***Rip Garrett Thread***

[cbow44]

Um, no one said do nothing but run. But you call the safe plays when you're up by 24 points and just chip away at the clock and the first downs. I don't see why that's so hard to get unless you're an impatient 10 year old who has to see an exciting pass play every play of every game.

um, so when were you going to throw the ball ?

 

[Randy White]

Well, if you look at the passing game after the first INT for a TD, it wasn't exactly doing anything either. Not for Dallas.

I've many people say "well we have to pass because the run isn't working".

But why doesn't that work with running when the passing game is sputtering?

And what do you do when neither is working and you have a 17 point lead? Shouldn't you go with the safest route and get the hell out of dodge unscathed?

The answer to all of your questions is the roster itself. The fact of the matter is that for better or worse, THE best players on offense on this Cowboys' roster are the QBs, TE, and WR and that's who you have to take to the dance. If the offensive line and running backs were the best players, then you go with them.

It's really no different than what the Patriots do or Packers do, philosophically speaking.

 

[dooomsday]

The answer to all of your question is the roster itself. The fact of the matter is that for better or worse, THE best players on offense on this Cowboys' roster are the QBs, TE, and WR and that's who you have to take to the dance. If the offensive line and running backs were the best players, then you go with them.

It's really no different than what the Patriots do or Packers do, philosophically speaking.

Exactly. Throw in NO. And every other good team in the league.

Now Minny? They run.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I don't care to play the scapegoat game (in part because I don't know enough about football to know whether all his calls are bad or whatnot).

However, I couldn't believe the decision to not run the ball on 1st down with 4:22 left and the Cowboys up 3. We get five or six yards on that carry, and you're looking at a whole different ballgame. Instead, Romo goes back to pass, gets pressured, and then throws a prayer off his back foot which of course gets picked off.

Not to take all the blame off Romo or the offensive line, but they should have never been put in that situation to begin with. We needed to be chewing up clock with the run on 1st down.

This is what I'm talking about. Stupid play calls. No need for scapegoat. But he had more than 1 dumb call. Not going for the FG on 4th down in the beginning was stupid too.

 

[BHendri5]

you cannot blame Garrett, the first pick maybe Romo did not see Barbie, and maybe he did , I think he did but thought he could get the ball over him, but Barbie got up to intercept the ball, ok someone make the tackle to keep him from scoring. The second pick should have been a PI called on Chris Houston, he was clearly holding Robinson.
The Third pick was on Romo clearly he should have just thrown that ball away.

 

[Org1]

In game management blame all the way
ALL THE WAY

Almost any other coach doesn't do to their QB what Garrett did today

3rd qrt 27-3

Romo up to that point did all on offesne that was needed to walk out of there with a win

There is no other call but -----

Get the ball
1st down - run
2nd down - run
If there is a 3rd down, probably pass, but maybe even run
4th down - Punt and let the D that has only given up 3 pts go to work

You do this over and over again
Det makes it 27-10
Guess what Garrett --- you do it again
I mean, you do this until it is 27-17 if it even gets there

Milk the clock to death !
That team had no momentum down that much with our D putting the clamps on
17-6 is different then you can get mad at coaches for playing not to lose but 27-3
C'mon man the game is pretty much done

WHY ARE WE PASSING ON 1ST AND 10 UP 27-3 ?
When you are up by this much and their offense is doing nothing sometimes the best coaching decisions are the ridiculously obvious ones
C'mon man !

Romo won the game up to that point!
You run the ball and let that man coast until he is needed again
Why put him in the position to pass on 1st down up 27-3

"I'll get them with a playaction here!"

:bang2:

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Every one seems to have COmmon sense to run the ball in that situation except for Garrett, put pressure on the Lions D to stop it and run out the clock.

Garrett I guess didn't watch the Lions VIkings game last week, Vikings doing the same dumb thing by not giving it to AP:bang2:

 

[BourbonBalz]

Garrett deserves just as much of the blame as Romo. Together they were responsible for an epic choke.

