Replacing Allen more pressing than replacing Pettiti

[Rack]

Replacing Allen more pressing than replacing Pettiti

 

[Qwickdraw]

I think it's safe to say that everyone on our O-line is a concern except Flozell.

And that's assuming he's healthy.

 

[Deacon Moss]

I have read a lot here about our most pressing need is to upgrade at RT, but I vehemently disagree! Larry Allen is probably one of the best linemen to ever play the game. That being said, he is at the end of his career and we have no replacement should he retire, get cut, or go down to injury. Pettiti struggled this year, and as a rookie, he should have. He was no where near as much a liability as Tucker on the left side, however (Remember the Skins game!). Rob has room to grow at the RT position and I for one would like to see him get the chance.

With Flo coming back next year, Tucker can switch to the right side and compete with Pettiti for RT. Columbo might be in the mix after an off season of strength and conditioning. But as far as LG goes, we don't have any prospect right now of filling that hole. Peterman and Gurode are not going to make it there.

Everyone talking about taking a tackle in the first round has to stop and look at the situation. Pettiti has a brighter future than Allen. Not that Allen isn't better at this time, but year after next, will that be the case?

If we don't address LG this off season, we will be hurting real bad in 2007.

Are you sure??? Lets say he did outplay Tucker in the 'skins game, what about the other 15???
I hate to break it to you, but if BP was'nt the coach, he would've been cut a long time ago!!!

 

[Sarge]

Sarge and Fletch, thanks for defending me against a charge of idiocy!

No prob. Some are automatically thinking you are saying Petitti is better than Allen. Sure, Allen is the better player but the question posed, and again, it is legit, is, is he worth the $ he is receiving in comparison to the $ Petitti is getting.

It's not as simple as the old response.

I actually think BOTH are areas of serious concern.

LA is getting older and it is showing. Further, there is no guarantee that just because Petitti is in year 2 next year, that doesn't mean he is automatically going to be better. We've made that assumption WAY too many time of late. We've made that assumption to a fault.

 

[Dallas31]

Pettiti struggled this year, and as a rookie, he should have. He was no where near as much a liability as Tucker on the left side, however.

I beg to differ. Tucker played much better at LT than Rob did at RT.

Tucker can switch to the right side and compete with Pettiti for RT. Columbo might be in the mix after an off season of strength and conditioning.

Colombo is the only one of the 3 that I would consider starting. Rob will be on the bench, and Tucker has an outside shot at starting, if we don't sign a free agent there or draft a RT.

There is no chance that Rob is our starting RT on opening day in 2006. You can bet the farm on that.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I still believe LA will play for us 2 more years.....

 

[Kangaroo]

I have read a lot here about our most pressing need is to upgrade at RT, but I vehemently disagree! Larry Allen is probably one of the best linemen to ever play the game. That being said, he is at the end of his career and we have no replacement should he retire, get cut, or go down to injury. Pettiti struggled this year, and as a rookie, he should have. He was no where near as much a liability as Tucker on the left side, however (Remember the Skins game!). Rob has room to grow at the RT position and I for one would like to see him get the chance.

With Flo coming back next year, Tucker can switch to the right side and compete with Pettiti for RT. Columbo might be in the mix after an off season of strength and conditioning. But as far as LG goes, we don't have any prospect right now of filling that hole. Peterman and Gurode are not going to make it there.

Everyone talking about taking a tackle in the first round has to stop and look at the situation. Pettiti has a brighter future than Allen. Not that Allen isn't better at this time, but year after next, will that be the case?

If we don't address LG this off season, we will be hurting real bad in 2007.

Tucker should be playing guard where he is better suited and played in college

 

[canters]

*******

 

[canters]

That, my friend, is a ridiculous statement to make. Serviceable? Allen is the best player we have on our line. Has been, and will be next season.

Just who do you think we should replace him with? How may 10 time Pro Bowl, All Pro, First Ballot Hall of Famer, OG's are we gonna be able to find this offseason?

7 Million is cheap.

I think we agree more than you may think. He ain't the player he was, but we cannot do better right now.

I would like to see his salary cut right now for cap space.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think we agree more than disagree. He ain't the player he was, but we cannot do better right now.
I would like to see his salary cut down some for cap room.

Why can't we do better? Allen is not playing good ball and is at the end of his career. I don't want to see Dallas restructure his salary because I think at the most he only has 1 season left if that.

 

[canters]

Allen is not playing good ball and is at the end of his career. I don't want to see Dallas restructure his salary because I think at the most he only has 1 season left if that.

Allen is near the end, I agree. But he was better than Rivera. I would like to see us find a nice solid guard in his prime, or draft one.

I bet he signs a cap friendly deal and comes back, and starts.

