Read was the sacrificial lamb?

[Doomsday101]

Bingo! I just wish he was fired earlier but the only problem would have been who do you replace him with? In my opinion you could have gone to any of the local high schools and would not have done any worse.

Can I hope for Coach Joe? :laugh2:

 

[adbutcher]

Can I hope for Coach Joe? :laugh2:

Yes. Even Joe the plumber would have been better.

 

[Bach]

Our players don't give their all, work hard, or are disciplined or focused. They DO NOT fear or respect the HC and that makes it tough on the asst coaches to do their jobs effectively.. WP is the root of our teams problems..

Wrong. Jerry is the root of our teams problems.

He went back to the same playbook he used in hiring guys like Gailey and Campo, and then undermining them which helped lead to the players not respecting the HC.

 

[adbutcher]

Wrong. Jerry is the root of our teams problems.

He went back to the same playbook he used in hiring guys like Gailey and Campo, and then undermining them which helped lead to the players not respecting the HC.

You are right. Jerruh is the debil.

 

[Bach]

You are right. Jerruh is the debil.

Wade is the debil. He forced his way here, refused to hire several assistants making Jerry have to do it for him and then signed a bunch of malcontents causing a total lack of chemistry in the locker room. Now he's holding a gun to Jerry's head forcing him to keep him here. I've never seen anything like it.

 

[dbair1967]

What about Stew and Houck?

The Clown Wade Phillips promised to be different from now on and keeps his developmentally disadvantaged Stew and his decrepid Houck?

Defense, over all, stunk. OK, undereachieved.

These two clowns deserve the boot if Wade seeks to legitimize his reprieve and get one more year to prove himself. With the same cast, essentially.

Jerra sure looks like he's aging fast with these nonsensical deciions re keeping a loser as HC.

Is this a joke too? Are you serious? Did you think he was fired without cause?

You want special teams to at the LEAST be a neutral part of your team, can you say that here? Our special teams cost us 2 or 3 games this yr, and probably cost us a couple games or so last yr. They've been atrocious for two yrs, how much more of Read did you need to see? Other than Folk fg's and Felix Jones' return for TD, the ST have done very little. (you might add in Polk's blocked punt for a safety, although that wasnt a critical play)

 

[zeromaster]

Wade is the debil. He forced his way here, refused to hire several assistants making Jerry have to do it for him and then signed a bunch of malcontents causing a total lack of chemistry in the locker room. Now he's holding a gun to Jerry's head forcing him to keep him here. I've never seen anything like it.

Awesome use of sarcasm.

 

[chinch]

better late then never (although ST cost us the steelers game, probably AZ too and obviously the playoffs).

ps - sacrificial implies he was wrongly fired. this clown should have been fired months and months ago (should never have been hired).

What about Stew and Houck?

The Clown Wade Phillips promised to be different from now on and keeps his developmentally disadvantaged Stew and his decrepid Houck?

Defense, over all, stunk. OK, undereachieved.

These two clowns deserve the boot if Wade seeks to legitimize his reprieve and get one more year to prove himself. With the same cast, essentially.

Jerra sure looks like he's aging fast with these nonsensical deciions re keeping a loser as HC.

 

[Funxva]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm...lamb.

Mmmm Lamb with Mint sauce!

 

[cowboyjoe]

people wake up, thats whom wade is, he just fired read because he was forced too, have you seen him do anything else

all wade is, is good talk till he is forced to get off of his lazy rear end and do something

wade just said what he said in press conference to appease the fans, etc, to get you off of his back, do you think anything really has changed?

have you seen any players cut or released yet, no

or even traded, no

wade doesnt do anything till he is forced to do it, period

just like last year, he kept saying, everything is ok, dont worry, now he says you cant say everything is ok and not do anything, have you seen him really do anything yet, no

thats the way good ole wade operates, till its almost too late or too late

till jerry jones wakes up and does something, this team will go nowhere

thats the bottom line, the cowboys have done nothing really since jimmy johnson left,

and by that i mean jimmy johnson had total control, he could trade players, cut them, release them etc, adn to a point jerry jones wanted to be the face of the franchise, now that jerry jones is, is anything as far as discipline, focus on this team really done

look at the practices, you dont see anymore really hard hitting, focus, agility drills, making players run laps when they mess up, leaders on the team like haley, aikman, gogan, irvin making the players toe the mark, when they get out of line, NO, you dont see that, that is what is wrong with this team

 

[cowboyjoe]

good ole wade has had a whole week now to put his plan into focus, and start getting things fixed, have you really seen anything yet, NO

and you wont till good ole wade is forced into it, wade is too laid back and lazy

 

