Real story behind Washington and Snyder selling team

[VaqueroTD]

I consider this Cowboys because it’s our rival and some Jerry Jones stuff in the article but if mods feel it’s NFL zone, feel free….

Great article on ESPN about the Gruden dismissal which led to the Snyder team sale.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...dan-snyder-demise-washington-commanders-owner

3 suspects on Gruden email to Washington GM Bruce Allen leak:

• The Commish, Gruden felt there was a vendetta against him. Reinforced by his relationship with Al Davis who also was suspicious of NFL Commishes, and thought that Rozelle was the one who rejected his trade for Jon Elway. Gruden once reprimanded for a comment about refs being unfair and had to meet with Madden and Fisher at NFL Office but didn’t show. Apparently, Sean Payton told him he was only coach who was stupid enough to pay his fine for pandmc days.
• Snyder, probably most likely person and what led to his dismissal. He thought he could divert attention away from his own investigation. Leaked it same time as his final hearing was coming. Was close to Jay-Z’s PR Firm which had done same thing with leaks on MLB execs during A-Rod’s lawsuit and Gruden’s lawyers found that the reporters who published the leaks all had history of good PR article for the firm.. Had a conversation with NFL where his lawyers showed unsavory communications and other NFL owners referred to it as blackmail. Snyder also knew that Gruden had disrespected the Commish many times and Goodell wasn’t happy with Gruden and thought it might get him back in good graces and help NFL appear like they were solving social issues brought up by Kaepernick. Snyder also hated Bruce Allen and thought it would tarnish him since he received the email.
• NFL Players Union Chief, Smith. He was facing a vote on his leadership the exact same day of the leak and apparently also had a good relationship with Jay-Z’s PR Firm that many suspected of giving the leak to the press.

Have to read the article, there is a lot more! But general consensus seems to be Snyder did it and that if he hadn’t, he would still have a team. Apparently the NFL investigation into Washington was originally done with collaboration between Snyder and Goodell for least impact possible. But Snyder started pushing buttons even threatening to attend an owners meeting he was banned from. Jerry Jones was the only owner who had any sway with Snyder, and the other owners had him convince Snyder not to attend. Then DC started getting involved with hearings. These events and the bad publicity with the Gruden leak, and the blackmail meeting from Snyder lawyers to NFL lawyers pushed the owners over the edge and they decided to kick him out, Gruden is convinced that Goodell did it and suing, and there is some suspicious stuff pointing his way, but end rational argument is why would he even consider publishing it knowing it would smear the NFL’s reputation no matter what. Snyder is the one most guilty of being a hothead with a Napoleon complex.

Quick note, Commanders are definitely going to be competitive again. Story mentions that Gruden would talk with his brother about his time in Washington and apparently on NFL Draft Day, Snyder would walk in off his yacht and tell them who to draft, overriding all coaches and GMs. Snyder is the wanna-be Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones is the wanna-be Al Davis. They’re all connected. ~cue Xfiles music

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I consider this Cowboys because it’s our rival and some Jerry Jones stuff in the article but if mods feel it’s NFL zone, feel free….

Great article on ESPN about the Gruden dismissal which led to the Snyder team sale.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...dan-snyder-demise-washington-commanders-owner

3 suspects on Gruden email to Washington GM Bruce Allen leak:

• The Commish, Gruden felt there was a vendetta against him. Reinforced by his relationship with Al Davis who also was suspicious of NFL Commishes, and thought that Rozelle was the one who rejected his trade for Jon Elway. Gruden once reprimanded for a comment about refs being unfair and had to meet with Madden and Fisher at NFL Office but didn’t show. Apparently, Sean Payton told him he was only coach who was stupid enough to pay his fine for pandmc days.
• Snyder, probably most likely person and what led to his dismissal. He thought he could divert attention away from his own investigation. Leaked it same time as his final hearing was coming. Was close to Jay-Z’s PR Firm which had done same thing with leaks on MLB execs during A-Rod’s lawsuit and Gruden’s lawyers found that the reporters who published the leaks all had history of good PR article for the firm.. Had a conversation with NFL where his lawyers showed unsavory communications and other NFL owners referred to it as blackmail. Snyder also knew that Gruden had disrespected the Commish many times and Goodell wasn’t happy with Gruden and thought it might get him back in good graces and help NFL appear like they were solving social issues brought up by Kaepernick. Snyder also hated Bruce Allen and thought it would tarnish him since he received the email.
• NFL Players Union Chief, Smith. He was facing a vote on his leadership the exact same day of the leak and apparently also had a good relationship with Jay-Z’s PR Firm that many suspected of giving the leak to the press.

