Rich Eisen-the Chargers players said our offense was predictable.

[Hook'em#11]

Even if it was the 1990s Cowboys were predictable.

Execution>> playcalling variety

Exactly.

 

[theogt]

Or perhaps there's a middle ground than staking out positions on two extreme ends?

If you attempt to eliminate blame based on saying that execution counts more than playcalling, then you're taking the other extreme. If the playcalling is predictable, then blame should be assigned, regardless of execution.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Amazing how everytime someone calls out our offense as predictable, there's a million excuses as to why that doesn't matter.

If the other team knows what you're doing, there's a problem. Doesn't matter who's to blame. There's a problem.

Its not excuses. Maybe I need to give myself more credit but when I saw the Chargers yesterday I wasn't a bit shocked by anything they did. I knew when they'd run it with Tomlinson. I knew when they'd playaction and go deep. They caught me off guard with that flea flicker but the Cowboys seemed to know exactly what they were doing being the played it great. Too great to the point where Sensabaugh got a PI because he thought he was gonna get beat.

Isn't it amazing though. When we win how many times have you heard a team say "We knew what they were going to do..."?? Even in the Commanders game where we got shut out all game. They actually had a right to say it since they shut us down but they didn't. You know why? Because they lost. Don't look into this any further than what it is. Trash talk.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Did so much? They got a bunch of yards but only 10 points, accumulating the stats in garbage time when the game was already won.

They stopped the Cowboys from scoring=point of playing defense.

Well if you take away garbage time than the Cowboys never had the ball lol. The Chargers had the ball for the whole 4th quarter if you discredit garbage time. They had it the majority of the 3rd too. And those stats are skewed. Cowboys got a INT so that shortened the field as did the Felix returns. You're giving the Chargers too much credit. If they knew so much why did this team dominate on the ground in the 1st half like they did? They didn't score but it surely wasn't because of something the Chargers did. Good goal line stands but I think there's a argument to be made that the Cowboys didn't score whether than they got shut out.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Funny how the Cowboys offense is "predictable" to Five teams that beat Dallas, yet, the other 8 teams that lost to this team are clammed up shut about it all.

And would the Ravens or Chargers be saying this if they lost? Nope.

Trash talk is all this is.

 

[craig71]

Its not excuses. Maybe I need to give myself more credit but when I saw the Chargers yesterday I wasn't a bit shocked by anything they did. I knew when they'd run it with Tomlinson. I knew when they'd playaction and go deep. They caught me off guard with that flea flicker but the Cowboys seemed to know exactly what they were doing being the played it great. Too great to the point where Sensabaugh got a PI because he thought he was gonna get beat.

Isn't it amazing though. When we win how many times have you heard a team say "We knew what they were going to do..."?? Even in the Commanders game where we got shut out all game. They actually had a right to say it since they shut us down but they didn't. You know why? Because they lost. Don't look into this any further than what it is. Trash talk.

Quite making sense,that will get you nowhere............:laugh2:


Craig

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Even if it was the 1990s Cowboys were predictable.

Execution>> playcalling variety

There is some truth to this. We don't have to be the most exotic offense ever, though you've certainly got to spice things up with some variety to keep teams honest and guessing, but execution is part of it as well and thats really falling to an O-Line that is, once again, proving to be drastically over rated, especially late in a year.

In the glory days, as so many call it, the Cowboys offense had 4 or 5 plays that you knew they were going to run, you knew they were going to run them multiple times in one form or another, and you also knew you couldn't do anything about it cause they executed the plays that well.

 

[windward]

If you attempt to eliminate blame based on saying that execution counts more than playcalling, then you're taking the other extreme. If the playcalling is predictable, then blame should be assigned, regardless of execution.

How about merely being predictabale is not an accurate measure of an offense's effectiveness?

There have been predictable offenses that have been historically effective, just as there have been complex offenses that fell flat on their faces.

As the game has evolved (particularly as passing offenses became more sophisticated) there has been a need for variety in offensive playcalling. However,the best playcalling in the world doesn't mean jack if you can't execute the play.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Quite making sense,that will get you nowhere............:laugh2:


Craig

:bang2: Goes through one ear and out the other. I guess I should just concede defeat and join the "Cowboys suck" campaign.

 

[windward]

There is some truth to this. We don't have to be the most exotic offense ever, though you've certainly got to spice things up with some variety to keep teams honest and guessing, but execution is part of it as well and thats really falling to an O-Line that is, once again, proving to be drastically over rated, especially late in a year.

In the glory days, as so many call it, the Cowboys offense had 4 or 5 plays that you knew they were going to run, you knew they were going to run them multiple times in one form or another, and you also knew you couldn't do anything about it cause they executed the plays that well.

Exactly. We miss Colombo IMO. A lot.

 

[Gaede]

Isn't it amazing though. When we win how many times have you heard a team say "We knew what they were going to do..."?? Even in the Commanders game where we got shut out all game. They actually had a right to say it since they shut us down but they didn't. You know why? Because they lost. Don't look into this any further than what it is. Trash talk.

