Regarding Payton's interest in Romo

[RCowboyFan]

If you could point me to this interview, that would greatly help.

I don't question the possibility. When I read "since Payton loves Romo" in post after post, I just expected there would be a lot more proof than a couple of obscure third party references that Payton liked Romo, which when said, doesn't come across as anything beyond what any other OC would say about the quarterbacks on their roster.

Again, I don't disagree with the idea ..

This has really turned into a complicated process .. I honestly expected I would get several articles posted immediately. It was not that I doubted it as much as I just wanted to see what everyone else had been reading that made the idea highly likely given the comments by other users. If I had realized that the trade idea was based off a couple of mild comments from Payton repeated by other people then I would have never asked.

Nah, I think the problem is, most of the articles you want are really old ones, that have sollid info. Now none of them say Peyton said he will trade for Romo, if thats what you would like.

But what they indicated was that Peyton really loves Romo. What JFE specifically said/wrote was, that Peyton couldn't stop talking about Romo during SB weekend in Detroit after he got New Orleans job. Now she didn't write a whole article on that, but just like a tidbit, much like how Mickey does in his articles at the end.

I mean I am sure if you searched hard enough you will eventually come up with that article or tidbit. I searched recap zone to see if my recap was there, but if I remember right, I didn't recap it, but posted as reply to some poster I think ( I mean my recap of what Jerry said about Romo and Henson too actually on Randy Galloway show). Sorry can't help you more than that, have to do some actual work you know

Bottom line, its still speculation, IMO. Regardless of how much Peyton is supposed to like Romo, Cowboys need to be willing to part him and also price will be a big question.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

The Saint's don't need Romo, especially as a back up. They already have Todd Bouman who is a 6 year veteran, and Adrian Mcpherson who they got last year.

Also keep in mind they still might take Matt Leinart or another QB in the draft, the Drew Brees deal was for one year and who knows what he's going to do anyway coming off a serious injury.

The same people and mediots starting this Romo/Sean Payton thing are the same people that insist Henson is a better qb than romo and going to be the QB of the future here.....delusions of grandeur.

 

[31smackdown]

The Saint's don't need Romo, especially as a back up. They already have Todd Bouman who is a 6 year veteran, and Adrian Mcpherson who they got last year.

This was posted this morning from USA Today..

With Brees taking mental reps only, backups Todd Bouman and Adrian McPherson took every snap during the three-day mini-camp. But neither received a ringing endorsement from Payton.

"I think they're battling," Payton said. "They might be battling versus someone else on another team, and they don't know it. They're battling to play the best they can, and I think both of them understand that."

Payton also said if the coaching staff feels they won't be adequate reserves, the team would likely look elsewhere for help.

"If they're good enough to be the No. 2, so be it," he said. "If not, we'll find someone else that's good enough to be No. 2."

I'm pretty sure Romo qualifies as a No 2 on another team..

 

[gbrittain]

The Saint's don't need Romo, especially as a back up. They already have Todd Bouman who is a 6 year veteran, and Adrian Mcpherson who they got last year.

Also keep in mind they still might take Matt Leinart or another QB in the draft, the Drew Brees deal was for one year and who knows what he's going to do anyway coming off a serious injury.

The same people and mediots starting this Romo/Sean Payton thing are the same people that insist Henson is a better qb than romo and going to be the QB of the future here.....delusions of grandeur.

The same people and mediots starting this Romo/Sean Payton thing are the same people that insist Henson is a better qb than romo and going to be the QB of the future here.....delusions of grandeur

Can not lump me into that crowd. I do believe that Henson is a better prospect than Romo.

Someone would have a hard time convincing me that an undrafted FA from a Div I-AA school who is entering his fourth year in the NFL and yet to throw a single pass in an NFL game would get anything of consequence in the form of a trade.

Do not buy it at all.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

This was posted this morning from USA Today..

With Brees taking mental reps only, backups Todd Bouman and Adrian McPherson took every snap during the three-day mini-camp. But neither received a ringing endorsement from Payton.

"I think they're battling," Payton said. "They might be battling versus someone else on another team, and they don't know it. They're battling to play the best they can, and I think both of them understand that."

Payton also said if the coaching staff feels they won't be adequate reserves, the team would likely look elsewhere for help.

"If they're good enough to be the No. 2, so be it," he said. "If not, we'll find someone else that's good enough to be No. 2."

I'm pretty sure Romo qualifies as a No 2 on another team..

Your right, that team is the Dallas Cowboys....if Payton wants Henson then sure I'd trade him in a heartbeat for a 7th rounder but Romo has great potential and another year or two under Bledsoe will most certainly help in his development.

Also it's a bit premature to gauge a QB's performances during a 3 day mini camp in april. If anything Payton isn't sold on Bouman or Mcpherson because they were Haslet and the previous regime's guys. They will have to distinguish themselves this summer.

 

[arglebargle]

Romo would be of greater value to Payton than most any other team. Familiarity with the system, coach, etc. With a QB starter coming back from a serious injury, it might be useful.

