Report (Speculation): Wade needs to reach Super Bowl; Jerry likes Les Miles

[JBond]

How many "big games" has Stoops lost while having some of the best talent in the country???


And some of you guys want him to replace Wade????




HAAAAABAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Can you name 5 college coaches that have won more games and had more Championship appearances over the same time period. Just curious about all the other coaches that have performed better. I am not up to date on my college coaches.

 

[Doomsday101]

Can you name 5 college coaches that have won more games and had more Championship appearances over the same time period. Just curious about all the other coaches that have performed better. I am not up to date on my college coaches.

I think sometimes you need to look at the bigger picture. Stoops is the HC of a team that bringing in top talent is no problem much like Texas OU can get the cream of the crop of top High School prospects. When I see a HC like Gary Patterson at TCU being able to produce year in and year out knowing getting top recruites is much harder for them than it is for the likes of Texas, OU and other top programs that say a lot more to me than what Stoops has done

 

[cml750]

Really? Coming into the season most so called experts doubted that talent. TO was gone and what ever would Dallas do to without the ability to make the big plays? Romo does not have IT because he can't play in Dec. We were picked to finish 3rd in the NFC East and even some members around here predicted 5-11 to 8-8.

I think TO being gone helps us because there are less distractions. Miles Austin has filled in wonderfully. I feel Romo does have IT. The predictions for this year were based on the piss poor showing we made at the end of last year. I blame the head coach for not having us ready to play late last season!! I would have fired him after last season.

 

[JBond]

I think sometimes you need to look at the bigger picture. Stoops is the HC of a team that bringing in top talent is no problem much like Texas OU can get the cream of the crop of top High School prospects. When I see a HC like Gary Patterson at TCU being able to produce year in and year out knowing getting top recruites is much harder for them than it is for the likes of Texas, OU and other top programs that say a lot more to me than what Stoops has done

I think it has more to do with the fact he is the OU coach and no one in Texas will ever like him because of that fact alone. Not saying that is the only reason everyone has but I believe it is a contributing factor. I watch a fair share of Big 12 football and his teams have been very good to excellent almost every year. Not saying I think he should coach the Cowboys, but the beat down he is taking in this thread is a little overboard.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think TO being gone helps us because there are less distractions. Miles Austin has filled in wonderfully. I feel Romo does have IT. The predictions for this year were based on the piss poor showing we made at the end of last year. I blame the head coach for not having us ready to play late last season!! I would have fired him after last season.

Well that is not what was being said before the season started. Not many were claiming all this great talent. Without TO Romo could not do the job he could not win in Dec and alot of other BS being thrown out. I give the coaches alot of credit for getting this team to where they are right now and if they can get them over the hump then they deserve the jobs they currently have.

 

[utrunner07]

I think sometimes you need to look at the bigger picture. Stoops is the HC of a team that bringing in top talent is no problem much like Texas OU can get the cream of the crop of top High School prospects. When I see a HC like Gary Patterson at TCU being able to produce year in and year out knowing getting top recruites is much harder for them than it is for the likes of Texas, OU and other top programs that say a lot more to me than what Stoops has done

This is kind of my thinking as well. I do think you have to make some exception because in fact Jimmy was at a very talent rich program; however, though I saw very little/none of Jimmy's college career, it is my understanding that he and his college teams were much more dominant than Stoops or Miles could ever hope to be.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think it has more to do with the fact he is the OU coach and no one in Texas will ever like him because of that fact alone. Not saying that is the only reason everyone has but I believe it is a contributing factor. I watch a fair share of Big 12 football and his teams have been very good to excellent almost every year. Not saying I think he should coach the Cowboys, but the beat down he is taking in this thread is a little overboard.

I don't dislike Stoops but I do know Texas, OU,Florida,Alabama,USC and the likes do not have problems bringing in the top prospect. And those top recruits were going to OU before Stoops ever set foot in Norman because kids know these are big time schools and will get more of the national limelight than they would go to one of the smaller schools.

If Stoops left tomorrow OU would not have a problem getting top high school recruits going to their school only time they have had issues is when the NCAA has hit them with penalties that cost them scholarships.

If this was about a bias against OU I would not bother throwing my favorite school into the mix which is Texas who also has no problem getting top players to go to Texas and that is not because of Mac Brown it is because kids know the exposure they will get by going to Texas

 

[hammer1]

All this speculation is just that! If Wade gets the axe...Garrett will be the next HC of the Dallas Cowboys.

Hammer

 

[cml750]

All this speculation is just that! If Wade gets the axe...Garrett will be the next HC of the Dallas Cowboys.

Hammer

I will give him a chance!!!

 

[BrassCowboy]

Does Les Miles know the 3-4??? Because he isnt going to be here to run the O.

Because Garrett isnt going anywhere. We rank in the top 5 in amost every offensive statistical category and when Jerry was interviewed by Babe he all but endorsed Garrett as being a HC in the future. So if Jerry is convinced Garrett is HC material and just needs a little more seasoning, you dam well know it is not going to be for another team.

Even if Wade is fired, Jason Garrett will run the offense and will remain "HC in waiting". You think Les Miles or Bob Stoops is going to be ok with that???

