Rich Rodriguez leaves WV for Michigan

[HogsRLegends]

What's the major advantage to coaching at Michigan? WVU is fully funded and has just as many scholarships to give recruits. Plus the guy is an alum of WVU. You would think he'd be more loyal to his alma mater.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I agree w/ all of your comments here BP. I think Michigan is going to wish they had not hired this coach in a couple of years.

This smells just like the Callahan hiring to me. I am not saying that he is Callahan. I am just saying the school and it's fans/alum are used to things one way. All of the sudden you get a new coach and his O and D are soooo different. I wonder how long he really will last there at Big Blue.

You know I will say he is a good coach, because he is.

I think he can get them back to their winning ways. I sure doubt he will have them losing to a D2 team like they did this year.

However they will find out it will take some time to make the transition. The interesting part of this scenario is that he has to use the assistants already at michigan due to contract issues. So he will not be having the people he wants.

This means not only does he have to teach the players his offense and other areas, but he will also have to teach his fellow coaches.

That will take some time. Now I have no doubt that he will succeed down the road. Problem will be if Bobby Bowden retires if he will bolt off to coach FSU if they offer. Word is that FSU is his dream job and the current guy some feel is in line for the FSU job once Bowden leaves...is also a WVU alum and on the list of possible Coaching candidates for WVU.

I also think a spread offensive team could have their way with a Big Ten conference that is known for other things. I don't think they have the mentality for the spread offense in the Big Ten so given the time I think he can bring michigan back to prominence. It just is a situation if he decides to leave once he gets them going for another job.

Here is a few things to watch with Michigan. Will he use their WRs or will it remain like he has with WVU and eventually cost Michigan good WR prospects because they don't want to just run bubble screens and block downfield for the run game.

Will it cost michigan good quality TEs? I say yes. Why? Because his whole time here I can count, on one hand, the number of catches...or even throws to, the TEs have gotten. The only time a TE gets a ball is when the FB actually is being used in an H-Back type role.

Will it cost Michigan good passing QB prospects. Yep, because that is not what he wants.

One last thing to watch for. If people got mad at Bill Parcells for being stubborn, even when a game plan was not working. Wait to you see this guy.

Bubble Screen, run the same runs over and over when it is clear it is not working at times. Ask South Florida how stubborn he can be. They beat us two times and instead of changing the game plan for them a little he did the exact same thing over and over this year and got yet another loss to them.

He will play the same plays over and over and over. It can be very frustrating at times and without a doubt has cost us games this season and last season.

However as I said, he will make michigan better if he sticks around long enough.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

What's the major advantage to coaching at Michigan? WVU is fully funded and has just as many scholarships to give recruits. Plus the guy is an alum of WVU. You would think he'd be more loyal to his alma mater.

Michigan is living on past greatness. Pretty Simple. However to be fair he could get more prospects for Michigan...only thing is Michigan State and other Big Ten Teams will get many of those top players (QB, TE, WRs) because they know they will only be used for the running game with Rich as the coach.

So in essence he will make them a better team, but he will lose some very good players and in doing so make the teams around him stronger in, at the very least , those three areas.

 

[Cochese]

One last thing to watch for. If people got mad at Bill Parcells for being stubborn, even when a game plan was not working. Wait to you see this guy.



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Please, you are acting like Michigan fans havent been used to the same 10-15 plays for the better part of a decade.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Please, you are acting like Michigan fans havent been used to the same 10-15 plays for the better part of a decade.

Are you used to the same bubble screen over and over?
Are you used to not having a TE catch a pass the whole year?
Are you used to not throwing the ball when it is obvious the defense is stacking the line?
Are you used to having talented WRs only to have them only block on running plays the majority of the time?

 

[WoodysGirl]

LITTLE BALLS OF HATE: Coaching hypocrisy

A 'transfer' should cost coaches a year

By JENNIFER FLOYD ENGEL
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

In terms of lying, hypocritical jerks, nobody comes close to the NCAA and college coaches.

Not all of them, mind you.

Just enough to wipe the sanctimonious smirk from every university president who has ever used "It's all about the student athletes" to justify not having a playoff in college football. Kathie Lee Gifford is more about the kids than the NCAA.

