Rebuild Plan 1001

conner01

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financially its a sound plan. not so sure about adding many free agents but a sound plan from the cap perspective. i think the draft is the real key. if we work it right we can get 3 or 4 starter or major role players in this draft. the draft is the key to fixing the cap long term. but the cap has to go up in the coming years because the tv contract go up a ton.
we have no choice but restructure some guys and their contracts were done with that in mind. the wholsale cutting of players some want is just not realistic. to me the only player who is a tough call is ware. do we restructure? try to get a cut or release. tough call, but if he would take a cut then thats by far the best approach. austin is gone, hatch and spencer will be alowed to walk, some guys not stars may be gone. but guys like carr, romo.witten,lee are just not gonna be cut for many reasons. one, you don't have an option to replace them but also you need some of their contracts to restructure to make room to do anything. i could see some free agents if they were short term kinda prove it deals. maybe one guy like a melton who would fill a huge need and take pressure off draft day too
great post and realistic plan
 

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I think your numbers are reversed.

Yeah, I didn't say that right. According to overthecap.com, for 2014 his cap hit is 12.5 million. Cutting him would create 16.9 mill dead money, so it would actually still come out to a 4.5 mill loss against the cap.
 

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Actually, the core has been fine. They haven't put any depth around it. That said, yes, I would part with Ware, Witten, and Austin, and spend the next two years building a deeper team.

I think the core's been fine too. I agree about the supporting cast. We didn't surround those guys with enough talent. Particularly up front.

The question is can we do it now as they are aging and the team's salary cap is in such bad shape? I don't think we can. So what would be the point in hanging on to them if it's at all possible to release them?
 

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Using your theory to keep everything together until Romo is finished, what would it take under these re-structures and cuts (Miles Austin, K. Orton) to re-sign Anthony Spencer and J. Hatcher? If this were to happen we could go DT early in the draft to start over Hayden and compete with Crawford ( not sold on him). Sign a Free agent FS (J. Byrd type) while we see what Matt Johnson is all about.

With this I would be targeting a DT, OG, DE, OT, LB in the first 5 rds of the Draft.

Can we re-sign Hatcher and Spencer with these moves and add a Veteran Safety, then use our draft picks to to build the rest?
I have them signing 3 free agent DLinemen. You could swap Spencer and Hatcher out with my suggestions, but I would prefer to avoid over 30 players like Spencer and Hatcher. Also, there is a good chance that Spencer never plays again. Microfracture is not always successful
 

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I think the core's been fine too. I agree about the supporting cast. We didn't surround those guys with enough talent. Particularly up front.

The question is can we do it now as they are aging and the team's salary cap is in such bad shape? I don't think we can. So what would be the point in hanging on to them if it's at all possible to release them?

Well, my comment was more just with regard to that core group, and how much criticism they've taken. But I agree with you on what we should do going forward. I've posted a few times recently that I think it would be best to let some of those guys like Ware, Witten, and Austin go. We haven't won anything with them, and most likely won't over the next couple of years, so I would let them go, take whatever hit needs to be taken over the next couple of seasons until their dead money is off the books, and then go hard after rebuilding from the inside out. It's totally inconsistent with what this organization has done, but it's what I would do.
 

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Good post. Lots of FA names to consider. A lot of time went into your post and I appreciate it.
 

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Good post. Lots of FA names to consider. A lot of time went into your post and I appreciate it.

i appraciate those who put in the work to come up with realistic plans. we may not agree with every aspect but the plan is sound and thats alot of hard work. greatly apreciated
 

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I've been saying for years that the core was fine — from a talent standpoint. They've all managed many fine individual numbers, and there could be some HOFers among them.

That said, from a leadership standpoint, they fell INCREDIBLY SHORT.

I've always found it humorous that fans go out of their way (perhaps as a way to convince themselves?) to try to say the Romo, Witten and Ware were great leaders, but I've always felt that they were way too comfortable with losing/mediocrity (e.g. Romo's "if this is the worst thing that happens to me…").

Let's just say that I miss the likes of Lilly, Jordan, Staubach, White, Martin, Smith, Irvin, Aikman, Woodson, etc., and I long for the day where we have bonafide superstars who talk the talk and walk the walk.
 

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lol @ some of these plans.
Ware- here to stay
Romo- Obviously, here to stay
Carr is not going anywhere

Best of all, JJ and JG arent going anywhere.
Deal with it
 

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I've been saying for years that the core was fine — from a talent standpoint. They've all managed many fine individual numbers, and there could be some HOFers among them.

That said, from a leadership standpoint, they fell INCREDIBLY SHORT.

I've always found it humorous that fans go out of their way (perhaps as a way to convince themselves?) to try to say the Romo, Witten and Ware were great leaders, but I've always felt that they were way too comfortable with losing/mediocrity (e.g. Romo's "if this is the worst thing that happens to me…").