Have to read the article, there is a lot more! But general consensus seems to be Snyder did it and that if he hadn’t, he would still have a team. Apparently the NFL investigation into Washington was originally done with collaboration between Snyder and Goodell for least impact possible. But Snyder started pushing buttons even threatening to attend an owners meeting he was banned from. Jerry Jones was the only owner who had any sway with Snyder, and the other owners had him convince Snyder not to attend. Then DC started getting involved with hearings. These events and the bad publicity with the Gruden leak, and the blackmail meeting from Snyder lawyers to NFL lawyers pushed the owners over the edge and they decided to kick him out, Gruden is convinced that Goodell did it and suing, and there is some suspicious stuff pointing his way, but end rational argument is why would he even consider publishing it knowing it would smear the NFL’s reputation no matter what. Snyder is the one most guilty of being a hothead with a Napoleon complex.

Quick note, Commanders are definitely going to be competitive again. Story mentions that Gruden would talk with his brother about his time in Washington and apparently on NFL Draft Day, Snyder would walk in off his yacht and tell them who to draft, overriding all coaches and GMs. Snyder is the wanna-be Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones is the wanna-be Al Davis. They’re all connected. ~cue Xfiles music

How does this prove the Commanders are going to be good?

 

[VaqueroTD]

How does this prove the Commanders are going to be good?

When a guy who knows nothing about football is coming in and hand picking players, sort of explains why they’ve had so many bad FA signings and poor draft picks.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

When a guy who knows nothing about football is coming in and hand picking players, sort of explains why they’ve had so many bad FA signings and poor draft picks.

I mean I get why they would be better especially coming from incompetence but they didn’t fire anyone of significance. Rivera is still there. They do have a new OC so let’s see how that goes. Looks like the same ol Commanders. Never thought they had a bad team they just seem to be missing what everyone else is. A competent QB. They’re going to be a tough team to take out just don’t think they can do much if its Brissett and Howell.

 

[VaqueroTD]

I mean I get why they would be better especially coming from incompetence but they didn’t fire anyone of significance. Rivera is still there. They do have a new OC so let’s see how that goes. Looks like the same ol Commanders. Never thought they had a bad team they just seem to be missing what everyone else is. A competent QB. They’re going to be a tough team to take out just don’t think they can do much if its Brissett and Howell.

Because team isn’t sold yet. Once new ownership takes over you’ll see the house cleaning. Article mentions Snyder is still fighting his dismissal behind closed doors.

 

[KJJ]

I consider this Cowboys because it’s our rival and some Jerry Jones stuff in the article but if mods feel it’s NFL zone, feel free….

Great article on ESPN about the Gruden dismissal which led to the Snyder team sale.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...dan-snyder-demise-washington-commanders-owner

3 suspects on Gruden email to Washington GM Bruce Allen leak:

• The Commish, Gruden felt there was a vendetta against him. Reinforced by his relationship with Al Davis who also was suspicious of NFL Commishes, and thought that Rozelle was the one who rejected his trade for Jon Elway. Gruden once reprimanded for a comment about refs being unfair and had to meet with Madden and Fisher at NFL Office but didn’t show. Apparently, Sean Payton told him he was only coach who was stupid enough to pay his fine for pandmc days.
• Snyder, probably most likely person and what led to his dismissal. He thought he could divert attention away from his own investigation. Leaked it same time as his final hearing was coming. Was close to Jay-Z’s PR Firm which had done same thing with leaks on MLB execs during A-Rod’s lawsuit and Gruden’s lawyers found that the reporters who published the leaks all had history of good PR article for the firm.. Had a conversation with NFL where his lawyers showed unsavory communications and other NFL owners referred to it as blackmail. Snyder also knew that Gruden had disrespected the Commish many times and Goodell wasn’t happy with Gruden and thought it might get him back in good graces and help NFL appear like they were solving social issues brought up by Kaepernick. Snyder also hated Bruce Allen and thought it would tarnish him since he received the email.
• NFL Players Union Chief, Smith. He was facing a vote on his leadership the exact same day of the leak and apparently also had a good relationship with Jay-Z’s PR Firm that many suspected of giving the leak to the press.

Have to read the article, there is a lot more! But general consensus seems to be Snyder did it and that if he hadn’t, he would still have a team. Apparently the NFL investigation into Washington was originally done with collaboration between Snyder and Goodell for least impact possible. But Snyder started pushing buttons even threatening to attend an owners meeting he was banned from. Jerry Jones was the only owner who had any sway with Snyder, and the other owners had him convince Snyder not to attend. Then DC started getting involved with hearings. These events and the bad publicity with the Gruden leak, and the blackmail meeting from Snyder lawyers to NFL lawyers pushed the owners over the edge and they decided to kick him out, Gruden is convinced that Goodell did it and suing, and there is some suspicious stuff pointing his way, but end rational argument is why would he even consider publishing it knowing it would smear the NFL’s reputation no matter what. Snyder is the one most guilty of being a hothead with a Napoleon complex.