And just in case we had forgotten, we have RichRod of West Virginia to remind us.

Scratch that, Michigan. For now.

Coach Rodriguez swapped jobs because, in his words, Michigan presents "a very special opportunity," which I guess makes his alma mater the just-OK opportunity he used to further his career. My guess is this was not part of his recruiting pitch in living rooms a year ago.

And therein lies my problems with RichRod and his likes.

He is free to go wherever he pleases, to agree to a 70 percent raise and a contract through 2013 and bolt anyway, and to do so again and again and again. What is only fair is that he be subjected to the same NCAA rules as student athletes.

RichRod should have to sit out a year.

I mean once RichRod arrives in Ann Arbor, if a player wants to leave for "a very special opportunity" at, say, Ohio State, he has to sit out a year. Talk about your lying, hypocritical, jerk double standards.

Seems to me a 19-year-old kid deserves a little more leeway to change his mind than a 44-year-old man, especially a man who only a year ago flirted with another "very special opportunity" at 'Bama.

Again, RichRod had every right to bolt on his contract without personal penalty as long as he's willing to give his players freedom to go trolling for special opportunities at Michigan State, Florida and Oklahoma. Or else forfeit a season of eligibility himself.

To do anything else is lying, hypocritical and jerk-ish.

Or, in other words, typically typical for the NCAA and way too many college coaches.

That's an ender: RichRod has etched his name alongside Nick Saban and Bobby Petrino as a coach whose word is a little less than his bond.

Jennifer Floyd Engel, 817-390-7760
jenfloyd@star-telegram.com

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/columnists/jennifer_floyd_engel/story/366008.html

 

[trickblue]

You can have both of them.

Both of them tried to get WVU to pay more money after getting extensions. Rich got his bluff called and was not man enough to apologize to some people for trying to pull a fast one so instead on manning up he decided to go ahead and leave.

Actually what they are reporting on ESPN this morning is that Rodriguez didn't ask for any more money for himself, but wanted $200,000 to divide among his coaches who he felt were underpaid. Some facility upgrades. Waving the $5 fee charged to HS coaches to attend games, and permission to hire some grad assistants to help a couple of his coaches that were way overworked...

One of the major boosters (Bob something) is so furious with WVU that he is pulling a 12 mil pledge from the athletic program. He said a call to him would have taken care of those needs, needs that should have been taken care of anyway...

Looks like WVU is now paying for those solid-yellow uni's they wore vs. Pitt...

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

LITTLE BALLS OF HATE: Coaching hypocrisy

A 'transfer' should cost coaches a year

By JENNIFER FLOYD ENGEL
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

In terms of lying, hypocritical jerks, nobody comes close to the NCAA and college coaches.

Not all of them, mind you.

Just enough to wipe the sanctimonious smirk from every university president who has ever used "It's all about the student athletes" to justify not having a playoff in college football. Kathie Lee Gifford is more about the kids than the NCAA.

And just in case we had forgotten, we have RichRod of West Virginia to remind us.

Scratch that, Michigan. For now.

Coach Rodriguez swapped jobs because, in his words, Michigan presents "a very special opportunity," which I guess makes his alma mater the just-OK opportunity he used to further his career. My guess is this was not part of his recruiting pitch in living rooms a year ago.

And therein lies my problems with RichRod and his likes.

He is free to go wherever he pleases, to agree to a 70 percent raise and a contract through 2013 and bolt anyway, and to do so again and again and again. What is only fair is that he be subjected to the same NCAA rules as student athletes.

RichRod should have to sit out a year.

I mean once RichRod arrives in Ann Arbor, if a player wants to leave for "a very special opportunity" at, say, Ohio State, he has to sit out a year. Talk about your lying, hypocritical, jerk double standards.

Seems to me a 19-year-old kid deserves a little more leeway to change his mind than a 44-year-old man, especially a man who only a year ago flirted with another "very special opportunity" at 'Bama.

Again, RichRod had every right to bolt on his contract without personal penalty as long as he's willing to give his players freedom to go trolling for special opportunities at Michigan State, Florida and Oklahoma. Or else forfeit a season of eligibility himself.

To do anything else is lying, hypocritical and jerk-ish.

Or, in other words, typically typical for the NCAA and way too many college coaches.