Let's just say that I miss the likes of Lilly, Jordan, Staubach, White, Martin, Smith, Irvin, Aikman, Woodson, etc., and I long for the day where we have bonafide superstars who talk the talk and walk the walk.
How do you know any of this?
From ESPN, watching the games? Is it the internet reports?
Seriously, do you know any of these guys or work (or play) for Dallas?
 

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How do you know any of this?
From ESPN, watching the games? Is it the internet reports?
Seriously, do you know any of these guys or work (or play) for Dallas?

So, Romo didn't say, "if this is the worst thing that happens to me…"? Those guys weren't the "leaders" of the team that gave up on Wade? Austin doesn't smile after every drop or mistake? Geez, he did it again last game.

These are just a few small examples, and I don't need you, ESPN or the internet to form an opinion.

And truthfully, I don't give a rat's behind what you think of my opinion.

As I said, to me, they look mildly irritated after seasons of average football — at best.

I was screaming that this core was rotten long ago, and it's only now that people are starting to see the light.
 

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So, Romo didn't say, "if this is the worst thing that happens to me…"? Those guys weren't the "leaders" of the team that gave up on Wade? Austin doesn't smile after every drop or mistake? Geez, he did it again last game.

These are just a few small examples, and I don't need you, ESPN or the internet to form an opinion.

And truthfully, I don't give a rat's behind what you think of my opinion.

As I said, to me, they look mildly irritated after seasons of average football — at best.

I was screaming that this core was rotten long ago, and it's only now that people are starting to see the light.

if you dont care dont respond. Thats what you wouldve done if you were not bent outta shape. lol

I asked what made you arrive at that opinion... all you did was get upset.... But since you are upset and instead of "mildly irritated" Ill just assume you are a true leader. lol
 

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I realize you can't cut him now, but if you're deciding to rebuild and clean up the cap it's going to take multiple years. I'm not sure I'd let Tony Romo be the determining factor of the plan for the future.

If you want a shot at Romo competing for a championship, then he is a (not the only) determining factor on when to clean up the cap and re-build, he has to be. I think part of the rebuild has already begun. We need a trench heavy draft.
 

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Unless I'm not understanding your intent correctly, I'm not even sure this is possible.

Get Ware to take a pay cut to 6M and structure his contract for a 2014 cap hit of 6M. That saves 10M.

He has $3.7M in cap charges that are a result of previous restructures. Whatever his base salary turns out to be just adds to it.

Pay cut to $6M and his cap number is $9.7M. He'd have to have a base salary of $2.3M to come out at a $6M cap figure, which would be a $10M pay cut from his scheduled base salary.

The only way I think Ware takes a pay cut is if he gets 2015 guaranteed. What would his incentive be for just handing back even half of that $10M?

What does that say to prospective Free Agents?

Sign with Jerry so he can shuffle your cap figures around to such a great extent that he comes back in a couple years to ask you to take a pay cut.
 

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Unless I'm not understanding your intent correctly, I'm not even sure this is possible.

He has $3.7M in cap charges that are a result of previous restructures. Whatever his base salary turns out to be just adds to it.

Pay cut to $6M and his cap number is $9.7M. He'd have to have a base salary of $2.3M to come out at a $6M cap figure, which would be a $10M pay cut from his scheduled base salary.
The 6M base would be restructured as follows:

New base 840K
Restructure bonus of 6M - 840K = 5.16M
Restructure bonus yearly charge 5.16/4 = 1.29M

2014 Cap: 840K + 1.29M + 3.75M = 5.88M
 

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I have them signing 3 free agent DLinemen. You could swap Spencer and Hatcher out with my suggestions, but I would prefer to avoid over 30 players like Spencer and Hatcher. Also, there is a good chance that Spencer never plays again. Microfracture is not always successful

I'd rather have Spencer 29 and Hatcher 32 then those free agents. If we can make it work and not overpay we have some personnel. Spencer's injury will cost him the big contract, he will be back and we'll need a replacement for ratliff/Hayden in the draft. I'm ok with Ware, Spencer, Hatcher along with two early picks at both the 1 tech and DE . It think spencer and hatcher will resign for a contract that works for both parties, while Ware is re- structured. We aim for Ware, Hatcher and Spencer to start with Selvie, Bass and Crawford backing them up plus two early draft picks. On the draft side guys like Trent murphy, Ealy, Kernigan and Sutton will be available.

This gives us our best chance to compete for a SB while we have Romo. Joseph re-signs with NY and Melton is not going to cut it. I would also draft two offensive lineman (guard and tackle) and sign the best FA F-Safety available.
 

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Give me Terrance Cody.. We need a big body in the middle for once to clog things up on running downs.
 
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