Recent Court Rulings on NCAA and Paying Athletes

[TwoCentPlain]

Anyone paying much attention to the recent rulings going against the NCAA and for the players when it comes to payments? I have just skimmed the articles and read the headlines. Looks like some landmark stuff is happening and it will open up the gates to paying student athletes big money. Looks like these athletes will get money for NIL - Name, Image, and Likeness. Athletes will no longer be capped at just scholarship and room & board. "With the cap removed, colleges can now begin to entice prospective and current student-athletes with funding for things like study abroad trips, internships, computers and materials, graduate degrees and tutoring with no financial limit."

I am wondering how this will affect the NFL and the Cowboys with respect to getting players via the free college farm leagues. Looks like the NCAA as an institution may no longer have any power to control anything and no reason for being.

18–22-Year-old athletes will be getting 'money' and there doesn't appear any way the NCAA can control the amount of money. So, these athletes will essentially be turning pro at 18, even before getting to the NFL. They could be millionaires before leaving college.

How much longer will NCAA football last? Will it last? Will it transform into a professional league and become direct competition to the NFL? Will colleges be able to keep players longer than 4 years? Players could play at Alabama for 6-8 years if the money is good.

Is there anything against Jerry setting up his own farm system and paying 18–22-year-old athletes to just practice football like baseball? Will teams start grabbing the 5-star athletes before college gets them and pay them to just learn football? Pay them to practice and to study online at some college? It should be interesting.

https://www.alligator.org/article/2021/06/supreme-court-denies-ncaa-in-unanimous-ruling
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...about-impact-of-mondays-supreme-court-ruling/
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/31086019/everything-need-know-ncaa-nil-debate

 

[JoeKing]

Surely this should be posted elsewhere.

 

[tyke1doe]

Surely this should be posted elsewhere.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Surely this should be posted elsewhere.

I was thinking the same thing.

It is about how these rulings affect the Cowboys and how the Cowboys acquire players in the future. The floodgates have been opened. Will Jerry and the Cowboys be competing with colleges for players since the college players are essentially ‘pro athletes?’

Many ways these rulings can affect the Cowboys and the NFL.

 

[john van brocklin]

Anyone paying much attention to the recent rulings going against the NCAA and for the players when it comes to payments? I have just skimmed the articles and read the headlines. Looks like some landmark stuff is happening and it will open up the gates to paying student athletes big money. Looks like these athletes will get money for NIL - Name, Image, and Likeness. Athletes will no longer be capped at just scholarship and room & board. "With the cap removed, colleges can now begin to entice prospective and current student-athletes with funding for things like study abroad trips, internships, computers and materials, graduate degrees and tutoring with no financial limit."

I am wondering how this will affect the NFL and the Cowboys with respect to getting players via the free college farm leagues. Looks like the NCAA as an institution may no longer have any power to control anything and no reason for being.

18–22-Year-old athletes will be getting 'money' and there doesn't appear any way the NCAA can control the amount of money. So, these athletes will essentially be turning pro at 18, even before getting to the NFL. They could be millionaires before leaving college.

How much longer will NCAA football last? Will it last? Will it transform into a professional league and become direct competition to the NFL? Will colleges be able to keep players longer than 4 years? Players could play at Alabama for 6-8 years if the money is good.

Is there anything against Jerry setting up his own farm system and paying 18–22-year-old athletes to just practice football like baseball? Will teams start grabbing the 5-star athletes before college gets them and pay them to just learn football? Pay them to practice and to study online at some college? It should be interesting.

https://www.alligator.org/article/2021/06/supreme-court-denies-ncaa-in-unanimous-ruling
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...about-impact-of-mondays-supreme-court-ruling/
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/31086019/everything-need-know-ncaa-nil-debate

No more free labor for the colleges

 

[HungryLion]

Anyone paying much attention to the recent rulings going against the NCAA and for the players when it comes to payments? I have just skimmed the articles and read the headlines. Looks like some landmark stuff is happening and it will open up the gates to paying student athletes big money. Looks like these athletes will get money for NIL - Name, Image, and Likeness. Athletes will no longer be capped at just scholarship and room & board. "With the cap removed, colleges can now begin to entice prospective and current student-athletes with funding for things like study abroad trips, internships, computers and materials, graduate degrees and tutoring with no financial limit."

