Review of Travis Frederick tape

[theogt]

His one big negative is his stamina. He seems to consistently wear down late in games.

 

[DasTex]

Ok, you guys are doing a good job pulling me back from over the ledge, because I jumped yesterday after the TE pick.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

I don't think that is correct about his weight. He was listed at 338 his senior year. The draft analysts talked about it prior to the combine. He lost a drastic amount of weight before the combine where he weighed 312.

This is what I read as well. Also that Wisconsin changed up the blocking schemes so that he could pull more rather than their guards... He also doesn't have a problem blocking on the second level, I think that is another byproduct of those silly rumors about him being nonathletic and a plodder.

 

[Slashar00]

I'm really happy that Frederick is on this team. It really improves our line. Smart centers are important, plus he can integrate quickly and play guard too. I don't care too much about his slowness as long as he can do a semi-decent job at getting to the next level.

I'm only disappointed with where we drafted him. Especially since the number 2 OC didn't get drafted until day 3.

 

[irishline]

a slight caveat there is that sometimes school smarts does not equal football smarts though indications are he has them.

Gurode was an honors student at Colorado and in a serious field as well- not basket weaving

Not knocking the man but never realized ethnic studies (what Andre's degree was in) is considered as "serious" a field as Engineering or business.

 

[Nightman]

I'm really happy that Frederick is on this team. It really improves our line. Smart centers are important, plus he can integrate quickly and play guard too. I don't care too much about his slowness as long as he can do a semi-decent job at getting to the next level.

I'm only disappointed with where we drafted him. Especially since the number 2 OC didn't get drafted until day 3.

The other guys weren't on his level. That is why it was the right move to reach a little and get him. The panic in the war room came after Pugh and Long were taken after the trade and they didn't think Frederick would be there at 31. No way they get him at 47.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

His natural playing weight is 330/335 pounds. Thats what he played guard at year before last. He lost 15-20 pounds in the offseason before moving to center for the Badgers. The Badgers pull the center ALOT and he/they thought it would give him a little more mobility to pull. My bet is the Cowboys get him back up to 330 before the season starts. At that weight....he is FRIGGIN DOMINANT! He was very good last year as center too,...but after watching him these last few years I believe he is better at the higher weight and it is more natural to him.

i hope not, 320 is enough imo

 

[Alexander]

Can you be like jobberone and watch when he plays bad and tell everyone he is good? Thanks.

 

[Broges74]

What I think is the issue here is that we got a guy whom even experts question and some had rated as low as a 3rd. Not the pick we needed in that spot. Jerry doesn't have a good track record here.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Frederick got a 34 on the Wonderlic... by all accounts he plays mentally error-free football, and if he ends up at C that alone is a HUGE plus.

Tough, intelligent, nasty, and a force in the ground game. I like the pick and when you pair him with the Williams pick at #74-- I think that trade with SF is at worst a push.

Hes got a computer engineering degree from Wisconsin. Wisconsin is one of the best engineering schools in the country. The guy understands concepts like harmonic analysis and multivariable calculus. The only more difficult degree out there is theoretical physics which uses the same harmonic analysis just on crack with weird orthogonality.

Dude isn't just one of the smartest guys on the team. He will be one of the smartest guys in the NFL.

Now I get that intelligence is not the same as reflex and the quick decisions. Those are necessary on the field but having seen NFL playbooks and having studied the two harmonic transforms, I think he will grasp the offense and grasp it quickly.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

I don't think that is correct about his weight. He was listed at 338 his senior year. The draft analysts talked about it prior to the combine. He lost a drastic amount of weight before the combine where he weighed 312.

Oh he may very well have,...dont doubt it at all. I do know he lost some weight for the move to center though. I just assumed it was all the way down to what he is now. Could very well be he only lost 5-10 pounds for the move to center and then lost the rest for the combine. Either way,....we got us a keeper!

 

[Broges74]

Hes got a computer engineering degree from Wisconsin. Wisconsin is one of the best engineering schools in the country. The guy understands concepts like harmonic analysis and multivariable calculus. The only more difficult degree out there is theoretical physics which uses the same harmonic analysis just on crack with weird orthogonality.

Dude isn't just one of the smartest guys on the team. He will be one of the smartest guys in the NFL.

Now I get that intelligence is not the same as reflex and the quick decisions. Those are necessary on the field but having seen NFL playbooks and having studied the two harmonic transforms, I think he will grasp the offense and grasp it quickly.

Ok. Good pickup.. Could have got him in the second according to many. That's all I'm saying.

BTW: I have a degree in Computer Engineering as well and could probably put up a 28+ on that test. Not going to help me block a NFL NT or DT....

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ok. Good pickup.. Could have got him in the second according to many. That's all I'm saying.

BTW: I have a degree in Computer Engineering as well and could probably put up a 28+ on that test. Not going to help me block a NFL NT or DT....

He benches 500 lbs and squats 700 lbs. He also has tons of film drive and turning guys like Jordan Hill and Kawann Short.

I agree that he was rated as a lower round. I do not agree that he would have been there with certainty at 47. Pugh and Long were rated around him depending who you talked to and they had already gone. If he was a target and you wanted him because of your scouting you would be foolish to wait 15 picks after already waiting 13 due to the trade.

One thing that is clear is that the cottage industry has not caught up to how teams value OL nowadays. OL runs are becoming common in the first round.

 

[dez_for_prez]

Have the Cowboys said where they plan on playing him? I pray it is at centre.

 

[Broges74]

He benches 500 lbs and squats 700 lbs. He also has tons of film drive and turning guys like Jordan Hill and Kawann Short.

I agree that he was rated as a lower round. I do not agree that he would have been there with certainty at 47. Pugh and Long were rated around him depending who you talked to and they had already gone. If he was a target and you wanted him because of your scouting you would be foolish to wait 15 picks after already waiting 13 due to the trade.

One thing that is clear is that the cottage industry has not caught up to how teams value OL nowadays. OL runs are becoming common in the first round.

The point is this is one of JG guys due to his score. We reached to get him because we lost our main guy @ 18 IMO.. We will see. Nobody wants Jerry to succeed more than me. A win for Jerry is a win for Cowboys Nation.

 

[burmafrd]

The O line run in the first round of this draft was nuts. Had almost as many there as in the rest of the whole draft.

Pugh and Long were CERTAINLY reaches. Big ones. Ours was a fair amount smaller.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

The O line run in the first round of this draft was nuts. Had almost as many there as in the rest of the whole draft.

Pugh and Long were CERTAINLY reaches. Big ones. Ours was a fair amount smaller.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[Blue Eyed Devil]

As a very proud Ohio State alumnus I can say I hate Frederick because he would kill my Buckeyes! If he plays anything like he did in college he's exactly what our o-line needs.

 

[Rogerthat12]

From the presser, he seemed to indicate Center (learning calls from Romo) and the guy is a beast.

 

[5Stars]

Can you be like jobberone and watch when he plays bad and tell everyone he is good? Thanks.

Hit and run...nice!