Remember when you wanted Charles Rogers?

[AbeBeta]

Yeah -- he's really come back from that drug suspension with a vengeance -- just like he said he would.

Lions | Rogers Needs to Step Up to Play
Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:59:17 -0800

The Detroit Free Press reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers was not active for Week 9 because he did not have a good week of practice, according to team president Matt Millen. "I expected more out of him," Millen said. Millen noted he wants to see Rogers run full speed, practice hard and do all the things they've seen from him before.

 

[HardHittin'Witten]

i never wanted Rogers. the guy has never proven anything in the NFL.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Yeah -- he's really come back from that drug suspension with a vengeance -- just like he said he would.

Lions | Rogers Needs to Step Up to Play
Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:59:17 -0800

The Detroit Free Press reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers was not active for Week 9 because he did not have a good week of practice, according to team president Matt Millen. "I expected more out of him," Millen said. Millen noted he wants to see Rogers run full speed, practice hard and do all the things they've seen from him before.

What Detroit needs is someone like Parcells who will whip the team to shape. LIved in detroit for 8 years and from what I know, ever since Sanders days, that team has never been a team that works hard.

Sanders was notorious for being a loner and not much of team guy, i.e. he would mostly skip off season workouts with team. From all reports I heard, the team really never practices hard that much. It doesn't matter who the coach is, thats been the reputation of Detroit. ANd then there is the issue with QBs. Seems like Detroit is a place where QBs go to get their career distroyed or never even get started.

Millen needs to get a Coughlin/BP type of coach next, who will ride the team real hard.

 

[jlust22]

Well maybe Detroit can draft another WR in the top 10 next year because the three they have aren't making a bit of difference. Rogers had red flags dating back to his days at MSU, Roy Williams is always hurt and Mike Williams looks very pedestrian out there. It usually takes WR's time to adapt to the NFL, but Mike Williams looks like just a guy out there with no speed or explosion. I know he was a hot topic on this board before the Draft, but I have come away very unimpressed with him this year. At any rate, it just goes to show how stupid Detroit was for trying to build their team by drafting WR's in the 1st round every year. That is a dumb strategy and it's amazing how Millen keeps his job.

 

[AbeBeta]

What's dumber is having 3 high picks at WR and having crap QBs throwing to them.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well maybe Detroit can draft another WR in the top 10 next year because the three they have aren't making a bit of difference. Rogers had red flags dating back to his days at MSU, Roy Williams is always hurt and Mike Williams looks very pedestrian out there. It usually takes WR's time to adapt to the NFL, but Mike Williams looks like just a guy out there with no speed or explosion. I know he was a hot topic on this board before the Draft, but I have come away very unimpressed with him this year. At any rate, it just goes to show how stupid Detroit was for trying to build their team by drafting WR's in the 1st round every year. That is a dumb strategy and it's amazing how Millen keeps his job.

I agree on Williams. My buddy Hos and others thought this guy was going to really great but he certainly doesn't look the part to me. His lack of speed seems very apparent at this level.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

Yes I do remember when I wanted Rogers....silly me!

Crow with BBQ sauce is tasty btw....

 

[RCowboyFan]

Well maybe Detroit can draft another WR in the top 10 next year because the three they have aren't making a bit of difference. Rogers had red flags dating back to his days at MSU, Roy Williams is always hurt and Mike Williams looks very pedestrian out there. It usually takes WR's time to adapt to the NFL, but Mike Williams looks like just a guy out there with no speed or explosion. I know he was a hot topic on this board before the Draft, but I have come away very unimpressed with him this year. At any rate, it just goes to show how stupid Detroit was for trying to build their team by drafting WR's in the 1st round every year. That is a dumb strategy and it's amazing how Millen keeps his job.

The sad thing about Mike Williams is that an Undrafted WR is out playing him. Scott Vines, is sure outplaying Mike Williams. For an undrafted WR, he doesn't look like one. Charles Rogers is pretty much a wasted pick now.

For the record I did like Charles Rogers coming of Michigan State, although I thought he had issues with catching the ball sometimes. I didn't like Mike Williams and never liked Roy Williams that much, since I thought he was injured too much and also never seen why he was hyped so much.

I thought I was wrong last year about Roy, but boy, he sure can't stay healthy. No matter how talented you are, if you can't stay healthy it doesn't matter, cause you can't produce if you are not on the field.

Thats why I hate it when people say this WR or RB could have been the greatest if they stayed healthy etc. Well no kidding, being healthy is also key to being great. Heck, I am guessing Fred Taylor probably would be among great RBs if he stayed healthy consistantly.

 

[Eddie]

I won't lie ... I wanted Mike Williams.

 

[AbeBeta]

Yes I do remember when I wanted Rogers....silly me!

Crow with BBQ sauce is tasty btw....

Stepping up like a man Portland.

 

[joseephuss]

The sad thing about Mike Williams is that an Undrafted WR is out playing him. Scott Vines, is sure outplaying Mike Williams. For an undrafted WR, he doesn't look like one. Charles Rogers is pretty much a wasted pick now.

