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again, the OLine has looked better without Zack Martin

I think it shows just how not healthy Martin has been playing and really gutting it out.

but Hoffman really has shown a lot at LG and then to slide in at C as well against CIN was not bad
 

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This is why I don't understand we've been saying this all along it wasn't the fact that we rolled into the season without a new young running back or one of these free agents this is on Mike McCarthy he literally obviously didn't see or appreciate rico's but even though I saw last year Rico should have been the starter and Tony should have been backing him up that way Tony could have used his talent to do what he does best is a change of pace back but this year if he needed any extra light shined on rico's talent it would have been the Pittsburgh game he should have been getting 20 carries into Pittsburgh game so you wanna blame Jerry all you want for not getting a running back yeah that's what everybody's focusing on here and what they didn't really understand there's some people out here like myself that said Rico was as good as Tony Rico should have been the starter in the whole running back by committee that experiment should've ended in the Pittsburgh game but we saw this Eddie there's a group of us that knew Rico may not be elite he may not be a great creator he doesn't cut a lot he doesn't have great speed but he's one of those backs if you feed him 20 + * a game much like naji Harris much like Kareem hunt he's in that group he's as good as probably the 16 teams in the league running some people just didn't wanna see it.

Mike McCarthy's at fault for not seeing this and making sure the offense the offensive line the schemes the game planning and the play calls centered around getting the run game going with Rico being the featured back it would've been a lot different but he waited so long now we don't have our starting quarterback our starting wide receiver is is hurt or starting tight end without two games we're missing half our defense sure wait now but this is what you're supposed to be doing in training camp you're supposed to be working this out but I saw it last year this isn't a surprise this just didn't pop up recently Rico went healthy when he's not getting injured it's a very good NFL back that's it he's very good he's not great he's not elite but you can work with a guy like that look at how many games Kansas City has won with Kareem hunt they're the same back don't look at the numbers Harris isn't special either what's special about Harris is that he can run the ball a lot and not get tired or hurt but if you keep feeding guys and you find ways to break the defense down you eventually get what we're seeing at a Rico but it's too little too late as usual that's why Mike McCarthy should have been firing himself and demoting himself because if he can't see the mistakes were made by him..

That's a coach I don't want around he's a better head coach and offensive coordinator but as a head coach he should've saw this and fired himself at the offensive coordinator a long time ago...
 

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again, the OLine has looked better without Zack Martin

I think it shows just how not healthy Martin has been playing and really gutting it out.

but Hoffman really has shown a lot at LG and then to slide in at C as well against CIN was not bad
look dude that's not why this looks better sure Hoffman and bass have played very well but we saw this in the Pittsburgh game I saw this most times at Rico came in last year he should've been getting those carries at Tony got and Tony should have been backing him up because Tony's better as a change of pace Rico look like this whenever he's healthy he was pretty good at kick returns you could see it in his game if he was healthy and you fed the man his 20 carries a game like backs like he's supposed to this has been happening for longer than just recently most people saw Rico could be a solid starting running back he's not elite he's not special but if you feed him the damn football he looks like this he looked like this last year he looked like this in the Pittsburgh game before Martin went out let's go way back to the Pittsburgh game he's had several games where he could have probably got 100 yards if the stupid offensive coordinator slash head coach would have just kept feeding him the ball..

This is not a new development this is more proof we need a new coaching staff because they let Turpin sit on the bench they let Rico sit on the bench we needed to help on offense and they just let them sit there until it's too late now we've lost like 20 players and everybody's injured the season's over but now you decide to feed him the ball but what happened even in this last game after he's running for nearly seven yards per carry they throw three straight passes with a backup quarterback in a game that was fully in control it was a close game if not time most of the game and you abandoned the run game again when you have somebody hot you know ice him you keep feeding him the ball..
 

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This is not all Dowdle. He is finding some gaps when he gets the ball in his hands. He is getting an opportunity to demonstrate his elusiveness because now he is able to escape the D-line.

This young offensive line is beginning to come together.

You have 23 year olds Tyler Smith, Tyler Guyton and Cooper Beebe.

You have 25 year old Brock Hoffman and you have "old man" Steele at 27.

That is an average age of just over 24.

Edoga is 27, Asim Richards is 24, Waletzko is 25, and Nathan Thomas is 23.

Now throw in the two TE's Ferguson and Schoonmaker at 25 and 26 respectively (Schoonmaker is older than Ferguson?). They are backed by two more 25 year olds, Spann-Ford and Fant.

