Report: NFL could push for 18-game schedule in labor talks

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think this keeps coming up because the owners know the players are against it.

This way it looks like they are giving them something when they take it off the table. It is all gamesmanship.

An 11% increase in product translates to more money. That is why it keeps coming up. Now that they have their web streaming deals done they need new sources of revenue to grow. Growth at all costs is their main gig with everything they do.

 

[mrmojo]

So much for player safety.....but also idk if I want 2 more games, too much of a good thing isn't always good.

 

[Doomsday101]

Myself I hope they stay with the 16. Those who say 2 pre season and 18 reg I think starters see much of their playing time in 2 out of the 4 pre season games after all they need the snaps to get ready so now you have a situation where starters are playing in 20 games. IR list for a 16 game season is big enough add more games and that IR list will get bigger as well.

 

[glimmerman]

Wonder if there will be bigger contracts if there is 2 more regular season games

 

[StuckMojo]

Stick with the way it is now.

 

[Reid1boys]

Oh...well, just sit on nothing matters, Pal...and that makes a qualified ring tapper and burn barrel buddy. Check out your own decoder ring.

As if street knowledge and excuses let's one's post off the hook.

uhmm... I dont speak whatever language you were dishing out. I seriously have NO CLUE what your point is.

 

[Reid1boys]

First off, who isn't aware of that role?

As to length of career and injury facts...a much fairer breakdown is very relevant. The owners are looking at billions instead of a max of $30 Million...any disparity apparent to you?

nope..... you think an owner of a business and an employee are supposed to somehow be close in what they make??? uhm, thats just not the way the world turns.

 

[Corso]

uhmm... I dont speak whatever language you were dishing out. I seriously have NO CLUE what your point is.

He does blaze his own linguistic trail.

 

[Reid1boys]

Agreed, UNLESS, they increase both the max roster from 53 to something significantly higher and the number of players allowed to dress for games also, to POTENTIALLY alleviate wear - that could lower the wear and tear, AND not only increase the number of players being paid, but also increase the length of careers of some players. Also, if you add 10% - 15% more games, then you need to up Cap by that or more too - increase medical benefits long-term, etc... REDUCE pre-season games - veterans don't need 4-5 of those. There are some positions that are gonna play almost every snap in 1-2 extra games though - which would be hard to avoid, but a larger overall and gameday roster could provide OPTION to split more snaps and have specialist roles to alleviate wear on some players (maybe you don't have your WR returning punts, and starters on special teams, and can carry an extra RB on game day (one big bruiser or one real quick scat type each to get a couple more snaps to rest your featured guy, etc)....

If they went 17 games, then every team could have neutral site game in a city with no current NFL team to promote the game and test future expansion teams. More playoff games means more money for all - TV and reward to home team in terms of gate receipts and parking/concession, etc... - that HAS to trickle down to players though.

Just my thoughts. If they can lower the physical punishment a bit more, without changing the nature of the game too much - it could be win/win - but most of these players are pretty much physically crippled by end of career as is, and some positions wear out so fast now as it is.

sorry, but I dont buy that crippled for most players. For some? Yes.... but I dont see Aikman is crippled, Emmitt, Stee Young..... look at all those analysts that player for 10-15 years.. they are all living life. Do they have aches and pains? Probably, but that is just the way it goes if you play football.All of these guys know the risks today, and if they chose to play... thats on them. They no the risks and the rewards, and they chose the rewards. Dont expect me to sit back and cringe when I see a player get lit up in a game. I dont ever want to see someone get hurt, but I dont lose any sleep over the guy that broke his ankle in a game. Im so sick and tired of hearing about player safety. NASCAR drivers die, its part of it, and the ones that cant handle that risk opt out. MMA fighters get their bell rung and they know it, and they do it. Life has risks. Some acceot the risks, others do not. Dont come back 10 years later about your poor health after you played 15 years in the NFL. Sorry, Im just a consumer of NFL football. I dont want these guys to be hurt, suffer long term injuries.. but I dont lose anymore sleep over their issues than they do over mine. Add 2 more games and I will be on ehappy SOB. I dont give a **** about how much mor emoney they do or do not make or if the owners are taking advantage. NFL... the more the better!

Hey, at least Im honest...lol

 

[IceBowler]

If they do .. there needs to be a increase in roster size.

 

[Little Jr]

If you don't care if someone else can stand his grounds and be right also...that's on you.

Prove that they won't...the Player's Association. Oh, and Eugene Upshaw, from here and Texas A&I, was their President for 19 years.

Prove it? Look at history. As far as Upshaw, what did he do? Lead a unsuccessful strike in 87? They didn't get fa until they disbanded the union and players filed lawsuits on their own vs the league. His 87 strike he lead was embarrassing.

The last time, lead by Smith, nothing changed. It won't change this time.

