Ridiculous Linehan Critics (Lucky play)

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What the hell are you talking about, nimrod? Can you even read English? I said not one had gone for less than 2 yards.

Here are the game logs...in each Lucky had 1 carry from scrimmage.

Chicago, 3
SF, 8
Cin, 9
GB, 26
PHI, 17
Cle, 2
Wash, 15
Minn, 6

Average: 10.75 yards

It's pointless arguing with people who dislike him. He cultivates the goofball persona and some people are going to hate him not matter what.

He missed a game and had a run where Ayers made a heck of a play. Confirmation bias ensues.

 

[T-RO]

The problem I have with Lucky is that he's not a smart player. He comes running out of the end zone, dropped at the 14. He takes an easy pitch, fumbles it. What is his mind thinking, seriously? Plays like that need to be handed over to Dunbar and you can sit Lucky Whitehead until he's replaced in the off season. Players like him are a dime a dozen.

I'm not a huge Whitehead fan either. I'd prefer we upgrade w/a different speed guy.

The play got blown up. Looked bad. But it was the only time this year a play with him hasn't worked this whole season.

 

[T-RO]

I had no problem with the play call, because it would have been a big play had it been executed properly. I had a problem with the execution.

Most fans don't have the aptitude to make such a distinction.

Bad play = dumb call, end of story.

 

[Stash]

What the hell are you talking about, nimrod? Can you even read English? I said not one had gone for less than 2 yards.

Here are the game logs...in each Lucky had 1 carry from scrimmage.

Chicago, 3
SF, 8
Cin, 9
GB, 26
PHI, 17
Cle, 2
Wash, 15
Minn, 6

Average: 10.75 yards

And you talk about that like it's some big deal, oblivious to the fact that it's an insignificant sample size. When did "two yards" become a big deal, or something to brag about?

How many times does Whitehead fumble the ball when he touches it?

 

[Clove]

I'm not a huge Whitehead fan either. I'd prefer we upgrade w/a different speed guy.

The play got blown up. Looked bad. But it was the only time this year a play with him hasn't worked this whole season.

It's the reliable factor that concerns me. Yeah, he is pretty good when he executes, but do you count on him in a BIG IMPORTANT moment to make that play?

 

[T-RO]

It's pointless arguing with people who dislike him. He cultivates the goofball persona and some people are going to hate him not matter what.

He missed a game and had a run where Ayers made a heck of a play. Confirmation bias ensues.

Cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, recency bias, etc...are rampant around here.

 

[Stash]

It's pointless arguing with people who dislike him. He cultivates the goofball persona and some people are going to hate him not matter what.

He missed a game and had a run where Ayers made a heck of a play. Confirmation bias ensues.

Sure thing. Blame those who hate the repeated screw ups, not the screwup himself.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

You need to make a more valid point than that. Had he called TWO other reverses in the same half? That's the point. Opponent's, especially defenses as good as the Bucs, make adjustments very quickly. Also, they are quick & small, so why keep going wide? Pound them into dust by running right at them. The trickeration works once in a while, but that's for teams who don't have the greatest O-line in captivity. Give the ball to Zeke & let him at the rest of those beasts eat.

 

[lukin2006]

I'm not so sure people are critizing the use of the jet sweep, it's the use of Lucky we don't like...

And Lineham play calling at times is very questionable.

 

[dwreck27]

Im sorry the jet sweep should be seen a few time where the personal gives the defense an extra thing to worry about.... but should be ran once or no more times during the game...

The first one was effective..... every other time it was nothing a hindrance

 

[Bigdog]

I would agree with you but as Garett preaches to the team, you need to understand situational football. It is 3rd and 2 at a very critical part of the game. Don't try to be cute give to Zeke for the first down than run the reverse down the line.maybe the next play when the defense is demoralize. Just a thought.

 

[mwj473]

And you talk about that like it's some big deal, oblivious to the fact that it's an insignificant sample size. When did "two yards" become a big deal, or something to brag about?

How many times does Whitehead fumble the ball when he touches it?

I'm pretty sure he picked 2 yards because of the situation, it was 3rd and 2. He was basically saying that the previous 8 times this was ran, it would have resulted in a 1st down if used in this same instance all 8 times, those are pretty good results. 2 yards is always good if it nets you a 1st down.

I do not have a problem with the play call, just the execution.

 

[conner01]

Every play is genius if it wirks

 

[the_h0wey]

A lot of folks and even guys like Broaddus are criticizing the calls to give Lucky the ball.

Let me remind all the critics here of a little history some are conveniently forgetting.

It's a big game and we are on the road in Lambeau field. We are backed up on our own 11-yard line and its third and one. 45 second remain on the clock. If we don't convert we punt and Rogers will only need 20 yards to put points on the board for the Packers.

What does Lineman do? He runs the ball...using Lucky Whitehead. WTH?

And the play nets 26 launching a lightning drive where we score 7 points.

If one or two of those mis-direction plays with Lucky work last night...everyone is praising Linehan. Instead--despite a win and 430 yards against a top defense--we have a swarm of critics piling on.

Give it a break people. The Lucky runs have actually been generally high percentage this year and they are instrumental in keeping safeties from crashing down into the box.

I like the Lucky plays. If anything it keeps the Defense honest. It seems like more often than not they are for a positive gain. They also set up different plays later in the game.

 

[ufcrules1]

I'm not a huge Whitehead fan either. I'd prefer we upgrade w/a different speed guy.

The play got blown up. Looked bad. But it was the only time this year a play with him hasn't worked this whole season.

There was another time it worked and then Lucky fumbled the ball. Bad things usually happen when Lucky gets the ball.. he is DUMB.

 

[AzorAhai]

Neither of those plays to Lucky were good calls. They both came on drives where they were ramming it down the defenses throats. I don't care if he gained yards, or didn't. It was a higher probability for a negative play than a Zeke run or a Dak pass. They were bad calls, because they were completely unnecessary and lower probability that's where it ends for me.

 

[MikeT22]

We tend to try and get too cute sometimes rather than play to our strength. Not just this particular play, but often just too predictable in the play calling. We rarely run the ball 2 straight plays. I can even guess most of the time that when we run on first down for less than 5 yards we're going to pass on 2nd down. Not to mention the number of times we just go with an empty backfield telegraphing to the world we are going to pass, even when it's not 3rd and long.

Obviously at 12-2 it's hard to be too critical. But once in the playoffs it's going to get much tougher especially when teams know you're tendencies and you don't adjust.

 

[loublue22]

It would have worked but there's a high risk of fumble, and it was 3rd and 2

 

[DandyDon52]

I would agree with you but as Garett preaches to the team, you need to understand situational football. It is 3rd and 2 at a very critical part of the game. Don't try to be cute give to Zeke for the first down than run the reverse down the line.maybe the next play when the defense is demoralize. Just a thought.

maybe better to run jet on 1st downs??

 

[DandyDon52]

We tend to try and get too cute sometimes rather than play to our strength. Not just this particular play, but often just too predictable in the play calling. We rarely run the ball 2 straight plays. I can even guess most of the time that when we run on first down for less than 5 yards we're going to pass on 2nd down. Not to mention the number of times we just go with an empty backfield telegraphing to the world we are going to pass, even when it's not 3rd and long.

Obviously at 12-2 it's hard to be too critical. But once in the playoffs it's going to get much tougher especially when teams know you're tendencies and you don't adjust.

good points, I dont really care for the empty backfield formation.
And we should run more.
But we are 12-2 so.....