I appreciate Zack Martin, he is a great, but even greats are victims to time. It would be a good time for him to retire and the Cowboys need to commit to keeping this O-line mostly intact. I wouldn't consider Steele to be a "core member" but it could work for now.

Keep Dowdle. They need to add another productive RB. They aren't adding to their arsenal if they add a RB only to lose Dowdle. It's time for Zeke and Vaughn to go.
 

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731 is where he is at now with 4 games to go. It will be close. Who would have thought that was possible?
Very possible if Jerry hadnt ruined it by bringing a washed up rb back into the fold and forced more of time share than anyone likely wanted.
 

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Rico looks like he’s secured a roster spot for next season. We’ll see during the offseason what backs they bring in to compete with him. We’ll likely draft a back. Zeke and Deuce will be gone.
KJJ---straight up DAWG
 

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Very possible if Jerry hadnt ruined it by bringing a washed up rb back into the fold and forced more of time share than anyone likely wanted.
Wrong wrong and wrong the coach has 100% full control on who he brings into the game and how much he uses him if the proof isn't there how much is he touch the ball the last five weeks no one's forcing the ball to him now why would you think they would have forced the ball to him early no this is all on Mike McCarthy the offensive coordinator the game plans the in game play calling and the use and utilization of your players look at last year they used Rico and Tony wrong zeke wasn't around you gonna blame them that yeah I'm telling you that Rico would have been the better guy to use in the exact place that they tried to force Tony into and let Tony be Tony last year would have been a lot better Rico would have been the better choice last year he didn't get it again this year that's on Mike McCarthy the miss utilization of Turpin hunter all that and let me give you the real skinny on this..


Mike McCarthy blew this last year how do you use those running backs properly had he got hunter in the mix more seems like after the fumble he was in the doghouse if they would have developed hunter as a blocker and a short yardage guy last year guess what Jerry's probably not even thinking about bringing Ezekiel Elliott back and that's the truth you wanna start bringing in conspiracy theories start saying things that nobody can prove whether they're right or wrong I'm telling you zeke wouldn't be here and Mike McCartney did his job better one game last year and at the beginning of this year that's all on him he liked running back by committee but what did this dude come out and lie to us after the bye week and say he's gonna get Rico more touches and more involved and it didn't happen right away after that Pittsburgh game Rico should've got 20 carries every game no matter what till he got hurt they should have forced him to ball starting back then and they did not that's on Mike McCarthy Jerry Jones does not make up rosters and game plans he gives Mike McCarthy the players but Mike McCarthy is use of the players is 100% on him there's never been a single player or coach X player or coach that has says otherwise Jerry does not force players on the field just because they're his favorites he puts them on the roster sure but he doesn't tell them when to use seven how much to use them that is another fan born narrative that's also false..

These wild conspiracies so you can put more blame on Jerry Jones sure zeke shouldn't have been brought back but I blame Mike McCartney the offensive coordinator for doing this and the head coach for not seeing how bad a choice it was.... After that Pittsburgh game all the proof was needed that Rico was the starter and they could have used him as much as he wanted to and he did not he was dead set on bringing up Vaughn bringing up zeke trying to force him in the games because he felt like he was trying to find the right mix there was no right mix it should have been Rico and then some dude to spell him for rest that's it...
 

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This is not all Dowdle. He is finding some gaps when he gets the ball in his hands. He is getting an opportunity to demonstrate his elusiveness because now he is able to escape the D-line.

This young offensive line is beginning to come together.

You have 23 year olds Tyler Smith, Tyler Guyton and Cooper Beebe.

You have 25 year old Brock Hoffman and you have "old man" Steele at 27.

That is an average age of just over 24.

Edoga is 27, Asim Richards is 24, Waletzko is 25, and Nathan Thomas is 23.

Now throw in the two TE's Ferguson and Schoonmaker at 25 and 26 respectively (Schoonmaker is older than Ferguson?). They are backed by two more 25 year olds, Spann-Ford and Fant.

I appreciate Zack Martin, he is a great, but even greats are victims to time. It would be a good time for him to retire and the Cowboys need to commit to keeping this O-line mostly intact. I wouldn't consider Steele to be a "core member" but it could work for now.