For the record I did like Charles Rogers coming of Michigan State, although I thought he had issues with catching the ball sometimes. I didn't like Mike Williams and never liked Roy Williams that much, since I thought he was injured too much and also never seen why he was hyped so much.

I thought I was wrong last year about Roy, but boy, he sure can't stay healthy. No matter how talented you are, if you can't stay healthy it doesn't matter, cause you can't produce if you are not on the field.

Thats why I hate it when people say this WR or RB could have been the greatest if they stayed healthy etc. Well no kidding, being healthy is also key to being great. Heck, I am guessing Fred Taylor probably would be among great RBs if he stayed healthy consistantly.

Right on. That is why Jim Brown and Walter Payton are two of the greatest. They were always at the game. Brown never missed a game and Walter missed one his rookie season that he said he deeply regreted missing.

 

[Charles]

What's dumber is having 3 high picks at WR and having crap QBs throwing to them.

The Lions selected Mike Williams because the decision makers in the organization knew Charlie Rogers was a 2 time offender. His days in Detroit IMHO are numbered.

It is very similar to the Bills scenario when they selected Willis Mcghee even though they already had a an above average runner in Travis Henry. He was already in the substance abuse program for roids and weed.

I think the same happened her with Quincy Carter. Jerry Jones kept hedging his bet with other prospects instead of going after a veteran to help Carter because was in the drug program.

Another similar scenario was NewOrleans drafting Deuce Mcalister when they had Ricky Williams.

Next time you see a team overload at a position think twice.

 

[scottsp]

I don't know that the problem in Detroit is Mike Williams or Charles Rogers. The problems seem to run deeper than those guys, Kevin Jones, Roy Williams, etc., IMO.

 

[AbeBeta]

The Lions selected Mike Williams because the decision makers in the organization knew Charlie Rogers was a 2 time offender. His days in Detroit IMHO are numbered.

I'm not complaining -- I figured they would take Ware and we'd be stuck with Merriman.

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

The sad thing about Mike Williams is that an Undrafted WR is out playing him. Scott Vines, is sure outplaying Mike Williams. For an undrafted WR, he doesn't look like one. Charles Rogers is pretty much a wasted pick now.

For the record I did like Charles Rogers coming of Michigan State, although I thought he had issues with catching the ball sometimes. I didn't like Mike Williams and never liked Roy Williams that much, since I thought he was injured too much and also never seen why he was hyped so much.

I thought I was wrong last year about Roy, but boy, he sure can't stay healthy. No matter how talented you are, if you can't stay healthy it doesn't matter, cause you can't produce if you are not on the field.

Thats why I hate it when people say this WR or RB could have been the greatest if they stayed healthy etc. Well no kidding, being healthy is also key to being great. Heck, I am guessing Fred Taylor probably would be among great RBs if he stayed healthy consistantly.

i hate when people say "so and so can't stay healthy" like its their fault. ITS NOT A CHOICE, injury's happen, some players are more prone but for 95 % of the league it just is freak stuff that happens. Roy was always healthy when he was playing at Texas, and has only been hurt a few times in the NFL. just dont blame him its not his choice.

 

[joseephuss]

i hate when people say "so and so can't stay healthy" like its their fault. ITS NOT A CHOICE, injury's happen, some players are more prone but for 95 % of the league it just is freak stuff that happens. Roy was always healthy when he was playing at Texas, and has only been hurt a few times in the NFL. just dont blame him its not his choice.

Roy missed a few games due to ankle injuries and hamstring problems at Texas. It is not his fault, but he is the one missing time and that hurts the team. Same with Julius here in Dallas. Unfortunate injuries that make it difficult to evaluate the player and their contribution to the team.

 

[Hiero]

I also really wanted Williams but I am not yet ready to eat crow. he's on a horrible team and will take a bit to get started imo because of the year off.
I think a lot of people that wanted Rogers had an "IF" attached to it as I did. I wanted Rogers "IF" Parcells deems that he has cleaned up his act. apparently he hasn't, or maybe hes trying to force them to cut him? i have no idea.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Charles Rogers was an absolute stud in college, BUT and it's a big BUT, he had major character questions going all the way back to high school.

He's another one of those players that oozed so much physical talent that an NFL team ignored obvious red flags and now it's come back to bite them in the rear.

 

[TheHustler]

What's dumber is having 3 high picks at WR and having crap QBs throwing to them.

Joey Harrington was at the top of his draft class. At least the Lions are TRYING to get a franchise QB....

 

[THUMPER]

Yeah -- he's really come back from that drug suspension with a vengeance -- just like he said he would.

Lions | Rogers Needs to Step Up to Play
Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:59:17 -0800

The Detroit Free Press reports Detroit Lions WR Charles Rogers was not active for Week 9 because he did not have a good week of practice, according to team president Matt Millen. "I expected more out of him," Millen said. Millen noted he wants to see Rogers run full speed, practice hard and do all the things they've seen from him before.

I remember people here were posting that we should trade LaRoi Glover or Greg Ellis AND a 1st rounder for Rogers. I couldn't believe what I was reading.

The guy has done nothing but get hurt, do drugs, and generally screw off since being drafted. I wouldn't trade a 7th rounder for him.