Reviewing the WR reaching the sidelines

[MarcusRock]

Did I say that it wasn't reviewable? I am simply giving you an example of us being singled out for something that I've NEVER seen implemented before....until today...against us.

It has been. You just haven't watched enough football to know. You're too busy whining about "If that was the Cowboys ..." like a toddler sibling complaining to parents that the other child is the favorite. Man up.

 

[Crazed Liotta Eyes]

I mean I get it but one, by rules they can do that and two, they made the right call.

As someone noted, you tackle the guy in bounds, it doesn't matter.

Yeah, it was definitely the right call. No way to blame the refs for this game.

 

[links18]

He was perpendicular to the line

Clock should have run then, no?

 

[Playmaker3128]

crazy thing is if they don't have that last timeout it may not even be reviewed. But we decided on 3rd and 4 to throw long when we had the ball.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Clock should have run then, no?

Yuuup that is correct. And also the ref called his momentum had stopped on the field.

 

[adwar]

you couldn’t throw a challenge flag for this under 5 minutes and before 2 min. It’s crazy this happened. And the call from the official was “review of a completed pass”

 

[TNT]

There is something fundamentally wrong when u can review half the rules on a single play, while they are not allowed to consider the other half of the rule? They stated in the commentary that they were not allowed to decide if the player progress is going forward or not. Isn’t that fundamental to that type of play?

 

[MarcusRock]

There is something fundamentally wrong when u can review half the rules on a single play, while they are not allowed to consider the other half of the rule? They stated in the commentary that they were not allowed to decide if the player progress is going forward or not. Isn’t that fundamental to that type of play?

Unless the ref ruled that he came down inbounds and not out of bounds, in which case the clock runs the same. But people need to cling to forward progress to keep this whine alive in the face of the rules. Same as "Dez performed a football move" in Green Bay. Cling, my pretties, cling! Lol.

 

[TNT]

Unless the ref ruled that he came down inbounds and not out of bounds, in which case the clock runs the same. But people need to cling to forward progress to keep this whine alive in the face of the rules. Same as "Dez performed a football move" in Green Bay. Cling, my pretties, cling! Lol.

I don’t understand your approach of demeaning your fellow cowboy fans, I guess ur existence is this miserable? I was under the impression if his progress was going backward, the clock still runs?

 

[Creeper]

It was the right call. But every Cowboys player on the field should have been sprinting to get to Kearse to help him out. Making that stop in bounds practically ends the game. The play before was almost the same thing. In those situations the DB has to get up there and make the tackle in bounds.

 

[MarcusRock]

I don’t understand your approach of demeaning your fellow cowboy fans, I guess ur existence is this miserable? I was under the impression if his progress was going backward, the clock still runs?

Lol. It's just funny to watch y'all freak out over a game. So I have fun with it.

The clock also still runs if he was ruled as being tackled in bounds. If so, the review corrected this. So does anyone know if forward progress or tackled in bounds was ruled? I know what the incentive to think is.

 

[MarcusRock]

Was the receiver moving forward when he went out or perpendicular to the sideline?

He was perpendicular to the line

Perpendicular does not equal forward progress stopped.

RULE 15 INSTANT REPLAY
SECTION 3 REVIEWABLE RULINGS
ARTICLE 7. PLAYS GOVERNED BY THE LINE TO GAIN. The dead-ball spot is reviewable to determine whether it was short
of, at, or beyond the line to gain.
Notes:
(1) For purposes of a replay review, forward progress is determined when a player with control of the ball is contacted by an
opponent and driven backwards.
(2) A challenge is successful only if the ruling of whether a new series was awarded is changed, regardless of whether the
ball was moved closer to the line to gain.
(3) Following review, the ball will be placed at the correct dead-ball spot, but the challenge will be successful only if the line
to gain ruling is changed.
​

 

[Kumala808]

pick up 10 yards after the fumble game is over period

 

[TNT]

Lol. It's just funny to watch y'all freak out over a game. So I have fun with it.

