Reviewing the WR reaching the sidelines

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It has nothing to do with forward progress. You aren't posting rules germane to the discussion. If you are moving perpendicular to the sideline when you go out of bounds, the clock runs. That's what the commentators said during the telecast and Pereira confirmed that that particular aspect couldn't then be reviewed. So, was he moving forward or perpendicular to the sideline when he went out? That's the only relevant question.

Lol. It has everything to do with forward progress. Why would the clock continue running if a player runs out of bounds? Say Kearse never touched him and he ran forward and then arced perpendicular when he ran out of bounds on his own. Would the clock keep running in that case? If not, what difference is it if Kearse did contact him and he went out of bounds perpendicularly?
 

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Dude your character is just getting old. It’s the same thing every week. Its strange that the booth could challenge this, a coach could not.. the official challenge call was for a complete pass…
 

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If the play was at 2:15 . Jax couldn’t challenge the call of forward progress/ out of bounds
 

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Lol. It has everything to do with forward progress. Why would the clock continue running if a player runs out of bounds? Say Kearse never touched him and he ran forward and then arced perpendicular when he ran out of bounds on his own. Would the clock keep running in that case? If not, what difference is it if Kearse did contact him and he went out of bounds perpendicularly?


Huh? You are correct, it makes no difference if Kearse contacted him. It only matters the direction of his motion relative to the sideline. Do you need a diagram drawn?

If that is not the rule then I am stupider for having listened to Fox's experts today.
 

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Huh? You are correct, it makes no difference if Kearse contacted him. It only matters the direction of his motion relative to the sideline. Do you need a diagram drawn?

If that is not the rule then I am stupider for having listened to Fox's experts today.

Lol. You are literally trying to invent a rule so as to not backtrack. How about this? Why don't you cite the rule that says if a player is running perpendicular to the sideline when he runs out of bounds, the clock should keep running. Players do this almost weekly and every time the official stops the clock. So show me where you've seen different.

The only reason you or anyone else brought up moving perpendicular to the sideline was for forward progress reasons. I show you what forward progress is according to the rules for review purposes and now it's not about forward progress but this "rule" you speak of. I can't find it in the rulebook. Help me out here and show me. If you're right, you're right and I'll say it. You see how ya boy left you to fend for this one on your own though, don't you? Lol.
 

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I am NOT excusing in ANY WAY our poor play and poor coaching decisions...we sucked!!! But at least one of you this week wanted proof that Dallas is being picked on or singled out by the refs....well, when have you EVER seen the refs call for a review on if a player made it out of bounds or not....

A weird one.
Seemed obvious he got out of bounds. Wasn't tackled in bounds. I can see arguing that forward progress was stopped in bounds. Looked that way to me. But supposedly they hadn't called that on the field, so couldn't review it.
But that wasn't screwing us. It was an *inexplicable* call on the field that was rightly overturned.
 

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I am NOT excusing in ANY WAY our poor play and poor coaching decisions...we sucked!!! But at least one of you this week wanted proof that Dallas is being picked on or singled out by the refs....well, when have you EVER seen the refs call for a review on if a player made it out of bounds or not....YOU HAVEN'T is the answer....along with 3-4 other calls they've pulled out of their butt the last decade that you also have NEVER seen called against any other team....before or after it was called against us. Again, we sucked today and deserved to lose....but you asked for an example, and I am giving you one.

I am against bad calls... Dez caught that ball! However, refs need to get the call right, even when it takes a review inside of 2 minutes to do it. So, they got the call right, that receiver made it out of bounds legitmately. That's not a problem for me. If the Cowboys lose when the game is called fairly, then it forces the team to re-invent themselves and win when it counts. I hope that happens this season.
 

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Lol. You are literally trying to invent a rule so as to not backtrack. How about this? Why don't you cite the rule that says if a player is running perpendicular to the sideline when he runs out of bounds, the clock should keep running. Players do this almost weekly and every time the official stops the clock. So show me where you've seen different.