Still, if I am Payton, I would wait: Use all this year's early draft picks to get guys who can possibly help this year, and trade next year's (hopefully) lesser picks for players. Why trade this year's third when you can wait a bit and trade next years? Also gives him some time to see how his inherited/newly signed guys do....

 

[Alexander]

Your right, that team is the Dallas Cowboys....if Payton wants Henson then sure I'd trade him in a heartbeat for a 7th rounder but Romo has great potential and another year or two under Bledsoe will most certainly help in his development.

Let me understand you correctly.

You would not trade Romo under any circumstances, yet would gladly trade Henson for a seventh round choice?

What exactly makes you think Romo has any more potential than Henson?

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Romo would be of greater value to Payton than most any other team. Familiarity with the system, coach, etc. With a QB starter coming back from a serious injury, it might be useful.

Still, if I am Payton, I would wait: Use all this year's early draft picks to get guys who can possibly help this year, and trade next year's (hopefully) lesser picks for players. Why trade this year's third when you can wait a bit and trade next years? Also gives him some time to see how his inherited/newly signed guys do....

Henson would be a better fit for Payton IMO, and hopefully he lands there if we cut him this summer. I really think that Romo is going to have an outstanding training camp and really make some noise....don't get me wrong nobody is going to threaten the starting job because that is Bledsoe, but Romo showed me some good things last summer and I think he poised to bust out.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Let me understand you correctly.

You would not trade Romo under any circumstances, yet would gladly trade Henson for a seventh round choice?

What exactly makes you think Romo has any more potential than Henson?

Actually, I would trade Romo under the right circumstances....but I don't think any team (saints included) is going to offer anything more than a 6th or 7th rounder....same thing Henson is worth at this point.

I liked what I saw from Romo, and plus as the number 2 guy he took more reps than Henson last season....watching Bledsoe likely didn't hurt either. Last summer he showed a strong pocket precense and made some very good throws when he was in preseason games against 2nd stringers and in some cases 1st team units. Henson played againt the 3rd stringers and guys who were ultimately cut for the most part.

I predict that Romo is going to make some noise this summer....Not saying he's the QB of the future, but I really think he has a chance!

 

[Jarv]

Both Romo and Henson have much more pocket presense than Bledsoe...If our O-line does not improve this year, our best chance could lie in the young guns.

Its Bledsoes last year here anyway...As I think BP will quit also, after this year.

It all depends on the O-line being perfect for Bledsoe. His lack of awareness and having lost what little speed he never really had means he can't do what we have seen Henson do in NFLE (Throwing TD's after buying time) and Romo doing the same in pre-season.

I would hate to give up on either of our young guys being that Bledsoe will be outta football in 2007. We must think to the future and stop living in the past.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Both Romo and Henson have much more pocket presense than Bledsoe...If our O-line does not improve this year, our best chance could lie in the young guns.

Its Bledsoes last year here anyway...As I think BP will quit also, after this year.

It all depends on the O-line being perfect for Bledsoe. His lack of awareness and having lost what little speed he never really had means he can't do what we have seen Henson do in NFLE (Throwing TD's after buying time) and Romo doing the same in pre-season.

I would hate to give up on either of our young guys being that Bledsoe will be outta football in 2007. We must think to the future and stop living in the past.

I agree. Henson is making good progress in NFLE, which is great timing.

Romo and Henson will need to have good TC's this year and say the right things in PC's. Then 2007 could be the year of the young guns, while Bledsoe is Bill's caddy.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Both Romo and Henson have much more pocket presense than Bledsoe...If our O-line does not improve this year, our best chance could lie in the young guns.

Its Bledsoes last year here anyway...As I think BP will quit also, after this year.

It all depends on the O-line being perfect for Bledsoe. His lack of awareness and having lost what little speed he never really had means he can't do what we have seen Henson do in NFLE (Throwing TD's after buying time) and Romo doing the same in pre-season.

I would hate to give up on either of our young guys being that Bledsoe will be outta football in 2007. We must think to the future and stop living in the past.

No...Romo and Henson aren't better in the pocket that Bledsoe...make that claim after they've played 14 years in the NFL and have made the type of clutch plays under pressure that Bledsoe has.

This might very well be Bledsoe's last year in the NFL if he wins a championship, but something tells me he would want to come back for another and go out with multiple titles like Elway did. Plus he still has a chance to finish in the top 3 of every single passing record.

I'm sick of hearing that he needs an all pro offensive line to be any good, you must be thinking of Peyton Manning, Trent Green or Matt Hassleback...because Drew has never had an offensive line that had multiple probowlers on it...in fact I'm pretty sure he's never played in an offense that's sent more than 2 players from offense to the probowl(himself included in the years he made it)

Bledsoe is only 34....some of you guys act like he's a dinosaur or something.....the best is yet to come!

 

[gbrittain]

No...Romo and Henson aren't better in the pocket that Bledsoe...make that claim after they've played 14 years in the NFL and have made the type of clutch plays under pressure that Bledsoe has.

This might very well be Bledsoe's last year in the NFL if he wins a championship, but something tells me he would want to come back for another and go out with multiple titles like Elway did. Plus he still has a chance to finish in the top 3 of every single passing record.

