pocket rather than downfield last year should hardly be reassuring.

Where as with the R/O, IF the QB keeps it (that is the option part, and he won't be keeping it if DE's are chasing after him) he has blockers set up down field.

That makes zero sense. QBs have five blockers protecting them in the pocket, but they still get hit. And once the QB is running downfield on a read option, he's no different from any other ball carrier -- and where do running backs and receivers get injured most often? Certainly not in the pocket. There's nothing magical about being a QB that makes you immune to hits downfield.

 

[30yrheel]

Has rgknee dropped back, read the defense, and made a throw yet? Without rolling to one side of the field and having more than one read?
He's a likable dude, but I hope he gets blasted running thatt college offense.

 

[Hoofbite]

Still, that doesn’t mean defenders get unlimited free shots on quarterbacks on all read-option plays. If it’s obvious that the quarterback doesn’t have the ball anymore, he can’t get hit: The rules say that if a defender drills a quarterback after he has handed off or pitched the ball and isn’t taking a running posture anymore, it’s unnecessary roughness.

“If the quarterback is out of the pocket, he’s clearly out of the play, he cannot be unnecessarily contacted,” Blandino said.

The officials will have a tough job determining where the line is drawn between playing tough, physical defense on read-option quarterbacks, and unnecessarily contacting a quarterback who doesn’t have the ball anymore. It’s probably safe to say that the Packers and the 49ers won’t agree about where that line should be drawn on Sunday.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...irms-read-option-qbs-can-be-hit-like-runners/

I've never seen a QB actively partaking in the read option or any sort of pitch fake with a RB who would ever be considered, "out of the play".