The clock also still runs if he was ruled as being tackled in bounds. If so, the review corrected this. So does anyone know if forward progress or tackled in bounds was ruled? I know what the incentive to think is.

So you didn’t answer the question that I have asked twice already, why is this reviewable if they cannot include all of the rules? If he was indeed going backward in this play, it could not be considered.

 

[links18]

Perpendicular does not equal forward progress stopped.

RULE 15 INSTANT REPLAY
SECTION 3 REVIEWABLE RULINGS
ARTICLE 7. PLAYS GOVERNED BY THE LINE TO GAIN. The dead-ball spot is reviewable to determine whether it was short
of, at, or beyond the line to gain.
Notes:
(1) For purposes of a replay review, forward progress is determined when a player with control of the ball is contacted by an
opponent and driven backwards.
(2) A challenge is successful only if the ruling of whether a new series was awarded is changed, regardless of whether the
ball was moved closer to the line to gain.
(3) Following review, the ball will be placed at the correct dead-ball spot, but the challenge will be successful only if the line
to gain ruling is changed.
​

It doesn't have to. You have to be going forward when you go out of bounds for th clock to stop. The entire sequence was blown.

 

[MarcusRock]

So you didn’t answer the question that I have asked twice already, why is this reviewable if they cannot include all of the rules? If he was indeed going backward in this play, it could not be considered.

I would like to hear what the commentators said because I just posted rules that state forward progress IS reviewable. The things that are NOT reviewable have their own section.

RULE 15 INSTANT REPLAY
SECTION 4 NON-REVIEWABLE PLAYS
The following aspects of plays are not reviewable:
(a) Whether an erroneous whistle sounded;
(b) Whether a ball was illegally batted or kicked;
(c) Whether a passer intentionally grounded a pass;
(d) Whether an ineligible receiver was downfield before a pass;
(e) Whether a receiver was illegally contacted;
(f) The spot of a loose ball crossing the sideline;
(g) Whether a block was illegal; and
(h) Any aspect of a play not listed as reviewable in Section 3 of this Rule.​

As per (h), if it's not listed in Section 3, you can't review it. I just posted about forward progress from the rules in Section 3. It's reviewable. If the announcers said it, it wouldn't be the first time they've been wrong about a rule.

 

[zeke21]

I personally hadn't seen it.. and didn't think it was a reviewable decision.. but I'm actually happy they did. The point of reviews is to get things right.. and they did. He clearly got out of bounds. If it wasn't already in the rules it should be now.. the point should always be to get to the correct decision.

I thought the refs were great this game.. very limited flags.. game had a nice flow to it.. very few delays. I'd be happy if they called every game like it.

Refs did not cost us this game.. we did that all to ourselves.

 

[MarcusRock]

It doesn't have to. You have to be going forward when you go out of bounds for th clock to stop. The entire sequence was blown.

LOL. You're wrong. I literally just showed you what the rules consider forward progress stopped, and for review's sake to boot. A player CAN move perpendicular to the line to get out of bounds to have the clock stop, contact or no contact. Being moved backwards by a defender when going out does not do it. It's happened a ton of times in games that it should be known. Obviously it's not.

 

[mldardy]

crazy thing is if they don't have that last timeout it may not even be reviewed. But we decided on 3rd and 4 to throw long when we had the ball.

3rd and 10 but your point remains. We should have run the ball and made them burn that last timeout.

 

[links18]

LOL. I literally just showed you what the rules consider forward progress stopped, and for review's sake to boot. A player CAN move perpendicular to the line to get out of bounds to have the clock stop, contact or no contact. Being moved backwards by a defender when going out does not do it. It's happened a ton of times in games that it should be known. Obviously it's not.

It has nothing to do with forward progress. You aren't posting rules germane to the discussion. If you are moving perpendicular to the sideline when you go out of bounds, the clock runs. That's what the commentators said during the telecast and Pereira confirmed that that particular aspect couldn't then be reviewed. So, was he moving forward or perpendicular to the sideline when he went out? That's the only relevant question.