I'm sick of hearing that he needs an all pro offensive line to be any good, you must be thinking of Peyton Manning, Trent Green or Matt Hassleback...because Drew has never had an offensive line that had multiple probowlers on it...in fact I'm pretty sure he's never played in an offense that's sent more than 2 players from offense to the probowl(himself included in the years he made it)



Bledsoe is only 34....some of you guys act like he's a dinosaur or something.....the best is yet to come!

I'm sick of hearing that he needs an all pro offensive line to be any good, you must be thinking of Peyton Manning, Trent Green or Matt Hassleback

Alright you know I respectefully have to disagree with you on a weekly basis or something is wrong in the world.

So here goes. Drew Bledsoe is going on his 14th year in the league and has never posted a QB rating above 90. I wonder if that is some kind of record or not. Even Vinny T has posted a 90+ rating once in his career.

Maybe other QBs have played 13+ years in the NFL as a starter and never posted a 90+ QB rating, but it has to be rare.

He has only topped an 80+ rating 5 times in his 13 year career.

So I guess I am saying is either A) he does need an All Pro offensive line to be good or B) he is a tad overrated.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Alright you know I respectefully have to disagree with you on a weekly basis or something is wrong in the world.

So here goes. Drew Bledsoe is going on his 14th year in the league and has never posted a QB rating above 90. I wonder if that is some kind of record or not. Even Vinny T has posted a 90+ rating once in his career.

Maybe other QBs have played 13+ years in the NFL as a starter and never posted a 90+ QB rating, but it has to be rare.

He has only topped an 80+ rating 5 times in his 13 year career.

So I guess I am saying is either A) he does need an All Pro offensive line to be good or B) he is a tad overrated.

QB rating is the most overrated stat in the game, means nothing really....when you pass the ball 75% of the time, your going to have a lower completion rating and get sacked more....that's where the whole rating thing comes into play...because Drew's lifetime competion rating is under 60%.

Big Ben was the winning QB in the superbowl and posted a 22 rating.

 

[Zaxor]

You can't put a all pro line in front of bledsoe... it is impossible... because as soon as you do they become all kinds of sucky:bang2:

 

[gbrittain]

QB rating is the most overrated stat in the game, means nothing really....when you pass the ball 75% of the time, your going to have a lower completion rating and get sacked more....that's where the whole rating thing comes into play...because Drew's lifetime competion rating is under 60%.

Big Ben was the winning QB in the superbowl and posted a 22 rating.

I agree that the QB rating does not properly evaluate a QB. However, never in a 13 year modern era NFL career posting over 90 QB rating and only surpassing 80 five times is enough to make one wonder.

I am not saying anything definitive here, but maybe you know of some other modern era QBs who have played 13+ years and only surpassed 80+ five times.

Wether you like the stat or not a sub 80 QB rating usually is accompanied by a year in which the QB threw as many INTs as TDs.

 

[Zaxor]

Alright you know I respectefully have to disagree with you on a weekly basis or something is wrong in the world.

So here goes. Drew Bledsoe is going on his 14th year in the league and has never posted a QB rating above 90. I wonder if that is some kind of record or not. Even Vinny T has posted a 90+ rating once in his career.

Maybe other QBs have played 13+ years in the NFL as a starter and never posted a 90+ QB rating, but it has to be rare.

He has only topped an 80+ rating 5 times in his 13 year career.

So I guess I am saying is either A) he does need an All Pro offensive line to be good or B) he is a tad overrated.

that is what I been telling those guys attached to Bledsoe's nads...the guy is really mediocre...and really there is nothing the matter with that..it just isn't good enough for my beloved Dallas Cowboys

 

[gbrittain]

You can't put a all pro line in front of bledsoe... it is impossible... because as soon as you do they become all kinds of sucky:bang2:

Yeah, that is kind of my opinion as well. It just seams as though there is always an excuse of some sorts for all the negative things associated with Drew Bledsoe.

No matter what the stat or situation there is always an excuse or explanation for Drew B.

One thing about is for sure. If I am wrong about Drew Bledsoe and he is truly a HOF QB, he should be awarded something for having the all time worst luck of any QB to ever play in the NFL. Guy can't catch a break.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

that is what I been telling those guys attached to Bledsoe's nads...the guy is really mediocre...and really there is nothing the matter with that..it just isn't good enough for my beloved Dallas Cowboys

Serioulsy man, what is your beef with Bledsoe? Would you rather have quincy carter or vinnie testerverde back?

QB RATING IS MEANINGLESS....get over it!

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Yeah, that is kind of my opinion as well. It just seams as though there is always an excuse of some sorts for all the negative things associated with Drew Bledsoe.

No matter what the stat or situation there is always an excuse or explanation for Drew B.

One thing about is for sure. If I am wrong about Drew Bledsoe and he is truly a HOF QB, he should be awarded something for having the all time worst luck of any QB to ever play in the NFL. Guy can't catch a break.

If you have followed his career from the pats to the bills and now the cowboys you would realize that he has done so much with so little talent around him.....the mark of a truly great NFL QB.