Remember our game vs the Colts a few years back

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Man, we played great on defense. I remember our guys jamming the WR's, not letting them get into any rhythm.

It was CLEARLY the reason why we won the game.

What happened to that??
 

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What happened to it? Half the players are in Miami with Parcells.

And I'm glad. I'll take this Phillips defense over Parcells' version anyday.

We'll be fine on defense. Trust me. Bookmark this post and bring it up to me after our bye week when we play Atlanta.
 

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For the life of me I can't figure out why we don't jam receivers at the line. We would rather give them a 5 yard cushion.:banghead:
 

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Our defense played with heart, even good ole roy williams had a play or two. We pounded the ball in and threw when needed.
 

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Our nickle/dime pass rush was awesome that game.... Ware, Canty, Ratliff, Ellis.

2/4th's of that is gone. You do the math.


That was also Ratliff's coming out party iirc.
 

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cml750;2972110 said:
For the life of me I can't figure out why we don't jam receivers at the line. We would rather give them a 5 yard cushion.:banghead:

Because we dont want to give up the big play.
 

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NextGenBoys;2972104 said:
What happened to it? Half the players are in Miami with Parcells.

And I'm glad. I'll take this Phillips defense over Parcells' version anyday.

We'll be fine on defense. Trust me. Bookmark this post and bring it up to me after our bye week when we play Atlanta.

Gawd, I hope you're right. What on earth makes you so confident?
 

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We played that way in PIT at the end of last season.
 

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NextGenBoys;2972122 said:
Because we dont want to give up the big play.


Exactly!!!

You give a cushion to prevent the WR from just running past you for a big gain. The thinking is that by giving up only short gains that you will make an offense have to run 8 or 9 plays to score and that at some point they will make a mistake that you can capitalize on (fumble, tipped pass, ect...).

The downside to this style of defensive play is that you normally dont get alot of interceptions since teams basically take the short passes that you are giving them. Also, if you cant generate any pressure with your normal rush packages, you will get ripped to shreds playing this style of defense.

Which helps to explain why we are the worst team in the NFL against the pass. (303 yds per game, ranks us at 32nd according to NFL.com).
 

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YoMick;2972069 said:
Man, we played great on defense. I remember our guys jamming the WR's, not letting them get into any rhythm.

It was CLEARLY the reason why we won the game.

What happened to that??

It was called a "fluke"
 

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cml750;2972110 said:
For the life of me I can't figure out why we don't jam receivers at the line. We would rather give them a 5 yard cushion.:banghead:

5 yards? Your being generous.

I dont know if it's out corners or Wade's philiosophy or a combination of both but our defense makes me ill.
 

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Idgit;2972189 said:
We played that way in PIT at the end of last season.



Yeah that performance shocked me. Best they played all year until Newman opened the flood gates.
 

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stilltheguru;2972261 said:
Yeah that performance shocked me. Best they played all year until Newman opened the flood gates.

What flood gates? The Steelers had one td and their offense was boo'd off the field on almost every possession.
 

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JBell523;2972118 said:
Our nickle/dime pass rush was awesome that game.... Ware, Canty, Ratliff, Ellis.

2/4th's of that is gone. You do the math.


That was also Ratliff's coming out party iirc.

Ellis did not play in that game against the Colts in 2006. He tore his Achilles the week before at Arizona.
 

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stilltheguru;2972261 said:
Yeah that performance shocked me. Best they played all year until Newman opened the flood gates.

Newman gave up one big play and Pitt was still unable to score on that drive. Dallas held on a nice goal line stand.
 

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Beast_from_East;2972193 said:
Exactly!!!

You give a cushion to prevent the WR from just running past you for a big gain
. The thinking is that by giving up only short gains that you will make an offense have to run 8 or 9 plays to score and that at some point they will make a mistake that you can capitalize on (fumble, tipped pass, ect...).

The downside to this style of defensive play is that you normally dont get alot of interceptions since teams basically take the short passes that you are giving them. Also, if you cant generate any pressure with your normal rush packages, you will get ripped to shreds playing this style of defense.

Which helps to explain why we are the worst team in the NFL against the pass. (303 yds per game, ranks us at 32nd according to NFL.com).

Our pass rush is good enough though that they won't have to hold on forever.

They need to do something to re-direct the route or throw off the timing and make the QB look somewhere else.
And im not saying every corner has to do it. Just make the corner guarding who ever you believe to be the primary receiver do it occasionaly.

We shouldn't let receivers just come off the line nice and clean the entire game.

3 step drop passes are going to hurt us all year if we don't get a little physical with the receivers from time to time.
 

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JBell523;2972118 said:
Our nickle/dime pass rush was awesome that game.... Ware, Canty, Ratliff, Ellis.

2/4th's of that is gone. You do the math.


That was also Ratliff's coming out party iirc.

Actually Ellis was out for the year when we played that game.
 
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