Keep Dowdle. They need to add another productive RB. They aren't adding to their arsenal if they add a RB only to lose Dowdle. It's time for Zeke and Vaughn to go.
You only need to keep doubt off these cheap like I like him but he is a little older I know he has life on his legs 'cause he wasn't used that much but you can get a guy in the draft in the 5th or 6th round like him that's how we got him I believe he was an undrafted free agent I don't remember how we got him but he developed slow he's kinda like the Cooper rush of this team right now I mean you gotta decide whether he's gonna be a progress stopper at what price is he gonna want now that he might get close to 1000 yards this year I mean I'm not keeping that guy for five or $6 million I like him don't get me wrong I hope he's on this team but you can pick a running back in the second or third round and like Miami adjusted you can get another one in the fifth round somewhere around there you can pick another guy that can do rico's job that's the problem around here you guys fall in love with people then you say it's Jerry keeping players too long playing his favorites..

I get what you're saying but they need to deal with this in March figure out what rico's asking for he wants to stay here if not my draft is gonna pick two young running backs and just start over in the running backroom elliot's not coming back and you better find a way to get hunter into the mix as a short yardage guy and a blocker and I just gotta hope we have a better coaching staff next year because Rico should have been running the ball since the Pittsburgh game and he got iced by his own coaches..​
 

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It should be abundantly clear to everyone but SteveThe Cowboy and RonaldT24 how far Zeke has fallen when he’s been effectively benched for a middling RB like Dowdle.
 

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We need speed and elusiveness from the backs, I appreciate his effort but let him go.
I’d keep him and add a RB. He’s not gonna be expensive and he’s a really solid RB. Add a stud to go with him and the oline is starting to develope. We could have a good run game next year
 

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So for the line play improving, are we gonna give Solari credit for that? And the development of the young guys? Or is he still trash on this board
It appears to me they are getting better. We started a LT who’s never been a LT and a center who’s never been a center. Maybe he’s not that bad are maybe they are just getting reps and developing
 

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So for the line play improving, are we gonna give Solari credit for that? And the development of the young guys? Or is he still trash on this board
True. Honestly if Bass and Hoffman turn into legitimate starters how can anyone deny that Solari has done a nice job with those guys. Add in Beebe trending the right direction and thats three guys drafted in the 3rd round or not at all that will have turned into legitimate players. That's a fantastic job of player development.
 

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You only need to keep doubt off these cheap like I like him but he is a little older I know he has life on his legs 'cause he wasn't used that much but you can get a guy in the draft in the 5th or 6th round like him that's how we got him I believe he was an undrafted free agent I don't remember how we got him but he developed slow he's kinda like the Cooper rush of this team right now I mean you gotta decide whether he's gonna be a progress stopper at what price is he gonna want now that he might get close to 1000 yards this year I mean I'm not keeping that guy for five or $6 million I like him don't get me wrong I hope he's on this team but you can pick a running back in the second or third round and like Miami adjusted you can get another one in the fifth round somewhere around there you can pick another guy that can do rico's job that's the problem around here you guys fall in love with people then you say it's Jerry keeping players too long playing his favorites..

I get what you're saying but they need to deal with this in March figure out what rico's asking for he wants to stay here if not my draft is gonna pick two young running backs and just start over in the running backroom elliot's not coming back and you better find a way to get hunter into the mix as a short yardage guy and a blocker and I just gotta hope we have a better coaching staff next year because Rico should have been running the ball since the Pittsburgh game and he got iced by his own coaches..​
I see what you are saying and I agree, I wouldn't want to keep him if his market value is inflated but if the Cowboys don't sign him then they need to sign someone. I don't think they should begin a season with two rookie RB's

I hope the Cowboys get away from the idea that having one productive RB is enough. I'm not saying that they should split carries. Clearly, they are aware that injuries happen.

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I’d keep him and add a RB. He’s not gonna be expensive and he’s a really solid RB. Add a stud to go with him and the oline is starting to develope. We could have a good run game next year
The RB market seems to be anyones guess each year, but what makes you think he wont be expensive? Its tough to find a true comparison for Dowdle, so I'm trying to be open minded on the subject, but it seems to me he would be somewhere in that Hubbard/Mixon/Connor/Pollard type group in looking at a new deal based on his production this season. If he keeps up his current pace or close to it the next few weeks he stock may skyrocket.
 

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It appears to me they are getting better. We started a LT who’s never been a LT and a center who’s never been a center. Maybe he’s not that bad are maybe they are just getting reps and developing
I think a lot of fans immediately blame the coach when a player or position group struggles. It's natural to think that, but to your point it often goes far beyond the coach.
 
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