I am wondering how this will affect the NFL and the Cowboys with respect to getting players via the free college farm leagues. Looks like the NCAA as an institution may no longer have any power to control anything and no reason for being.

18–22-Year-old athletes will be getting 'money' and there doesn't appear any way the NCAA can control the amount of money. So, these athletes will essentially be turning pro at 18, even before getting to the NFL. They could be millionaires before leaving college.

How much longer will NCAA football last? Will it last? Will it transform into a professional league and become direct competition to the NFL? Will colleges be able to keep players longer than 4 years? Players could play at Alabama for 6-8 years if the money is good.

Is there anything against Jerry setting up his own farm system and paying 18–22-year-old athletes to just practice football like baseball? Will teams start grabbing the 5-star athletes before college gets them and pay them to just learn football? Pay them to practice and to study online at some college? It should be interesting.

https://www.alligator.org/article/2021/06/supreme-court-denies-ncaa-in-unanimous-ruling
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...about-impact-of-mondays-supreme-court-ruling/
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/31086019/everything-need-know-ncaa-nil-debate

I agree with the Supreme Courts ruling. I never thought the NCAA and them imposing artificial limits on players ability to earn money was the right thing.


That being said. You bring up some very interesting questions. Questions we won’t know the answer to until it happens.

It will be interesting to see
How the “market” for college players develops.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

No more free labor for the colleges

Will the NFL still get its free minor league farm system or have to pay for it like baseball?

Since they are paid professionals now, will they be competition for the NFL players now? Will colleges start playing games on Sunday? That would be a shot across the bow. Will the NFL retaliate and play on Saturday. Two behemoths going after one pool of money. Could get brutal.

 

[john van brocklin]

Will the NFL still get its free minor league farm system or have to pay for it like baseball?

Since they are paid professionals now, will they be competition for the NFL players now? Will colleges start playing games on Sunday? That would be a shot across the bow. Will the NFL retaliate and play on Saturday. Two behemoths going after one pool of money. Could get brutal.

Bears watching

 

[JoeKing]

9-0 ruling by the supreme court.

 

[JoeKing]

It is about how these rulings affect the Cowboys and how the Cowboys acquire players in the future.

It doesn't affect the NFL at all. A minimum of 3 completed years of college is still going to be required before allowed in the NFL. Let these college athletes get paid by their college, it gets them no closer to being in the NFL than they would have been otherwise.

The floodgates have been opened. Will Jerry and the Cowboys be competing with colleges for players since the college players are essentially ‘pro athletes?’

Stop it. They are still college athletes with prohibitions to be in the Nfl until they complete the minimum requirements in a college football program.

Many ways these rulings can affect the Cowboys and the NFL.

No, it changes nothing for the NFL.

This thread belongs in a different forum. There is no connection whatsover to the Cowboys.

In order to be eligible for the NFL Draft, a player must be at least three years removed from high school. That means a college football player is eligible to enter the NFL Draft after his junior season.

 

[JoeKing]

It is about how these rulings affect the Cowboys and how the Cowboys acquire players in the future. The floodgates have been opened. Will Jerry and the Cowboys be competing with colleges for players since the college players are essentially ‘pro athletes?’

Many ways these rulings can affect the Cowboys and the NFL.

I like the topic if it's talking about the court's decision to side with the athletes. But let's not misconstrue what the consequences are or who it affects.

 

[tyke1doe]

It doesn't affect the NFL at all. A minimum of 3 completed years of college is still going to be required before allowed in the NFL. Let these college athletes get paid by their college, it gets them no closer to being in the NFL than they would have been otherwise.

Stop it. They are still college athletes with prohibitions to be in the Nfl until they complete the minimum requirements in a college football program.

No, it changes nothing for the NFL.

This thread belongs in a different forum. There is no connection whatsover to the Cowboys.

In order to be eligible for the NFL Draft, a player must be at least three years removed from high school. That means a college football player is eligible to enter the NFL Draft after his junior season.