[Doomsday101]

people wake up, thats whom wade is, he just fired read because he was forced too, have you seen him do anything else

all wade is, is good talk till he is forced to get off of his lazy rear end and do something

wade just said what he said in press conference to appease the fans, etc, to get you off of his back, do you think anything really has changed?

have you seen any players cut or released yet, no

or even traded, no

wade doesnt do anything till he is forced to do it, period

just like last year, he kept saying, everything is ok, dont worry, now he says you cant say everything is ok and not do anything, have you seen him really do anything yet, no

thats the way good ole wade operates, till its almost too late or too late

till jerry jones wakes up and does something, this team will go nowhere

thats the bottom line, the cowboys have done nothing really since jimmy johnson left,

and by that i mean jimmy johnson had total control, he could trade players, cut them, release them etc, adn to a point jerry jones wanted to be the face of the franchise, now that jerry jones is, is anything as far as discipline, focus on this team really done

look at the practices, you dont see anymore really hard hitting, focus, agility drills, making players run laps when they mess up, leaders on the team like haley, aikman, gogan, irvin making the players toe the mark, when they get out of line, NO, you dont see that, that is what is wrong with this team

Most moves are not even going to take place until later in the off-season. Wow a week has gone by and we have not starting cutting players or other coaches besides Read? wow

 

[cowboyjoe]

and while i am on this subject, lets look at another thing, everyone attacking Jason Garrett.

if you remember in 2007, it was said that the teams caught up with the defense, if you rememmber in 2007, it was the offense that was firepower

then good ole wade after jerry jones blew up after the ram game, good ole wade had to work on the defense, you saw the results in the tampa bay game,

now whom says what can be installed in the offense, defense, and special teams, good ole wade,

think about that, then in the philly game in phily, whom wanted to punt on a certain play and looked confused and lost on the sidelines, and whom called for the cowboys to go for it, it was Garrett that said Go for the first down, not good ole wade,

so think about that, and remember garrett said he didnt want to undermine good ole wade, but he had to in that phily game, it was embarrasing

tilll good ole wade is forced into something, he sits back and thinks everything is ok, and again, has good ole wade after a week done anything yet, NO, i rest my case

 

[cowboyjoe]

Doomsday, good ole wade said it will take time for him to implement his system to get things going, to give him time,

My point is, he is taking his sweet old time, like he always does.

you can wait and wait and wait, let the other good coaches get taken up

as you probably read, garrett was looking at the Lions, but he backed out, now cleveland and Denver is probably looking at garrett

While Sherman is being loooked at for head coach.

Have you seen good ole wade hire a special teams coach yet, no

Thats my point, good ole wade takes his sweet time, just like last year, till he is forced to do something

 

[Doomsday101]

Doomsday, good ole wade said it will take time for him to implement his system to get things going, to give him time,

My point is, he is taking his sweet old time, like he always does.

you can wait and wait and wait, let the other good coaches get taken up

as you probably read, garrett was looking at the Lions, but he backed out, now cleveland and Denver is probably looking at garrett

While Sherman is being loooked at for head coach.

Have you seen good ole wade hire a special teams coach yet, no

Thats my point, good ole wade takes his sweet time, just like last year, till he is forced to do something

Garrett was looking at the Lions? No the Lions approched him. Right now 1 week has gone by no team is hiring anyone right now they are looking and waiting until the season is over teams are interviewing but with some teams with coaches still in the playoffs who could be considered prospect teams are not running around hiring anyone. This takes place every year and the vast majority of coaches are not going to get hired until Feb.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Is this a joke too? Are you serious? Did you think he was fired without cause?

You want special teams to at the LEAST be a neutral part of your team, can you say that here? Our special teams cost us 2 or 3 games this yr, and probably cost us a couple games or so last yr. They've been atrocious for two yrs, how much more of Read did you need to see? Other than Folk fg's and Felix Jones' return for TD, the ST have done very little. (you might add in Polk's blocked punt for a safety, although that wasnt a critical play)

before you twist them any more than necessary . . . sacrificial lamb DOES NOT IMPLY (though you do infer) that Read was innocent.

The term is merely something sacrificed for the common good.
The lamb might imply purity to you but a cursory look at a hardbound dictionary and an online dictionary indicate no positive or negative implied re the lamb.
Just something or someone who is sacrificed for deeds of others.
Start untwisting them . . .

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

Read was hardly "sacrificial"! You make it sound like he didn't deserve to be relieved of his duties! As far as Stew is concerned, he's Wade's "understudy" so he'll probably will only be fired with Wade! Houck...well, I'm not impressed with him so far during this tour of duty but his "skins on the wall" gives him a l'il leeway, IMO!