 

[jimmy40]

you cannot blame Garrett, the first pick maybe Romo did not see Barbie, and maybe he did , I think he did but thought he could get the ball over him, but Barbie got up to intercept the ball, ok someone make the tackle to keep him from scoring. The second pick should have been a PI called on Chris Houston, he was clearly holding Robinson.
The Third pick was on Romo clearly he should have just thrown that ball away.

bull crap

 

[dooomsday]

you cannot blame Garrett, the first pick maybe Romo did not see Barbie, and maybe he did , I think he did but thought he could get the ball over him, but Barbie got up to intercept the ball, ok someone make the tackle to keep him from scoring. The second pick should have been a PI called on Chris Houston, he was clearly holding Robinson.
The Third pick was on Romo clearly he should have just thrown that ball away.

It was 3rd and 2 on his 2nd pick 6 after running the previous 2 plays. But lets not let facts get in the way of a Romo apology.

Run:

1-10-DAL 44
(7:13) 29-D.Murray right guard to DET 49 for 7 yards (93-K.Vanden Bosch).
2-3-DET 49

Run:

(6:31) 29-D.Murray right tackle to DET 48 for 1 yard (55-S.Tulloch).
3-2-DET 48

PICK 6!

(5:48) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass short right intended for 81-L.Robinson INTERCEPTED by 23-C.Houston at DET 44. 23-C.Houston for 56 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Return down right sideline. The Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

2nd half rushing:

11 rushes = 33 yards, 3.0 avg

The Cowboys weren't going ANYWHERE on the ground. If the QB doesn't become the beach blond bimbo he used to date, the team wins. This loss has NOTHING to do with play calling. If Garrett is going to be called out for something, let it be for not ripping Tony a new one on the sidelines and even bench him.

There's absolutely ZERO excuse for a 6 year veteran to be making this type of STUPID mistakes, ESPECIALLY on a team like this one.

I'm not sure where you're getting those numbers from, but you're wrong. Our backs carried 13 times for 48 yards in the second half for a 3.7 average.

So we have the ball with 4:22 left. If we run on first and second down and just get our 3.7 average for the half, we eat a minute and a half off the clock and set up a very manageable 3rd and short. You get a first down there and the ballgame is over.

Isn't that easy? Well, apparently it isn't for Jason "XBox 360" Garrett.

Too much can go wrong throwing on first down there. You've got an erratic QB who has already made two huge mistakes. Even if he doesn't throw a pick, an incompletion stops the clock and puts you in a tough spot on 2nd and 10. The risk outweighs the reward on a play call like that so much that it's ridiculous. Want to call that play on your Madden video game? Fine, but in real life? Idiocy.

 

[Dodger12]

In game management blame all the way
ALL THE WAY

Almost any other coach doesn't do to their QB what Garrett did today

3rd qrt 27-3

Romo up to that point did all on offesne that was needed to walk out of there with a win

There is no other call but -----

Get the ball
1st down - run
2nd down - run
If there is a 3rd down, probably pass, but maybe even run
4th down - Punt and let the D that has only given up 3 pts go to work

You do this over and over again
Det makes it 27-10
Guess what Garrett --- you do it again
I mean, you do this until it is 27-17 if it even gets there

Milk the clock to death !
That team had no momentum down that much with our D putting the clamps on
17-6 is different then you can get mad at coaches for playing not to lose but 27-3
C'mon man the game is pretty much done

WHY ARE WE PASSING ON 1ST AND 10 UP 27-3 ?
When you are up by this much and their offense is doing nothing sometimes the best coaching decisions are the ridiculously obvious ones
C'mon man !

Romo won the game up to that point!
You run the ball and let that man coast until he is needed again
Why put him in the position to pass on 1st down up 27-3

"I'll get them with a playaction here!"

:bang2:

Yep. Yes sir. You establish some running game. 27 to 3 with all the momentum and our defense and any coach in the NFL would make the other team beat us. Any coach in the NFL would take that scenario and (literally) run with it. Unreal.