Quick note, Commanders are definitely going to be competitive again. Story mentions that Gruden would talk with his brother about his time in Washington and apparently on NFL Draft Day, Snyder would walk in off his yacht and tell them who to draft, overriding all coaches and GMs. Snyder is the wanna-be Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones is the wanna-be Al Davis. They’re all connected. ~cue Xfiles music

Washington won’t be competing for the division until they find a viable QB. They have the worst QB situation in the NFC East. With new ownership this is likely Rivera‘s last season in Washington. They’re going to have to hope. Howell turns into something special because I’ve seen enough of Jacoby Brissett to know they aren’t going to win much with him.

 

[GMO415]

I can care less. Hogs suck/

 

[J-man]

I hope they continue to suck for our sake. Danny needs to take his ball (of $) and go home. If the new owners are smart they will cut all ties with most front office guys in that building. And they need to move the team out of that dump they call a stadium.
They could become The London Commanders and make everyone happy.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I consider this Cowboys because it’s our rival and some Jerry Jones stuff in the article but if mods feel it’s NFL zone, feel free….

Great article on ESPN about the Gruden dismissal which led to the Snyder team sale.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...dan-snyder-demise-washington-commanders-owner

3 suspects on Gruden email to Washington GM Bruce Allen leak:

• The Commish, Gruden felt there was a vendetta against him. Reinforced by his relationship with Al Davis who also was suspicious of NFL Commishes, and thought that Rozelle was the one who rejected his trade for Jon Elway. Gruden once reprimanded for a comment about refs being unfair and had to meet with Madden and Fisher at NFL Office but didn’t show. Apparently, Sean Payton told him he was only coach who was stupid enough to pay his fine for pandmc days.
• Snyder, probably most likely person and what led to his dismissal. He thought he could divert attention away from his own investigation. Leaked it same time as his final hearing was coming. Was close to Jay-Z’s PR Firm which had done same thing with leaks on MLB execs during A-Rod’s lawsuit and Gruden’s lawyers found that the reporters who published the leaks all had history of good PR article for the firm.. Had a conversation with NFL where his lawyers showed unsavory communications and other NFL owners referred to it as blackmail. Snyder also knew that Gruden had disrespected the Commish many times and Goodell wasn’t happy with Gruden and thought it might get him back in good graces and help NFL appear like they were solving social issues brought up by Kaepernick. Snyder also hated Bruce Allen and thought it would tarnish him since he received the email.
• NFL Players Union Chief, Smith. He was facing a vote on his leadership the exact same day of the leak and apparently also had a good relationship with Jay-Z’s PR Firm that many suspected of giving the leak to the press.

Have to read the article, there is a lot more! But general consensus seems to be Snyder did it and that if he hadn’t, he would still have a team. Apparently the NFL investigation into Washington was originally done with collaboration between Snyder and Goodell for least impact possible. But Snyder started pushing buttons even threatening to attend an owners meeting he was banned from. Jerry Jones was the only owner who had any sway with Snyder, and the other owners had him convince Snyder not to attend. Then DC started getting involved with hearings. These events and the bad publicity with the Gruden leak, and the blackmail meeting from Snyder lawyers to NFL lawyers pushed the owners over the edge and they decided to kick him out, Gruden is convinced that Goodell did it and suing, and there is some suspicious stuff pointing his way, but end rational argument is why would he even consider publishing it knowing it would smear the NFL’s reputation no matter what. Snyder is the one most guilty of being a hothead with a Napoleon complex.

Quick note, Commanders are definitely going to be competitive again. Story mentions that Gruden would talk with his brother about his time in Washington and apparently on NFL Draft Day, Snyder would walk in off his yacht and tell them who to draft, overriding all coaches and GMs. Snyder is the wanna-be Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones is the wanna-be Al Davis. They’re all connected. ~cue Xfiles music

I still dont understand from your post what Snyder did or anyone did that you are talking about?

Gruden's incident was complete nonsense. Getting in trouble for a 10 year old private email is ridiculous.

 

[Flamma]

How does this prove the Commanders are going to be good?

That all hinges on Sam Howell. If he's a halfway decent QB the team should be competitive. If not, Rivera gets returned to Easter Island.

 

[EST_1986]

How does this prove the Commanders are going to be good?