“You’ve got to you got to remember the time were win, being locked out. Guys’ contracts were up. Unrestricted free agents were panicked. This is their time to hit. They’re calling you. As you’re negotiating, you’re just not negotiating with the owners. You negotiate with those guys and their agents who are calling saying, ‘When is this deal gong to be done? We’ve got to get this done. I’ve got to get back playing. How much time am I going to be out?’

Jeff Saturday quote from last cba negotiations. This was after the nflpa warned them that this could happen. And start watching their money a few years before the lockout.

 

[Corso]

Prove it? Look at history. As far as Upshaw, what did he do? Lead a unsuccessful strike in 87? They didn't get fa until they disbanded the union and players filed lawsuits on their own vs the league. His 87 strike he lead was embarrassing.

The last time, lead by Smith, nothing changed. It won't change this time.

“You’ve got to you got to remember the time were win, being locked out. Guys’ contracts were up. Unrestricted free agents were panicked. This is their time to hit. They’re calling you. As you’re negotiating, you’re just not negotiating with the owners. You negotiate with those guys and their agents who are calling saying, ‘When is this deal gong to be done? We’ve got to get this done. I’ve got to get back playing. How much time am I going to be out?’

Jeff Saturday quote from last cba negotiations. This was after the nflpa warned them that this could happen. And start watching their money a few years before the lockout.

Shoot, it's a bunch of guys that - some can handle money, but there are many that can't against guys that have so much money this is just a blip on the radar.

 

[kskboys]

uhmm... I dont speak whatever language you were dishing out. I seriously have NO CLUE what your point is.

I think he said it's OK for people he relates to to be greedy, but it's not OK if he doesn't like it.

 

[JoeKing]

That doesn't work for the TV nets because Feb is a sweeps month, along with May, July and Nov. It would be better for them to start the preseason games (2) two weeks before regular season kicks off, the 2nd week in Sept, and then end the regular season in Jan and have the playoffs and SB end toward the end of Feb. Add it on the end when more audience is inside because it's pretty much winter everywhere.

Besides the revenue the TV nets generate, the real benefit of broadcasting the live games are the show promos and recycling the audience. They would be more prone to pony up more if they are doing that during a sweeps period.

What I proposed is one freaking week longer in Feb than it already is. It's not going to hurt "sweeps week" one bit. Your idea stretches the season far too long and you ignore your own issue you brought up about sweeps week. If it makes my idea no good, it makes your idea twice as bad.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I don't think 2 extra games is all that big of a deal. Injuries happen. So they happen in game 3 of a preseason game or in game 14 of the regular season.
I kind of like the extra 2 games meaning something.

Maybe some team is so far out in front, they rest their players the last 2 games. Or some team gets hot, and needs one more win to make the playoffs, and will have 2 games to do it, otherwise they miss out. This will get fans more excited.

With all the new rules about player safety. Maybe that what is hurting players more than just allowing them to be play. As they try so hard not get a penalty they get hurt instead.

Just a different viewpoint. And the team is not making anymore money from 18 games and 2 PS, or 16 games and 4 PS. The ticket prices are the same. And are prepaid mostly by season ticket holders. They miss out from some concession sales. It is for the advertisement money mostly.

And if they start the season a week earlier, and it runs a week later. And if they add another bye week as well. That is 3 weeks less of an already too long off-season.

I can see them adding a second bye. I have to think the owners are doing this to potentially angle for another expansion team or two. Given the team moving going on and the international games they've been playing, I think 18 games and 2 byes makes expanding teams more doable.

 

[jay94]

Every thing is all about money anyways I am fine with an 18 game season these guys saying they want 10 game seasons must just be fans of high school football. That being said the players need a considerable advantage from what they have now, I am talking a way bigger pay grade, after all this is the most popular game in at least at the moment the most powerful country in the world (this will change in the next 5 to 10 years).

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Okay, cut PS to two games.

Have an 18 game regular season.

Allow all 53 players to be active every week.

No individual player is allowed to participate in more than 14 regular season games.

Get rid of the bye week but have 1 off week prior to the wildcard round.

I'd expand it to at least 70 players including at least 60 active players. That way, they can last that long. I'd also reintroduce an 8 round draft with the need for extra players.

 

[Q_the_man]

18 games means almost every NFL record would be broken. I can see someone getting 2300 yards rushing, 2000 yards receiving, 60 passing TDs, 6000 yards passing, 25 sacks, etc...

 

[Jake]

Foolish for the players great for the owners. These guys are already breaking down in many ways. Add even more games to it will create more injuries, blows to the head, etc. I feel like the NFL will oversaturate. They have with me already but I know I'm in the minority.

The CFL plays an 18 game schedule and has for years. Players survive.

What they do have is a shorter preseason (3 games) and 2 bye weeks.

 

[Jake]

If they do .. there needs to be a increase in roster size.

Just make the practice squad active on game day. Seems silly to have a 53 man roster and only 46 active on game day.