Thank you.

 

[Hoofbite]

No more free labor for the colleges

They weren’t getting free labor. Plenty of money was routed to players in non conventional ways. I’ve seen it firsthand.

 

[john van brocklin]

They weren’t getting free labor. Plenty of money was routed to players in non conventional ways. I’ve seen it firsthand.

Well I was not counting under the table payments

 

[Hoofbite]

Well I was not counting under the table payments

All comes from the same spot. Billion dollar industry paying a few hundred thousand. Drop in the bucket that’ll be covered by $2 increases in merch.

 

[john van brocklin]

All comes from the same spot. Billion dollar industry paying a few hundred thousand. Drop in the bucket that’ll be covered by $2 increases in merch.

I see

 

[Garddog]

NFL will be in a lawsuit before next year. Just like the girl that sued to be allowed to play professionally in soccer and get paid at 16. She won her lawsuit.

NFL will be forced to allow high school graduates to compete and get paid.

The money for the majority is in contracts, not endorsements. Only a select few make big money from name, image, or likeness. Once the kids figure out they aren't worth what they think they are, they will come after the NFL for not allowing them into the workforce.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I made a few posts on this in another thread. None of this is good. College Amateur Athletics are dead. Just a matter of time now. These kids, they will not be making the NFL or NBA or MLB team, etc. Only a small number of young Athletes are capable so you are going to have a lot of young people who's careers end in HS. There will not be a pathway for education because basically, higher learning will not continue to support athletics. I see the top programs being able to support College Football and Basketball but other then that, not a lot. All minor sports, all womens sports, all sports that don't turn a significant profit are done and even those that do, they will eventually die. What will happen is that College Athletics will have to compete directly with Pro Leagues and they won't win that fight. Academia never really wanted sports in education anyway. They will see this as a perfect excuse to kill it. The financial reasons will no longer be valid and the money it will cost to compete with Pro Sports will not be insignificant so even the major money making sports will eventually die. No more March Madness, no more College Football on Saturdays.

Something like the USFL, if they are content to make significantly less money, might be able to become a sort of minor league developmental league but there again, you are talking about a small fraction of players, in comparison to Division 1 and Division 2 Sports and no education available. In the end, one of the very few avenues to escape poor, situations for a lot of youth is going to disappear. I see this as a lose - lose situation for pretty much everybody involved.

These young people have pretty much forced a situation where they've kinda screwed themselves IMO. I guess we'll see how it plays out.......

 

[Hoofbite]

NFL will be in a lawsuit before next year. Just like the girl that sued to be allowed to play professionally in soccer and get paid at 16. She won her lawsuit.

NFL will be forced to allow high school graduates to compete and get paid.

The money for the majority is in contracts, not endorsements. Only a select few make big money from name, image, or likeness. Once the kids figure out they aren't worth what they think they are, they will come after the NFL for not allowing them into the workforce.

Doubt it. There's already precedent in the NFL that you need to wait an agreed upon amount of time before entering. Maurice Clarett.

 

[erod]

If it can be done in college, then it can be done in high school, too. This is going to reach down into 9th and 10th grade for the blue chippers.

Already, there are two twins girls at Fresno State that are each set to make more money than their coach.

Schools in big markets like SMU, Cincinnati, and UCLA will rise because of this. Meanwhile, schools in small-market states like OU and even Alabama will begin to fall back over time because their fan base is relatively isolated in small areas and boosters won't want to keep up with what marketing companies in the big cities will pay. Schools like USC or Washington, or widely followed schools like Notre Dame, could have multiple players making hundreds of thousands a year, whereas a few kids at Oklahoma State will make a few thousand. Bye-bye, Boise. See ya later, Baylor. Never mind, Nebraska, Iowa State, Kansas State, and Gonzaga.

A lot of marketing companies will focus on kids with huge Instagram and Snapchat accounts. The girls will benefit from that angle because they typically have a lot more followers. Especially the pretty ones.

Players will choose to stay in college longer because of this perhaps. But it will definitely create a few haves and truckloads of have-nots.

The entire landscape of power will change quickly in the next 4-5 years.