Addition by subtraction.
snyder was so bad it probably can’t get any worse, not sure about them actually being good yet

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Addition by subtraction.
snyder was so bad it probably can’t get any worse, not sure about them actually being good yet

it can’t get any worse but that doesn’t equate to being good. It’s worth noting that they have had some of the best coaches in the league come through there including Sean McVey…..it starts at top though and Snyder was bad for that city and organization.

 

[blueblood70]

I consider this Cowboys because it’s our rival and some Jerry Jones stuff in the article but if mods feel it’s NFL zone, feel free….

Great article on ESPN about the Gruden dismissal which led to the Snyder team sale.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...dan-snyder-demise-washington-commanders-owner

3 suspects on Gruden email to Washington GM Bruce Allen leak:

• The Commish, Gruden felt there was a vendetta against him. Reinforced by his relationship with Al Davis who also was suspicious of NFL Commishes, and thought that Rozelle was the one who rejected his trade for Jon Elway. Gruden once reprimanded for a comment about refs being unfair and had to meet with Madden and Fisher at NFL Office but didn’t show. Apparently, Sean Payton told him he was only coach who was stupid enough to pay his fine for pandmc days.
• Snyder, probably most likely person and what led to his dismissal. He thought he could divert attention away from his own investigation. Leaked it same time as his final hearing was coming. Was close to Jay-Z’s PR Firm which had done same thing with leaks on MLB execs during A-Rod’s lawsuit and Gruden’s lawyers found that the reporters who published the leaks all had history of good PR article for the firm.. Had a conversation with NFL where his lawyers showed unsavory communications and other NFL owners referred to it as blackmail. Snyder also knew that Gruden had disrespected the Commish many times and Goodell wasn’t happy with Gruden and thought it might get him back in good graces and help NFL appear like they were solving social issues brought up by Kaepernick. Snyder also hated Bruce Allen and thought it would tarnish him since he received the email.
• NFL Players Union Chief, Smith. He was facing a vote on his leadership the exact same day of the leak and apparently also had a good relationship with Jay-Z’s PR Firm that many suspected of giving the leak to the press.

Have to read the article, there is a lot more! But general consensus seems to be Snyder did it and that if he hadn’t, he would still have a team. Apparently the NFL investigation into Washington was originally done with collaboration between Snyder and Goodell for least impact possible. But Snyder started pushing buttons even threatening to attend an owners meeting he was banned from. Jerry Jones was the only owner who had any sway with Snyder, and the other owners had him convince Snyder not to attend. Then DC started getting involved with hearings. These events and the bad publicity with the Gruden leak, and the blackmail meeting from Snyder lawyers to NFL lawyers pushed the owners over the edge and they decided to kick him out, Gruden is convinced that Goodell did it and suing, and there is some suspicious stuff pointing his way, but end rational argument is why would he even consider publishing it knowing it would smear the NFL’s reputation no matter what. Snyder is the one most guilty of being a hothead with a Napoleon complex.

Quick note, Commanders are definitely going to be competitive again. Story mentions that Gruden would talk with his brother about his time in Washington and apparently on NFL Draft Day, Snyder would walk in off his yacht and tell them who to draft, overriding all coaches and GMs. Snyder is the wanna-be Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones is the wanna-be Al Davis. They’re all connected. ~cue Xfiles music

First off I don't care what Washington does or doesn't do but skipping through what I already know the reasons why he had to sell the team let's go to the bottom where you try to accuse Jerry at doing what Snyder did and show me the proof we're talking about the last decade show me where Jerry is still being al Davis and Snyder the fact is we all know things have changed a lot things are going well and we're not having the problems that Washington is having you know they've been lasting the division except for the years where the rest of the division was injured and they snuck one in and what was it COVID 2020, I don't remember..

The whole conspiracy theory that Jerry does this stuff is nonsense this was probably Jerry Jones back from 1997 to 2003 but he made a lot of changes since then and even more in the last 10 years but we see the influence that will Mcclay the actual real GM here has on Jerry and the fact that Jerry is allowing Steven and others which by the way they employ about 750 people just for the Dallas Cowboys alone don't even count the players and I don't believe some other things that might bring it to 1200 underneath the Dallas Cowboys corporate employee structure it's not Jerry just walking in and telling people what to do he listens to his coaches and his staff and they making an informed decision but I don't see Jerry making many of these decisions at all by himself or making demands I've seen 0 proof and there's been tons of ex coaches and players that could have come in and said he's doing that that is not been the case for so long that we should just stop trying to make the comparisons. Show me all the jaded X players and staff and scouts and all that that say that Jerry is doing these things there isn't any at all there hasn't even been a cricket of evidence that can show that Jerry's done any of this.

yes he doesn't have a GM IN title opposite from himself but we again know that that's actually Will Mcclay, no matter what people try to say mcclay is our GM even though Jerry likes the title.