The only reason you or anyone else brought up moving perpendicular to the sideline was for forward progress reasons. I show you what forward progress is according to the rules for review purposes and now it's not about forward progress but this "rule" you speak of. I can't find it in the rulebook. Help me out here and show me. If you're right, you're right and I'll say it. You see how ya boy left you to fend for this one on your own though, don't you? Lol.
This isn’t something you can review… you can’t throw the red flag for this
 

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I am NOT excusing in ANY WAY our poor play and poor coaching decisions...we sucked!!! But at least one of you this week wanted proof that Dallas is being picked on or singled out by the refs....well, when have you EVER seen the refs call for a review on if a player made it out of bounds or not....YOU HAVEN'T is the answer....along with 3-4 other calls they've pulled out of their butt the last decade that you also have NEVER seen called against any other team....before or after it was called against us. Again, we sucked today and deserved to lose....but you asked for an example, and I am giving you one.
That play was obviously out of bounds.

Stop.
 

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Show me how and any other time and I will apologize.. its honestly so rare it could happen
 

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I'm sure that we all can find something to critique, but the main point is, this team is not disciplined enough to win like a top tier team. Coaches and players alike act like every game is their first.
 

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That play was obviously out of bounds.

Stop.
Stop yourself with the nonsense....then it should be getting reviewed in several games every week....but I've NEVER seen it reviewed before today.
 

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Stop yourself with the nonsense....then it should be getting reviewed in several games every week....but I've NEVER seen it reviewed before today.
Ok, well, I have. Many times.
 

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I am NOT excusing in ANY WAY our poor play and poor coaching decisions...we sucked!!! But at least one of you this week wanted proof that Dallas is being picked on or singled out by the refs....well, when have you EVER seen the refs call for a review on if a player made it out of bounds or not....YOU HAVEN'T is the answer....along with 3-4 other calls they've pulled out of their butt the last decade that you also have NEVER seen called against any other team....before or after it was called against us. Again, we sucked today and deserved to lose....but you asked for an example, and I am giving you one.

They are reviewing the exact same thing in the Giants-Commanders game right now. :rolleyes:
 

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Pipe down and accept the loss like men.

RULE 15 INSTANT REPLAY
SECTION 3 REVIEWABLE RULINGS

ARTICLE 1. PLAY SITUATIONS. The Replay System will cover the following play situations:
(a) Plays involving possession (see Section 3, Article 2).
(b) Plays involving touching of either the ball or the ground (see Section 3, Article 3).
(c) Plays governed by the goal line (see Section 3, Article 4).
(d) Plays governed by the boundary lines (see Section 3, Article 5).
(e) Plays governed by the line of scrimmage (see Section 3, Article 6).
(f) Plays governed by the line to gain (see Section 3, Article 7).
(g) Number of players on the field (see Section 3, Article 8).
(h)
Game administration (see Section 3, Article 9).
(1) Penalty enforcement.
(2) Proper down.
(3) Spot of a foul.
(4) Status of the game clock.
(i) Disqualification of a player (see Section 3, Article 10).
(j) Other reviewable plays (see Section 3, Article 11).


ARTICLE 9. GAME ADMINISTRATION AND CONSULTATION. The Replay Official and designated members of the Officiating
department may consult with on-field officials, or conduct a replay review, or advise the game officials on specific, objective
aspects of a play when clear and obvious video evidence is present, and/or to address game administration issues, including,
but not limited to:
(a) penalty enforcement;
(b) the proper down;
(c) spot of a foul;
(d) the game clock;
(e) possession;
(f) completed or intercepted pass;
(g) touching of a loose ball, boundary line, goal line, or end line;
(h)
location of the football or a player in relation to a boundary line, the line of scrimmage, the line to gain, or the goal line; or
(i) down by contact (when a player is not ruled down by contact on the field).
Nothing in this Article precludes a Head Coach or Replay Official from initiating a challenge or review otherwise allowed under
Rule 15, Section 1.

They just reviewed the current play in the skins- giants game after the same type of player put of bounds confirmation
 

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I am NOT excusing in ANY WAY our poor play and poor coaching decisions...we sucked!!! But at least one of you this week wanted proof that Dallas is being picked on or singled out by the refs....well, when have you EVER seen the refs call for a review on if a player made it out of bounds or not....YOU HAVEN'T is the answer....along with 3-4 other calls they've pulled out of their butt the last decade that you also have NEVER seen called against any other team....before or after it was called against us. Again, we sucked today and deserved to lose....but you asked for an example, and I am giving you one.

Textbook fallacy…appealing to ignorance (“well, I’ve never seen that before!!!”)

Congrats.

You haven’t it seen it before.
 
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