Yeah they're more likely to talk trash when they win because they won. And being predictable probably had a lot to do with them winning.

 

[Alexander]

Even if it was the 1990s Cowboys were predictable.

Execution>> playcalling variety

If you have players that repeatedly fail to execute, isn't it the coach's responsibility to throw variety in there or should they keep doing the same things and hoping something will change?

I read Garrett's comments about the goal line stand and it was a supreme cop out. Yes, we know it worked the entire drive. He kept pushing the envelope. Would a little play action after you have jammed it down their throats for 98 yards have been so terrible?

I have been behind Garrett this entire year. I now have serious doubts.

 

[TheSport78]

Even if it was the 1990s Cowboys were predictable.

Execution>> playcalling variety

Right but Garrett thinks he has the 1990s Cowboys right NOW, so he thinks we can just out execute everyone. This team shouldn't even be in the same sentence as the dynasty Cowboys. I remember a player from the 90's Cowboys said they could not WAIT to play 3-4 defenses during the season because they knew what the gameplan would be; smashmouth football by running the ball down their throats at the middle of the defense. Currently, Garrett fails to realize we don't have that offensive line to do so.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah they're more likely to talk trash when they win because they won. And being predictable probably had a lot to do with them winning.

So were the Deadskins just being polite and courteous by not saying our defense was predictable? Because they did shut us out for the majority of the game. Those Deadskins. A bunch of nice well mannered boys.........

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If you have players that repeatedly fail to execute, isn't it the coach's responsibility to throw variety in there or should they keep doing the same things and hoping something will change?

I read Garrett's comments about the goal line stand and it was a supreme cop out. Yes, we know it worked the entire drive. He kept pushing the envelope. Would a little play action after you have jammed it down their throats for 98 yards have been so terrible?

I have been behind Garrett this entire year. I now have serious doubts.

Let's be honest. If the Cowboys score there are we really bringing up Garrett's name today? It was the right call IMO. Didn't execute. Its that simple.

 

[windward]

If you have players that repeatedly fail to execute, isn't it the coach's responsibility to throw variety in there or should they keep doing the same things and hoping something will change?

I read Garrett's comments about the goal line stand and it was a supreme cop out. Yes, we know it worked the entire drive. He kept pushing the envelope. Would a little play action after you have jammed it down their throats for 98 yards have been so terrible?

I have been behind Garrett this entire year. I now have serious doubts.

Of course. I would have appreciated at leat a pass att near the goaline.

Garrett should be held accountable for his playcalling and needs to adjust it if the situation fits. He needs to learn that

The players are accountable for execution. They have to be held accountable. If they can't execute , get better players.

This is a thing Miami does very well imo regarding variety. They do make the most out of what normally would be considered average offensive talent at best

 

[khiladi]

How is Garrett's offense anything like the Cowboys of the 90s? Was anybody watching the same guy I was, where we saw Norv actually running an offense during the same game that Garrett was?Since when did Norv not use play-action, unlike Garrett?Simplicity is not to be confused with predictability... And predictability came into play in the Cowboys game in the 4rth quarter, when the other team was exhausted and despite knowing what was coming, couldn't do anything about it because of physical limitations...

 

[Gaede]

Let's be honest. If the Cowboys score there are we really bringing up Garrett's name today? It was the right call IMO. Didn't execute. Its that simple.

Yeah, of course it would have been the right call if we scored...But we didn't!

Two things went wrong a)the defense knew it was coming b)the players up front lost their battles. Both reasons are important, not just one.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

If the Chargers linebacker understands it,why doesn't Jason Garrett understand it? It should have been play action, DUH!!!!! Something I've been saying for the past 4 weeks, when they sell out to stop the run go play action.

"Dallas' first good scoring chance ended with a field goal that put it ahead 3-0. On the next deep drive, Marion Barber got to the 1 on first down, then was stuffed on three straight runs. The Cowboys moved him from halfback to fullback on the fourth-down play, but it didn't fool anyone.
"He's not getting paid to block," said linebacker Tim Dobbins, who was in on all three tackles from the 1. "We knew it was going to be a flip or a dive. I don't even know what they were thinking. I don't know if they watch film or what."

Really dumb........

same as last season....we never learn.

 

[Trendnet]

Yeah, of course it would have been the right call if we scored...But we didn't!

Two things went wrong a)the defense knew it was coming b)the players up front lost their battles. Both reasons are important, not just one.

This is beyond ridiculous.

It always comes down to execution.

You call the perfect play, and the RG misses his block, and your running back gets stuffed for no gain.

OMG!1!!1z!1! we are so predicitable!!! leetz, bang head, hammer nail multiple exclamation points

My 7 year old daughter was calling z playz!/1!1!!11.

You always have a 50/50 chance of calling run/pass... because what else is there?

I think Garrett does know his limitations with the offensive line, which is why there is so many shotgun plays. I think Garrett put his faith in Barber and the oline to punch it in... and they failed.

And the fans can scream, shout and wail about how predicitable the team is. And claim they know better from the comfort of their couch, secure in their anonymity.