 

[lkelly]

Man I hope to see that day.

Longing for the return of racial slurs used as team names for billion dollar corporations televised weekly to millions worldwide? Seems like a strange thing to pine for, but to each his own. I can think of a lot of other things that might rate higher on my list.

 

[khiladi]

I’m in DC area and all the folks I know are glad he’s gone,

Does this even discuss the sexual harassment allegations related to the cheerleaders, not that I really care, but my theory was that moves were already in play trying to force Snyder out.

As far a GM, apparently during the RG3 years, he would just come to Snyder’s office to whine and bypass anything the Shanahan boys did or wanted to do.

 

[blueblood70]

Washington won’t be competing for the division until they find a viable QB. They have the worst QB situation in the NFC East. With new ownership this is likely Rivera‘s last season in Washington. They’re going to have to hope. Howell turns into something special because I’ve seen enough of Jacoby Brissett to know they aren’t going to win much with him.

I think what people forget too is by the time they find that quarterback there's gonna be bigger changes on other parts of their team they're gonna lose players to injury to free agency to retirement the windows are not open very long for teams and while they are really strong on one side of the ball and weak on the other by the time they get strong on the other side they may get weak on defense or special teams I mean you have a window and you need to be in that window or it's gonna shut. The Dallas Cowboys are right now have a nice cracked open window on both sides of the ball but if we have to make a change at quarterback and guys like Tyrone Smith and Zach Martin leave we're gonna end up being on that same opposite spectrum our defense is now caught up and maybe we'll pass our offense but our offense is gonna end up taking a big hit if we've gotta start over at quarterback that's why we try to tell these fancy want that change they need to be careful what they wish for let's see what Prescott can do over the next two seasons and then we can blow it all up if needed.

 

[Creeper]

Goodell is a puppet of a few of the owners including the Maras. Remember when Goodell penalized the Cowboys and Washington for supposedly violating the salary CAP after the CBA had expired? That nonsense was orchestrated by Mara, which is why the only two teams punished were in the same division as the Giants. But Washington was punished much more harshly than the Cowboys. Mara clearly had it out for Snyder, and Jones. Goodell just did what he was told.

In any case, this goes back a long way and they used whatever they could to force Snyder out. They would probably do the same thing to Jerry but Jerry seems to know how to play the game better than Daniel Snyder.

 

[blueblood70]

Goodell is a puppet of a few of the owners including the Maras. Remember when Goodell penalized the Cowboys and Washington for supposedly violating the salary CAP after the CBA had expired? That nonsense was orchestrated by Mara, which is why the only two teams punished were in the same division as the Giants. But Washington was punished much more harshly than the Cowboys. Mara clearly had it out for Snyder, and Jones. Goodell just did what he was told.

In any case, this goes back a long way and they used whatever they could to force Snyder out. They would probably do the same thing to Jerry but Jerry seems to know how to play the game better than Daniel Snyder.

I don't agree

Snyder made his own bed and now he's paying for it.

Jerry Jones is not even doing anything close or remotely the same

and Mara is not gonna get Jerry out if he hasn't got Jerry out already Jerry's not doing anything that relates to why Snyder got the ultimatum...

fans around here think that because they don't really love Jerry Jones the fact is he's kept the team relative he's kept the team in a way that he's still getting a ton of respect from Goodell as far as the schedule goes because Goodell knows that the Cowboys are good for the league because how popular they are and the ratings that they bring Washington wasn't doing any of that and the owner did some things that were against the bylaws where Jerry has not.

Again, I know the fans don't like Jerry and so they're going to think they're going to lump them in with al Davis and Snyder and Marge shot or whoever names, was he's not like that just because he kept the title of GM and likes to talk a lot..

he's getting in that same realm and I'm sorry but it's not the same to me.

 

[ghst187]

Point 1000 of evidence of how petty, vindictive, childish, and unfit Goodell is for leadership.

 

[Whyjerry]

Longing for the return of racial slurs used as team names for billion dollar corporations televised weekly to millions worldwide? Seems like a strange thing to pine for, but to each his own. I can think of a lot of other things that might rate higher on my list.

Well look at you…by your logic Norte Dame better form a committee. Try box breathing.

I will also add that polls of Native Americans overwhelmingly said they weren’t offended by the name rather they were proud yet folks like you get to run around and decide what’s offensive and what’s not. LMAO.