 

[Doomsday101]

Allen is near the end, I agree. But he was better than Rivera. I would like to see us find a nice solid guard in his prime, or draft one.
I bet he signs a cap friendly deal and comes back, and starts.

You could be right and if Allen does return I hope it is not at 8 million but Dallas has to find his replacement because I don't see Allen going beyond this season and have doubts about his ability heading into next season. Please don’t get me wrong I have enjoyed having Larry Allen on this team but he is not getting the job done.

 

[Clove]

Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia 6' 4"/340 lbs (2nd round pick)
An absolute monster, could be better than LA in the future.

 

[canters]

Would love to get Gilles. If we go RT in round one, I don't see us goind OL again in the 2nd, but who knows. I look forward to the draft!

 

[fortdick]

That, my friend, is a ridiculous statement to make. Serviceable? Allen is the best player we have on our line. Has been, and will be next season.

Just who do you think we should replace him with? How may 10 time Pro Bowl, All Pro, First Ballot Hall of Famer, OG's are we gonna be able to find this offseason?

7 Million is cheap.

Please read the original post!

Larry Allen is probably one of the best linemen to ever play the game. That being said, he is at the end of his career and we have no replacement should he retire, get cut, or go down to injury. . . . .

Everyone talking about taking a tackle in the first round has to stop and look at the situation. Pettiti has a brighter future than Allen. Not that Allen isn't better at this time, but year after next, will that be the case?

If we don't address LG this off season, we will be hurting real bad in 2007.

Everyone says give Peterman a break because he was injured in '04, move Tucker to guard, bring in a rookie to replace Rob, replace Rivera despite playing with his injury (a criticism not applied to Peterman), etc. The problem with our OLine is more of a lack of experience than a lack of talent. We can't afford to experiment at the left guard spot.

All I am saying is that there is room for improvement with Pettiti, while Allen is going to fade quickly. I would rather have Rob at RT and an experienced replacement for Allen than to have a great RT and an unproven rookie at LG.

And to those that say Tucker played well at LT, what games were you watching? Bledsoe was pressured from the back side the entire time Tucker was out there! Look at the stats before and after Flo went down. 'Nuff said!

 

[TNCowboy]

The flowers for Petitti - in this and other threads - are downright nauseating. If it weren't for some of his family posting here, he'd be scalded, just as he is on every other Cowboy forum. He's slow, weak and unathletic. I don't see anything whatsoever to build on. Looking back to '04, Tucker was much better at RT than Petitti was this year.

"Rob can grow"....I guess we could say that about any player who's on the 53 man roster. But from what I saw this year and what I've seen in the past, Petitti is the worst offensive tackle in my memory. He was utterly helpless out there almost every game, in spite of getting a lot of help.

If we don't get a new starting RT - and get Flo back healthy - then next season will almost certainly be a bust. If they upgrade the position at all, Petitti will have little chance to even make the team.

 

[Seven]

So...... If this is LA's last year, which IMO it is, how do you restructure an 8 million dollar deal for a year? Give him7.5 up front? If he's thinking this is his his last year forget the restructure. I agree with Fort in his synopsis and it rolls right into QuickDraws comment........the OL is in shambles. One offseason would be hard pressed to make it little more than average even if we acquire through FA.

 

[Doomsday101]

So...... If this is LA's last year, which IMO it is, how do you restructure an 8 million dollar deal for a year? Give him7.5 up front? If he's thinking this is his his last year forget the restructure. I agree with Fort in his synopsis and it rolls right into QuickDraws comment........the OL is in shambles. One offseason would be hard pressed to make it little more than average even if we acquire through FA.

I agree and I think this is the dilemma for the Cowboys. Your not going to restructure a contract if they guy is only going to play 1 more season and 8 mill is a big chunk of change to pay a guy who's play has dropped off as much as Larry's has. This is not an easy choice for the Cowboys to make but I think in the end the best move would be to move on without Larry.

 

[eduncan22]

Why can't we do better? Allen is not playing good ball and is at the end of his career. I don't want to see Dallas restructure his salary because I think at the most he only has 1 season left if that.

I thought LA went to the Pro Bowl...again.

Who do you think we should replace him with?

 

[Doomsday101]

I thought LA went to the Pro Bowl...again.

Who do you think we should replace him with?

Sorry I don't think Pro Bowl means that much any more especially with fan balloting because it is about name recognition rather than who deserves to go to the Pro Bowl. As for whom do you replace him with? I never said it would be an easy decision but still one I think this team has to deal with. Larry’s game is not that good any longer and clearly not worth 8 mill dollars. Dallas can deal with it this off-season or next and I just think we would be better off dealing with it now and saving some money in the process.