That's an ender: RichRod has etched his name alongside Nick Saban and Bobby Petrino as a coach whose word is a little less than his bond.

Jennifer Floyd Engel, 817-390-7760
jenfloyd@star-telegram.com

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/columnists/jennifer_floyd_engel/story/366008.html

I agree...but there was a penalty of sorts. A $4 million dollar buy out for his contract.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Actually what they are reporting on ESPN this morning is that Rodriguez didn't ask for any more money for himself, but wanted $200,000 to divide among his coaches who he felt were underpaid. Some facility upgrades. Waving the $5 fee charged to HS coaches to attend games, and permission to hire some grad assistants to help a couple of his coaches that were way overworked...

One of the major boosters (Bob something) is so furious with WVU that he is pulling a 12 mil pledge from the athletic program. He said a call to him would have taken care of those needs, needs that should have been taken care of anyway...

Looks like WVU is now paying for those solid-yellow uni's they wore vs. Pitt...

He had the bargin chip last year and asked for all kinds of things. He received the majority of what he wanted LAST YEAR.

Not one year later he is already asking for more.

Sorry. Also first he went to meet with Michigan during the week they were leading up to the Pitt game. Think he was distracted at that time and it reflected in his coaching during that game?

So what he was doing was trying to get another bargain chip only one year later, while at the same time he should have been focusing on the Pitt game that would have put us into the NC game.

He could have asked after the game, but it is hard to trust someone who did the very same thing LAST year and is attempting to do it again.

He made a play and the AD called his bluff.

Furthermore it was not just about his other coaches and the things he is reporting. You can trust ESPN and Rich but that is not the whole story.

If I get time this evening I will give more details.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I think his offense will work. If you look at the Big 10, it has evolved much to little notice. Ohio St. has been running some spread formations and passing the ball a lot more. Illinois has been doing it as well. Oklahoma won it's 2000 national championship with a spread offense in a similar blue collar type of conference.

This is different than the Callahan situation. Nebraska had no clout when Callahan became head coach. Nebraska had a tough time recruiting any head coach. They couldn't even get Mike Zimmer to agree to go there. Callahan was a desperate last ditch effort to acquire any head coach. Michigan is still a top program and recruits want to go there. Callahan couldn't recruit the types of players he wanted; he had to settle on an ASU transfer in Sam Keller to get a QB because he was unable to recruit a top QB. Rodriquez has been a hot coaching prospect for the last 3 seasons. Last year, he was supposedly going to Miami. Rodriquez will be able to recruit a lot better players than Callahan.

 

[CarlJohnson]

Actually what they are reporting on ESPN this morning is that Rodriguez didn't ask for any more money for himself, but wanted $200,000 to divide among his coaches who he felt were underpaid. Some facility upgrades. Waving the $5 fee charged to HS coaches to attend games, and permission to hire some grad assistants to help a couple of his coaches that were way overworked...

One of the major boosters (Bob something) is so furious with WVU that he is pulling a 12 mil pledge from the athletic program. He said a call to him would have taken care of those needs, needs that should have been taken care of anyway...

Looks like WVU is now paying for those solid-yellow uni's they wore vs. Pitt...

Im sorry, i just cant believe a coach would leave his team because of a $5 fee for high school coaches and the oppurtunity for players to sell their books. Last year RR got a 60 - 70% raise, a 2 million dollar addition built on, they just started construction on the locker rooms(6 million dollars worth). I personally feel like he is using these things as excuses. He bolted on his team and his state and he knows its wrong so he's trying to make excuses. I completely understand a coach trying to move up, but he went about it all wrong. He went behind the administations back, and his teams back. And he had the nerve to notify his future recruits before he told his own players. Spineless if you ask me. This is what WV governor and long time friend of RR had to say “I have known Rich for most of his life, from a boy whose only wish was to play football at WVU to a young man whose only wish was to coach at WVU,” Manchin said in a statement. “His dreams came true and he brought back with him to West Virginia a love and a loyalty for our state that I though would never change.”
Agents, however, have turned Rodriguez’s dreams “into just another back-room business deal,” Manchin said.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Rumor has it he messed around with one of the WVU cheerleaders.

and there is problem with that?