Rebuild or Retool?

KJJ

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Some fans want to rebuild after three straight 12-5 playoff seasons. :rolleyes:
 

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Option C- mismanagement by an inept ownership group.
 

fivetwos

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I hear ya but we’ve reached 12 wins 3 consecutive seasons . Is it all about weaker schedules ?

About half the teams or more in the NFL hover around .500 or below so it’s most likely most of your wins are going to be against lesser teams.

We can’t control our schedule . Yes, we have struggled against better teams but I’d imagine most of the less than Elite teams do.

In most cases we have lost to better teams in the playoffs as well. Do we need to build a better team ? Of course .
What I know is that the Jones family, Jason Garrett and Dak Prescott (and several others to a lesser degree) owe an extremely large debt of gratitude to the Washington and New York Giants franchises.
 

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What I know is that the Jones family, Jason Garrett and Dak Prescott (and several others to a lesser degree) owe an extremely large debt of gratitude to the Washington and New York Giants franchises.
All we can do is play the games on our schedule. We shouldn’t make apologies.

The fact we’ve dominated Wash and NY in recent years also adds to their losing record as well as padding ours.

Just last year we were only division with 3 playoff teams. We had 1st place schedule last year . It’s still tough every week in NFL. There’s no gimmies like in college football.
 

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All we can do is play the games on our schedule. We shouldn’t make apologies.

The fact we’ve dominated Wash and NY in recent years also adds to their losing record as well as padding ours.

Just last year we were only division with 3 playoff teams. We had 1st place schedule last year . It’s still tough every week in NFL. There’s no gimmies like in college football.
I fully agree, but I also believe that certain situations have made certain people appear to be better at what they do than they actually are.
 

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Definitely not a rebuilt. Retool yes but that's every year.
 

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I’ve been reading where many fans think we should be in a rebuilding mode?

Is this like after 3 straight 5-11 seasons or like 3 straight 8-8 seasons? No, this after 3 straight 12 win seasons.

I’m trying to recall a 3 consecutive 12 win team that decided it needed a total rebuild ? I’d like to hear some historical comparisons to support these notions.

I understand our frustrations with lack of playoff success but who does a total rebuild with this level of success however disappointing the ending?

Yes, we have set some historic futilities in the playoffs but this team is still ranked in top 4 of the conference.

No this isn’t 2003 or even 2011 when rebuilds were needed. Instead we should be retooling at the very least and continuing to attempt to build upon the current team.

a Re-Tool works if you have the key/Critical players .

Dak is 31 , known Choker , with bad wheels .

The Hand Writing is on the wall for Chokota ...

A Smart businessman knows when to cut his losses
 

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Ever build a house? Didn't think so....Let me tell you....if you think you cam pull a remodel off a crappy foundation....you would be mistaken. And that is the problem here...the foundation is crap. You don't build around a crap QB like Dak....an aging RB like Zeke. Your WR room is almost empty...You take away Lamb...who in that room scares you???? Nobody. Your O-line is a musical chair mess of guys that will be playing out of position this season. You got a lame duck coaching staffing...a playbook written in crayon. This thing is closer to ....it should be blown up...other than a "retool".
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Retool is a more accurate term. The FO does a little of that every season.
 

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You do if you aren't satisfied with going one and done in the playoffs. If regular season accomplishments are your thing, then yes, keep going with the status quo every damn year.
12 wins means nothing to me anymore. Can't even make an NFCCG when everything falls into place. Heck The Eagles collapse gave us the NFCE.
 

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I hear ya but we’ve reached 12 wins 3 consecutive seasons . Is it all about weaker schedules ?

About half the teams or more in the NFL hover around .500 or below so it’s most likely most of your wins are going to be against lesser teams.

We can’t control our schedule . Yes, we have struggled against better teams but I’d imagine most of the less than Elite teams do.

In most cases we have lost to better teams in the playoffs as well. Do we need to build a better team ? Of course .
The NFC has been Historically weak for the last 3 years.....if we had been in the AFC our record would be quite different
 

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The problem is you guys are not taking the salary cap era into account. 3 consecutive 12 win seasons with no playoff success, really just mean you are in a stagnant stage. You have two choices really 1) continue to pay your current players on an escalating scale, where a few players (in our case unsuccessful player(s) eat the majority of the salary pie, or 2) reset with a new players. That is how the modern NFL is set to run, love it or hate it.
They're stagnant because their standard operating procedure hit its ceiling. We've had a slight variation of the same team the past three years. They're not going to magically become a great football team without some effort to do so.
 

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I’ve been reading where many fans think we should be in a rebuilding mode?

Is this like after 3 straight 5-11 seasons or like 3 straight 8-8 seasons? No, this after 3 straight 12 win seasons.

I’m trying to recall a 3 consecutive 12 win team that decided it needed a total rebuild ? I’d like to hear some historical comparisons to support these notions.

I understand our frustrations with lack of playoff success but who does a total rebuild with this level of success however disappointing the ending?

Yes, we have set some historic futilities in the playoffs but this team is still ranked in top 4 of the conference.

No this isn’t 2003 or even 2011 when rebuilds were needed. Instead we should be retooling at the very least and continuing to attempt to build upon the current team.
Maybe Jerry's comments of All-In are because this is his last year.

Maybe he did not resign or extend anyone because he is leaving that decision up to new ownership next season.

Maybe Jerry seen how much money Snyder made selling the crappy Skins and decided it is time.

Maybe Jerry is afraid of Cap Boy doing a better job than he did.

Maybe Jerry see the hostile takeover coming from his son and decided to make a move before it happens.

At this point I don't see how anything can be ruled out.
 

America's Cowboy

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The Cowboys in 1971 were frustrated after losing the Super Bowl and 2 previous first round exits in the playoffs.

But it didn’t bring about a rebuild. It just brought about a change at QB. Maybe there’s something to be learned here?

The problem is though do we have another HOF caliber QB sitting on the bench? I doubt it.
If anyone can prove Kurt Warner and Cole Beasley wrong about those 2 INTs vs the Packers playoff loss, I will listen.

Until then, it's just more confused complaining as usual.
 

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Nope. Neither. We just proceed as normal. Jerry is the master at convincing the masses every year that we are one or two players (while loving our guys) away from a Super Bowl. For him to do either of those would mean that he'd have to admit that he was wrong with past choices. He'll never do that.

Now let's get back to our regularly scheduled programing....
This!! great post bro!
 

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It’s all about the 2024/25 drafts.

We have to fix the cap also.

Daks dead cap won’t clear until 2027.

40 mil 2025
12 mil 2026

Then we have Martins money to clear also.
 
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