Les Miles is not going to mind keeping the seat warm for a couple of seasons until Garrett is ready to take over????

Are you saying we should get a coach that will coach for a few years until JG is ready to be HC? I hope not, I am not sold on JG and I really do not buy into his offense no matter what the stats say. As a Cowboy fan, I hope it is his inexperience that is holding him back as he does show flashes of genious, but not as head coach here.

Do I want another head coach here that will already have a handpicked staff in place by Jerry? no, if you hire a guy to be your headcoach, does it not say something about that coach if you do not trust him to build his own staff that he trusts?

I think the only way JG should stay is if the new HC hand picks him to.

That being said, I do like Bill Cowher and think he would make an excellent HC here, but he won't because he will not be a puppet to Jerry. He is a real coach and cannot have two of them on this team.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Disclaimer first, I do not want Stoops or Miles here! Now with that out of the way, how many games has Wade lost with some of the best talent in the NFL? Unless we WIN the Superbowl , Wade needs to go. His team has under performed, had no motivation, and has gotten the least out one of the most talented rosters in the NFL the last two years.

I guess that is why every preseason magazine and NFL analyst (including our own Emmitt Smith) picked us to not even make the playoffs.

Because we are so freaking loaded with talent it puts the other teams to shame.

Seriously, teams like the New York Giants, New Orleans Saints and Philladelphia Eagles should just be honored to step on the same field with us. Our talent alone is worth 2 or 3 TDs even before kickoff!!!!

 

[Beast_from_East]

Can you name 5 college coaches that have won more games and had more Championship appearances over the same time period. Just curious about all the other coaches that have performed better. I am not up to date on my college coaches.

We are talking about Stoops, so since you are not up to date let me refresh your memory of his record since 2003.

2003..........Lost Sugar Bowl

2004..........Lost Orange Bowl

2005..........Won Holiday Bowl (beat the mighty Oregon Ducks by 3pts)

2006..........Lost Fiesta Bowl

2007..........Lost Fiesta Bowl

2008..........Lost National Chapionship Game


So he has lost 5 of his last 6 Bowl games and his only win was a 17-14 win over the mighty Oregon Ducks. And yet you guys want to replace Wade with this????

Wow

 

[Beast_from_East]

Are you saying we should get a coach that will coach for a few years until JG is ready to be HC? I hope not, I am not sold on JG and I really do not buy into his offense no matter what the stats say. As a Cowboy fan, I hope it is his inexperience that is holding him back as he does show flashes of genious, but not as head coach here.

Do I want another head coach here that will already have a handpicked staff in place by Jerry? no, if you hire a guy to be your headcoach, does it not say something about that coach if you do not trust him to build his own staff that he trusts?

I think the only way JG should stay is if the new HC hand picks him to.

That being said, I do like Bill Cowher and think he would make an excellent HC here, but he won't because he will not be a puppet to Jerry. He is a real coach and cannot have two of them on this team.

Dude, that has been Jerry's plan all along. Where have you been???

Garrett was hired as offensive coordinator before Wade ever stepped foot in Big D. Garrett has total control over the offense, gameplanning, playcalling, ect. I have never seen Garrett or Wade talk to each other during a game, it is like we have co-head coaches.

Look back on draft day, the war room cam showed Jerry and Garrett sitting side by side going over charts or notes or something and Wade just sitting to the side looking around the room. Since when does the owner/gm of a team go over draft info with a coordinator while the head coach sits to the side counting how many tiles are on the roof???

Look at this season. Wade is in the last year of his contract and Jerry has given "conditions" under which Wade could return (win the division, win a playoff game, ect....). However, Garrett's contract is not up until 2011, he is the highest paid assistant in the league making exactly what Wade makes, and not only has Jerry not given "conditions" under which Garrett would return, he has gone out of his way to defend Garrett from any and all criticism and told Babe he defiently was going to be a future head coach in the league.

So if you think Stoops or Miles or anybody else is going to come in here and mess with Jerry's golden boy (who is in the "family portrait" as Jerry says), you are mistaken. Garrett would laugh in Stoops or Miles face if they tried to tell him jack.

That is why I say that if Wade is fired Garrett will either be named the Head Coach or if another coach is brought in, he will have jack to say about Garrett and the idea that a new Head Coach would decide if Garrett would be his offensive coordinator or not is laughable.

 

[cml750]

I guess that is why every preseason magazine and NFL analyst (including our own Emmitt Smith) picked us to not even make the playoffs.

Because we are so freaking loaded with talent it puts the other teams to shame.

Seriously, teams like the New York Giants, New Orleans Saints and Philladelphia Eagles should just be honored to step on the same field with us. Our talent alone is worth 2 or 3 TDs even before kickoff!!!!

Yea you are right. We have the crappiest roster in the NFL. We are so lucky to have Wade to coach up this inferior talent that should have an (0 - 14) record to the brink of the playoffs. Thank the Lord for Wade and his superior coaching job with our crappy roster.

The preseason predictions were set by our crappy performance last year. What were the 2008 predictions? Everyone had us in the top 5 and mostly in the top 3. Wades poor coaching made us bad last year which lowered the bar for this year. Anyone should be able to see this.