Refs got the rule wrong... again

[ologan]

Right call....wrong call...Who gives a ?? This game was but a microcosm of the whole damn season. As one very good friend and fellow Cowboy fan put it,this season was akin to watching your favorite dog dying slowly.That just about sums it up!!!

 

[Boyz981]

Trippletes (SP)crew probably won't be getting any playoff games!

 

[dbair1967]

Trippletes (SP)crew probably won't be getting any playoff games!

they probably dont care, I'm sure they collected more from Vegas tonight than whatever they'd have made in a game or two in the postseason

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

What does it take for our WR's to get a call?

I know they are a big strong group so they arent always flopping like DeSean Jackson but damn

 

[Boyz981]

they probably dont care, I'm sure they collected more from Vegas tonight than whatever they'd have made in a game or two in the postseason

Probably LOL!

 

[Jimz31]

I hear ya man, trust me though. Garrett knew this rule and if anytime he thought they had it wrong you would of seen a much bigger reaction.

Seriously? Where was his "reaction" on a blatant non-call of a face-mask? We have seen it when coaches react to missed calls that they start getting them with other coaches...Reid being the most recent example.

Sorry, but his reaction would be the same....a non-reaction or at the most, clapping. LOL.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

They missed alot of stuff, I'm not sure about the 10 second runoff call, but they missed face masks on Bennett and Jones, they missed a number of easy defensive PI/defensive holding calls, they missed an incredibly obvious block in the back on a kickoff return (after Barber's TD and penalty). I think they got it wrong on James int too, more because it should have never been overruled in the first place. The official closest to the play called it a pick, and was overruled by someone else.

I'd say this crew is a prime example of what I have long suspected and suggested, that its far uglier than incompetence in alot fo these cases of poorly officiated games. I'd say alot of them cashed in nicely tonight via Vegas. They did everythign in their power to insure the Cards covered the spread.

I will agree with you on this. The officials were horrible, again. Does seem to be some funny business going on.

 

[hairic]

They did get it right, because it's not a pre-snap penalty, so the illegal formation thing works for those situations where you can't get everyone off the field and the field goal unit on the field and set. Just have the C and QB take the snap and spike it. Wouldn't work on 4th downs though, but the rest of the downs it would.

 

[Future]

I also didn't understand the MBIII penalty. What was he 3 yards from the sideline when he took off his head. And I only saw it in highlights, but on the PI against Rodgers Cromartie it looked like he took his helmet off right after the flag was thrown.

Seriously wth.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

"In the final two minutes, offensive penalties that require clock and play stoppages include a ten second runoff from the game clock in addition to the usual penalty. The game clock starts running again after the ball is set. The game clock runoff can be nullified if the team uses a time-out. The half automatically ends if the infraction occurs with less than ten seconds remaining and the violating team has no time-outs to use. "

I believe that since it wasn't a pre-snap penalty, the penalty didn't stop the clock. If the players were still moving towards the LOS, the 10 second run off would occur. Also had the result of the play not caused the clock to stop (complete pass or run), then the run off would've occured

 

[trickblue]

"In the final two minutes, offensive penalties that require clock and play stoppages include a ten second runoff from the game clock in addition to the usual penalty. The game clock starts running again after the ball is set. The game clock runoff can be nullified if the team uses a time-out. The half automatically ends if the infraction occurs with less than ten seconds remaining and the violating team has no time-outs to use. "

I believe that since it wasn't a pre-snap penalty, the penalty didn't stop the clock. If the players were still moving towards the LOS, the 10 second run off would occur. Also had the result of the play not caused the clock to stop (complete pass or run), then the run off would've occured

That was the big one... we LOST a game for that... yet we don't get the same courtesy?

 

[AdamJT13]

Just have the C and QB take the snap and spike it.

It wouldn't have to be the center and quarterback. You could have two wide receivers spike it as quickly as they could after the ref spots the ball.

By the way, on the radio, they were saying that Larry Fitzgerald ran in and spotted the ball, not a ref. They didn't show it during the game, though.

 

[AdamJT13]

The 10 second runoff occurs only on dead ball fouls, of which Illegal Formation is not one. Thus this loophole doesn't work, since the defense could just decline it.

