Revisiting Rashaun Slater Tackle Northwestern

[Hardline]

I am on board with Slater at 10, but the versatility argument doesn't work with me. If we're picking him at 10, he better be a LT or RT, and that's it.

Position flex is better.

 

[Beaker42]

I think he does end up being drafted ahead of us for a team like Cincy if Sewell is already off the board.

Based on talent at top of first round, I don’t see another OL besides Sewell going before us.

 

[texbumthelife]

I would take Leatherwood 2nd to Sewell at tackle but man we need defense. Even if Tyron is done we can’t afford to draft another offensive player in the first round. I get the take the best player available argument but we don’t need anymore receivers or offensive linemen in the first round. The offense is not the problem.

Oh, I totally get what you're saying. I want Surtain. I'm just purely discussing player ability and arguing Leatherwood's value.

 

[baltcowboy]

Oh, I totally get what you're saying. I want Surtain. I'm just purely discussing player ability and arguing Leatherwood's value.

I think Surtain is the safest defensive pick. I just wonder in Quinn’s 4/3 defense if drafting a cornerback high is necessary. The corners in Quinn’s defense are protected by the safeties. We could draft a traits corner in the second or 3rd round. The defense probably needs more beef up front, a pass rusher, safety and a good linebacker more.

 

[Cowboyny]

Based on talent at top of first round, I don’t see another OL besides Sewell going before us.

I've heard Cincy is desperate for OL help, they are a team historically that doesn't trade, it is quite possible they take Slater at 6.

 

[texbumthelife]

I think Surtain is the safest defensive pick. I just wonder in Quinn’s 4/3 defense if drafting a cornerback high is necessary. The corners in Quinn’s defense are protected by the safeties. We could draft a traits corner in the second or 3rd round. The defense probably needs more beef up front, a pass rusher, safety and a good linebacker more.

The corners in Quinn's defense generally work in unison with the free safety, but they're not "protected" by any stretch. His defenses generally still rely heavily on having one physical, shut down corner and another who can hold his own. This enables him to lean on a cover-3 shell and have everyone else flood the intermediate zones, including the strong safety. Diggs may become that lockdown guy, but the jury is still out. Having a corned on the field as sound technically as Surtain would be a huge gain for the secondary.

Furthermore, there isn't a defensive lineman worthy of the 10th pick and the linebackers potentially available would be a reach as well. Surtain fits the need and the value where we're picking. In fact, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he's gone when Dallas goes on the clock--which is why I've advocated for Leatherwood.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I've heard Cincy is desperate for OL help, they are a team historically that doesn't trade, it is quite possible they take Slater at 6.

+1 but I can also see them taking Chase, Smith or Pitt to replace Green, who I'm hearing they may not bring back.

 

[baltcowboy]

The corners in Quinn's defense generally work in unison with the free safety, but they're not "protected" by any stretch. His defenses generally still rely heavily on having one physical, shut down corner and another who can hold his own. This enables him to lean on a cover-3 shell and have everyone else flood the intermediate zones, including the strong safety. Diggs may become that lockdowk guy, but the jury is still out. Having a corned on the field as sound technically as Surtain is would be a huge gain for the secondary.

It would be hard to pass on a Surtain/Diggs combination. I would sleep well at night if those boys were back together. Surtain has great technique. I just have a feeling that the Cowboys want to improve other positions. We really need a war daddy at 1tech. If Gregory Rousseau weighs in at 280lbs with his 6’6 frame I could see the team drafting him.

 

[Cowboyny]

+1 but I can also see them taking Chase, Smith or Pitt to replace Green, who I'm hearing they may not bring back.

They just did draft the Clemson WR last year and still have the one from Pitt. Really think they are zeroed in on taking an offensive lineman, especially losing their franchise QB cause of it. Certainly could be wrong. The Chargers are in a very similar situation, they might trade up to secure the best available lineman.

 

[Cowboyny]

It would be hard to pass on a Surtain/Diggs combination. I would sleep well at night if those boys were back together. Surtain has great technique. I just have a feeling that the Cowboys want to improve other positions. We really need a war daddy at 1tech. If Gregory Rousseau weighs in at 280lbs with his 6’6 frame I could see the team drafting him.