 

[DallasEast]

bull crap

I need to go back and review the down, but it originally looked like Houston jammed Robinson at the line of scrimmage. That's his job and it put him in excellent position to make the interception. It's why that particular interception should not be placed on Romo. The other two interceptions were clearly his fault however.

 

[UVAwahoos]

In game management blame all the way
ALL THE WAY

Almost any other coach doesn't do to their QB what Garrett did today

3rd qrt 27-3

Romo up to that point did all on offesne that was needed to walk out of there with a win

There is no other call but -----

Get the ball
1st down - run
2nd down - run
If there is a 3rd down, probably pass, but maybe even run
4th down - Punt and let the D that has only given up 3 pts go to work

You do this over and over again
Det makes it 27-10
Guess what Garrett --- you do it again
I mean, you do this until it is 27-17 if it even gets there

Milk the clock to death !
That team had no momentum down that much with our D putting the clamps on
17-6 is different then you can get mad at coaches for playing not to lose but 27-3
C'mon man the game is pretty much done

WHY ARE WE PASSING ON 1ST AND 10 UP 27-3 ?
When you are up by this much and their offense is doing nothing sometimes the best coaching decisions are the ridiculously obvious ones
C'mon man !

Romo won the game up to that point!
You run the ball and let that man coast until he is needed again
Why put him in the position to pass on 1st down up 27-3

"I'll get them with a playaction here!"

:bang2:

Why don't the Garrett supporters understand this? It's like the guy can do no wrong...when clearly he has done lots of wrong. He messed up a lot in both our wins too. The guy is young and inexperienced. Not sure why people have such a hard time admitting this.

 

[ChopBlock]

Garrett deserves just as much of the blame as Romo. Together they were responsible for an epic choke.

They make a great pair. Throw in Jerry and we've got the three stooges on our hands.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

It was 3rd and 2 on his 2nd pick 6 after running the previous 2 plays. But lets not let facts get in the way of a Romo apology.

Run:

1-10-DAL 44
(7:13) 29-D.Murray right guard to DET 49 for 7 yards (93-K.Vanden Bosch).
2-3-DET 49

Run:

(6:31) 29-D.Murray right tackle to DET 48 for 1 yard (55-S.Tulloch).
3-2-DET 48

PICK 6!

(5:48) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass short right intended for 81-L.Robinson INTERCEPTED by 23-C.Houston at DET 44. 23-C.Houston for 56 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Return down right sideline. The Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld.

I agree man that play ticked me off. Murray and Choice had both ripped off a couple of nice runs on that drive and then on 3rd and short Garrett spreads it out and throws.

 

[RastaRocket]

So..... does this thread mean Rob "The Dude" Ryan will be our HC?

 

[dooomsday]

I agree man that play ticked me off. Murray and Choice had both ripped off a couple of nice runs on that drive and then on 3rd and short Garrett spreads it out and throws.

We ran on 1st and 2nd. Which is what these guy wanted. They dont even know what actually happened.

His first pick was NOT from the shot gun. It was a 1st and 10 pass from our own 27. Big deal.

The only shot gun was on 3rd down after trying to run.

Neither pick were vertical plays.

All lies and bunk by, I assume, guys who hated Garrett already. And this morning probably thought the elite Romo was carrying him. Until he reverted. Now we cant use him and these dumb throws are someone elses fault.

 

[Sixert]

Garrett's problem is that he is in love with Romo's stats. For instance, on the near touchdown pass to Olgletree, Garrett looses a time out reviewing a possible Romo passing TD. Why?? To get Romo the TD? First and Goal on the 1..
Next play Romo pass to Witten. Got to get that Romo TD...

For Romo to be great he must have a Offensive Play caller that will be in his ear controlling his impulses the whole game. Garrett is too much of the problem to be able to fix the problem.

I blame Garret more than Romo.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

um, so when were you going to throw the ball ?

I wasn't going to throw it. I wanted Garrett to call running plays on some 1st and 2nd downs.