The clock still stops when you spike the ball. The defense declining the penalty for no reason doesn't affect the loophole at all.

 

[morasp]

They missed alot of stuff, I'm not sure about the 10 second runoff call, but they missed face masks on Bennett and Jones, they missed a number of easy defensive PI/defensive holding calls, they missed an incredibly obvious block in the back on a kickoff return (after Barber's TD and penalty). I think they got it wrong on James int too, more because it should have never been overruled in the first place. The official closest to the play called it a pick, and was overruled by someone else.

I'd say this crew is a prime example of what I have long suspected and suggested, that its far uglier than incompetence in alot fo these cases of poorly officiated games. I'd say alot of them cashed in nicely tonight via Vegas. They did everythign in their power to insure the Cards covered the spread.

I agree. It was obvious after one quarter who how they were going to call the game. The cardinals DB is jerking on Austins arm all the way down the field no call. The defender enters the neutral zone and makes Choice flinch, false start instead of encroachment.

 

[Biggems]

They missed alot of stuff, I'm not sure about the 10 second runoff call, but they missed face masks on Bennett and Jones, they missed a number of easy defensive PI/defensive holding calls, they missed an incredibly obvious block in the back on a kickoff return (after Barber's TD and penalty). I think they got it wrong on James int too, more because it should have never been overruled in the first place. The official closest to the play called it a pick, and was overruled by someone else.

I'd say this crew is a prime example of what I have long suspected and suggested, that its far uglier than incompetence in alot fo these cases of poorly officiated games. I'd say alot of them cashed in nicely tonight via Vegas. They did everythign in their power to insure the Cards covered the spread.

On the first Pick 6, Free was clipped. It was so obvious and in front of the refs, but NO FLAG. On the 2nd incomplete pass to Roy, the one where the announcers said he looked lost, well of course he did, the defender was holding him as he was making his break on the route, NO FLAG. I love how Jenkins gets flagged for PI, but when Austin gets his inside hand pulled down so he can't catch the ball, NO FLAG.

I am not going to deny that Dallas committed their penalties, they did. I am just sick and tired of every NFL game being called onesided. This time it was against Dallas, so it bothered me more. But, it happens all the time when Dallas isn't one of the two teams. Hell, the Super Bowl with Pittsburgh and Seattle was so tainted by the refs it is disgusting...the freakin Super Bowl.

I just wish the refs would call it down the middle. Go by the book. Pay no mind to the uniform or the player wearing it. If it is an infraction, call it. But we all know they never will.

BTW, the refs didnt cost us the game......

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Im with you, we went from drafting 12th or 13th drafting 6th or 7th with a shot to move into the top 5 with some luck.

Before the game we were in the 9th spot and now we're in the 6th and that will of course move around some more.

This makes sense -- at this stage, losses are worth approximately 3 spots on average in the draft order. I guessed a couple months ago that we would be picking at 8th with a range of 6-11 and it looks like I'm going to be pretty close.

Since the 2000 draft no team with 5 wins has drafted outside of the top 10 and 60% of 6-win teams get a top 10 pick.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

The officials stink because the officials stink. No conspiracy necessary -- always err on the side of laziness, incompetence or stupidity rather than omnipotent conspiracies.

 

[goons]

The Cowboys just lost to the Cardinals, because the Cowboys didn't play as well as the Cardinals. The Cowboys gave up the ball 3 times, and got beat by John Skeleton and AJ Feely. Yes, the officiating was shoddy at times, but the football was shoddier. It was an exciting game, but that was a badly played football game.

 

[Wrangler87]

So, if this call is correct, does that mean that a team only needs the center and QB to get to the line and all the fatties, etc. can just get set wherever they happen to be standing and all that will happen is 5 yards? No need to run down the field to get to the line to stop the clock?

That's a great point. You need to send this question off to someone. It really does question the concept of the ruling.

 

[casmith07]

Any time your defensive coordinator is playing prevent defense on 4th and 15 and rushing three when the other team only needs a field goal to win, you deserve to lose.

We did everything we had to do to win this game after Kitna digging us into a horrendous hole, and Paul P peed it away with atrocious defensive playcalling to close the game. DeMarcus Ware's hero-sack was nullified.

I want Paul P gone, and Campo can drive the bus with him.