Reggie Nelson scores a 12 on Wonderlic Test

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Honestly, I don't even know why the NFL continues to administer the outdated and meaningless test. They obviously don't put much, if any, stock in it. Have you ever heard of a player's stock dropping or rising because of a Wonderlic Test result? Ever heard of a player falling a round or two in the draft because they had a bad wonderlic score? Remember when Vince Young was going to drop because of his Wonderlic score? Where was he taken when it was all said and done? #3. The Top QB taken.

It's an offseason conversation piece, but by and large its proven to be completely meaningless as an indicator on the field. An instinctive football player with a wonderlic score of 8 will pick up the game faster than a non-instinctive player who's good at taking tests and gets a score of 42.
 

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YoungBuck;1443169 said:
Reggie Nelson signed with Florida out of highschool but didn't meet academic requirements to enroll. He spent his first two years at Coffeyville (Kansas) Community College and transfered to Florida in 2005. I didn't need this test to tell me he's stupid, just look at his history.

Either that or he doesnt care about things like history and geography. Im sorry but more than half of that test is similar to trivial pursuit and has nothing to do with critical thinking or learning skills.
 

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InmanRoshi;1443276 said:
Honestly, I don't even know why the NFL continues to administer the outdated and meaningless test. They obviously don't put much, if any, stock in it. Have you ever heard of a player's stock dropping or rising because of a Wonderlic Test result? Ever heard of a player falling a round or two in the draft because they had a bad wonderlic score? Remember when Vince Young was going to drop because of his Wonderlic score? Where was he taken when it was all said and done? #3. The Top QB taken.

It's an offseason conversation piece, but by and large its proven to be completely meaningless as an indicator on the field. An instinctive football player with a wonderlic score of 8 will pick up the game faster than a non-instinctive player who's good at taking tests and gets a score of 42.

the wonderlic simply adds another piece to the overall puzzle of the player

sure, you will not be knocked down a round or two solely b'c of the wonderlic.

However, if two players have equal/comparable measurements in every fashion, but one scored a 40 on the wonderlic and the other scored a 12. Which player do you take?

In another scenario, you are about to hire two, fresh out of college guys to work in your company.
They are equally qualified in every way, one has a 3.5 GPA and the other has 2.5 GPA. Who will you hire?
 

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InmanRoshi;1443276 said:
Honestly, I don't even know why the NFL continues to administer the outdated and meaningless test. They obviously don't put much, if any, stock in it.

So they don't put stock in it but the folks who pay for the combine continue to administer it?

Please review your logic here.
 

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Agree with you. The whole thing about this is that it is us (draft nerds) and the media who makes it into a bigger deal than it is. Sure the teams use it as a "piece to the puzzle" as has been mentioned, but its only a little piece. They dont put that much weight on it though. It's "just another piece." So no its not meaningless, and no its not near as important as play on the field.
 

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abersonc;1443297 said:
So they don't put stock in it but the folks who pay for the combine continue to administer it?

Please review your logic here.

pleae review the logic where knowing what continent Uruguay has to do with somes intelligence or ability to learn. The wonderlic is more akin to trivial pursuit than it is an intelligence test.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1443299 said:
pleae review the logic where knowing what continent Uruguay has to do with somes intelligence or ability to learn. The wonderlic is more akin to trivial pursuit than it is an intelligence test.

No, the wonderlic tests basic reasoning, attention to detail, some basic vocabularly, and logic. Knowledge of trivia has nothing to do with the test. Please see the sample items below. Many questions are simple -- but the test has a time limit, making it a measure of speed of mental processing as well.



1. Look at the row of numbers below. What number comes next?

8, 4, 2, 1, 1/2, 1/4 ?

4
1/2
1/8
1/4
1



2. Assume the first two statements are true.

The boy plays football. All football players wear helmets. The boy wears a helmet.

Is the final statement:

True?
False?
Not Certain



3. How many of the five pairs of items below are exact duplicates?

Nieman, K.M. Neiman, K.M.
Thomas, G.K. Thomas, C.K.
Hoff, J.P. Hoff, J.P.
Pino, L.R. Pina, L.R.
Warner, T.S. Wanner, T.S.
 

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Future 585;1441631 said:
i think vince young proved last year that that test is pretty much overrated

How do you figure? Young beat defenses with his legs, not by dissecting coverages and hitting the open wr.
 

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Out of all the testing that is done during the off-season this test means the least to me. Nelson may never be a CEO of a company, or build rocket ships for NASA but if he can cover, tackle and make plays I don't care if uses an X as his signature
 

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mmillman;1443487 said:
How do you figure? Young beat defenses with his legs, not by dissecting coverages and hitting the open wr.

Young is a perfect example of how the test should be used. He scored low so when the Titans had him in for an interview he spent some extra time with Norm Chow going over the offense so the team could get a sense of how well he could grasp the information. Clearly he passed that part of the test - the Wonderlic score told teams they better do a bit more HW on the guy's head.

Of course, if it was a QB who was slated to be a 2nd day pick, he'd likely never get that follow-up and many teams would take him off the board.
 
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