 

[lockster]

I bet Avezzano would get those guys to tackle!!! I hate to see them getting it from him if they didn't. Let's cut Stewart and beg Capers or someone like that. I'm all for all the mean *** coaches we can get on our roster. Maybe we need to make sure they have at least one assault on their record in order to be considered a candidate for team from now on.

 

[28 Joker]

Wade is the debil. He forced his way here, refused to hire several assistants making Jerry have to do it for him and then signed a bunch of malcontents causing a total lack of chemistry in the locker room. Now he's holding a gun to Jerry's head forcing him to keep him here. I've never seen anything like it.

Good post. Who did Wade want coaching the offensive line? Mike Solari

Wade didn't give Jason Garrett $ 3 million dollars to run the entire offense and make him "associate head coach", "in waiting". What other coach in the NFL has his replacement on staff, making more money than he does? Your head coach deserves to pick his staff if he is going to take all the heat for the failure of the team.

A defensive coach really depends on a capable offensive coordinator, just like an offensive coach needs a very good defensive coordinator. Wade was depending on Jason Garrett this year to take care of the offense while he coached the defense and special teams up. When Phillips took over the defense, the results speak for themselves. When Phillips took control of the special teams, they were much better. He couldn't help that McBriar was hurt.



It is clear as day. Tony Sporano was more valuable than many of the fans knew. He was a good offensive line coach, and he brought some fire to the team. He knew the players on the offensive line. He knew their strengths and weaknesses, and he probably made some good in-game adjustments as far as the protections go. He coordinated the running game, and having a Parcells disciple on the sidelines probably made Garrett a better coach. I have read where Sporano helped Garrett see the "big picture" on offense. The Garrett I saw last year, wasn't the same Garrett I saw this year.

Garrett must have channeled his inner Tony Sporano before the Packers and second Commanders game, because the game plans were excellent.

Neverthelss, Phillips had a coordinator that couldn't manage critical games on offense, and it cost the team dearly. That is basic, fundamental coaching. You know what, when your defense has the game in hand, like the second Giants game (14-3), don't drop Romo back into the endzone and risk a sack or fumble after the protection has been very leaky. This is just one example of many. Garrett's lack of offensive game management at Pittsburgh was ridiculous. Watching Tony Romo get pounded 17 times, at Arizona, while constantly holding the ball and looking for the big play was ridiculous. Dallas couldn't block four guys. Marion Barber 8 carries; Felix Jones 0. How can anyone defend this stuff? Forget the problems with the philosophy and structure of the offense. He couldn't manage games when they needed to not be lost. The offense was one big turnover machine.

Did Wade Phillips have the power to hold Garrett accountable for the offense's performance? How can anyone truely know? I do know that no defensive head coach, in their right mind, would just stand there and allow Jason Garrett to let Tony Romo throw floating picks on deep fade routes twice while in your own territory, especially when you are in a tough, defensive game and in horrible weather.

If Phillips did have total power over Garrett, and he didn't act, it's on him. However, Jason Garrett was the $ 3 million dollar "Red Headed Genius", and the "next head coach". $ 3 million dollars tells me that Garrett had enormous power and total control of the offense. He was "associate head coach". The organization put way too much faith in him. He still needed some help.

Who did Jerry turn to before he picked Felix? Who was he consulting in the war room? What other offensive coordinator is even in the war room? Again, Wade wants Solari; Garrett gets his guy.

That move alone tells me Phillips had some limitations in his power over Jason Garrett.

Either, Jerry needs to give Phillips an extention and let him hire Mike Solari and a guy like Al Saunders, or he needs to let Phillips go. Taking Phillips to the "woodshed" and defending Garrett in public is hypocritical, imo. Your offense failed you, not your defense. If you are going to hold the head coach accountable and give him heat, let him pick his own offensive coordinator. What other franchise did this to their head coach? It's called dysfunction. You reap what you sow.

It's pretty obvious that Phillips doesn't need Pacman on this team. No matter who coaches this team, you better get Terrell Owens the heck out of here, because the damage has been done. Good luck winning anything with that selfish player. His behavior is eratic. He throws daggers and roses, and the daggers are killing this team.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

As far as Stew is concerned, he's Wade's "understudy" so he'll probably will only be fired with Wade!

I think it was mostly Jerra's ego at work in not letting go of Stew and to admit to hiring an inept DC.

To keep Wade and Stew is madness. Madness I tell you!
It's like living in bizarro world: "You be bad coaches of Cowboys Dallas. Stay at work and be bad."

I cannot imagine Jerra going into this Looney Toon World of keeping incompetents as HC and DC.