In my opinion, team has to address CB, FS, DT1, anything else is gravy. Both Linebacker, Tackle also factor in, but those positions are in far better shape.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The corners in Quinn's defense generally work in unison with the free safety, but they're not "protected" by any stretch. His defenses generally still rely heavily on having one physical, shut down corner and another who can hold his own. This enables him to lean on a cover-3 shell and have everyone else flood the intermediate zones, including the strong safety. Diggs may become that lockdown guy, but the jury is still out. Having a corned on the field as sound technically as Surtain would be a huge gain for the secondary.

Furthermore, there isn't a defensive lineman worthy of the 10th pick and the linebackers potentially available would be a reach as well. Surtain fits the need and the value where we're picking. In fact, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he's gone when Dallas goes on the clock--which is why I've advocated for Leatherwood.

So you like Surtain over Farley???????

I have a hunch he's going to blow up the combines with his speed......

 

[Hawkeye0202]

In my opinion, team has to address CB, FS, DT1, anything else is gravy. Both Linebacker, Tackle also factor in, but those positions are in far better shape.

Willing to bet a red penny they'll address at least one with a free agent.....my guess is FS.

 

[Cowboyny]

Willing to bet a red penny they'll address at least one with a free agent.....my guess is FS.

My guess is the latter, think they fill the DT1 will a quality option, due to have bad the run defense was last yr. In my opinion, don't rule out Wilson playing FS. No, he is better suited to play in the box, doesn't possess the necessary range, but he has the instincts and the ball skills required for the position. He actually played more free then strong last yr. Something to watch.

 

[baltcowboy]

In my opinion, team has to address CB, FS, DT1, anything else is gravy. Both Linebacker, Tackle also factor in, but those positions are in far better shape.

Linebacker has me worried. There is lots of smoke and fire around releasing Jaylon. It seems like the Cowboys media has made a point of attacking him on the radio and streaming shows. Something is up.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not saying that at all. Gives team options, can release or trade Tyron, could play Guard yr 1 and take over for Tyron full time in another yr.

I'm not knocking you for your opinion I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from here....our defense is bad and needs talent. Our offense is no issue. We have Collins, we have Knight and Steele who got better last season......so even if you decided to move on from Tyron.....Collins would be a worse left tackle than a rookie next year?

 

[Cowboyny]

I'm not knocking you for your opinion I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from here....our defense is bad and needs talent. Our offense is no issue. We have Collins, we have Knight and Steele who got better last season......so even if you decided to move on from Tyron.....Collins would be a worse left tackle than a rookie next year?

A lot would have to do with both tackles long-term health to consider making such a pick. Fully understand the needs on defense, but poor OL play can derail a season

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Linebacker has me worried. There is lots of smoke and fire around releasing Jaylon. It seems like the Cowboys media has made a point of attacking him on the radio and streaming shows. Something is up.

Thats’s probably because everyone realizes he sucks.

Eatman relayed on one of the podcasts last week that the “internal” criticism he’s heard about Jaylon is that he’s been unprepared. Michael Gehlken from the DMN also made a similar comment on Jane Slater’s podcast regarding Jaylon specifically about the Vikings game in 2019.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

A lot would have to do with both tackles long-term health to consider making such a pick. Fully understand the needs on defense, but poor OL play can derail a season

It can.....but for me to address tight end I better be losing Collins and Tyron next season. Otherwise, I can trade down or look at tackle later on in the draft.

 

[Gaede]

Position flex is better.

Position flex is great in a prospect, but it's not going to be the main thing I look for at number 10 overall. I want to know I'm drafting the best player at the position I need, rather than someone who is really good at a few of them.

He's not going to play multiple positions at once. You pick a guy that high, you need to know the exact position he is best at and will play. Versatility as a selling point is more convincing when you're talking about a 3rd or 4th round pick and you like the player, but aren't sure exactly where he fits. When you draft someone 10th overall, you better have a plan for where that player is going to play. IN that way, versatility is not nearly as important because you already know where the dude will play and start.

 

[Cowboyny]

It can.....but for me to address tight end I better be losing Collins and Tyron next season. Otherwise, I can trade down or look at tackle later on in the draft.

If they expect both to return at full health, they probably go in another direction and address the need late day 2, early day 3. If they have any concerns, Tackle could very well be in play. The hope is that they know everything prior to the draft.