Rivers so far looks like the real deal

[THUMPER]

So now the Boys are guilty of passing on those who were drafted before their pick. Brilliant.

Speaking of brilliant, try reading the entire post/thread before responding...

I posted that we had opportunities to trade up for Palmer and Leinart and to trade for Rivers last year.

 

[Angus]

I just don't believe Parcells wants to draft a young QB or to even work with one unless he has to (like if Bledsoe gets hurt).

I had no doubts about any of these 3 guys but then as I said, I'm a bit of a homer regarding each one of them. Of the 3, Rivers is the one who impressed me the most in college but Leinart looks like he could end up being the best of the 3 as a pro. I couldn't believe how cool he was against the Bears and how the team responded to him. He has those leadership qualities that you simply can't teach. I saw a lot of it when he was at USC but wasn't sure how well it would translate to the NFL in his rookie year. What a waste that he is with the sorry Cardinals.

I feel completely confident in predicting that we will NEVER win a SB without a top QB, and Bledsoe doesn't qualify as that. No matter how much talent we add at LB and TE we aren't going to win the big one until we address the QB position and that puts us a few years away yet.

Unless Romo is the answer. You might be surprised.

 

[J-DOG]

Unless Romo is the answer. You might be surprised.

Other than Rivers being a high draft pick I did not see much difference between Rivers and Romo coming into this season.
I think it's funny how people are so quick to say that Dallas's chances go down the drain if Bledsoe is benched or injured for the season.
I disagree and I think if Bledsoe doesn't improve soon he will get benched.

 

[joseephuss]

Other than Rivers being a high draft pick I did not see much difference between Rivers and Romo coming into this season.
I think it's funny how people are so quick to say that Dallas's chances go down the drain if Bledsoe is benched or injured for the season.
I disagree and I think if Bledsoe doesn't improve soon he will get benched.

I would say the level of competition that Rivers and Romo faced in college makes a difference. There is a very distinct different in talent level between 1-A and 1-AA college ball. I would give Rivers the edge coming into the season based soley on college play.

Now I do agree that Bledsoe needs to improve his game or he will eventually get benched. I am getting to the point that even if Romo does come in and sucks, it will be better for Dallas in the long run. They need to start learning about their long term QB solutions and needs. Clearly, Bledsoe is not a long term answer at the position. Will Romo be? I don't know. I hope so and if he is not, then Dallas needs to do something about it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I would give Rivers the edge coming into the season based soley on college play.

college experience means jack once you're in the NFL, it's how you respond to coaching, physical abilities, the type of coaching you receive etc., pedigree is way down the list

 

[joseephuss]

college experience means jack once you're in the NFL, it's how you respond to coaching, physical abilities, the type of coaching you receive etc., pedigree is way down the list

I would not say it doesn't mean jack. It probably is not the most important factor, but it can matter. Going to a great college does not guarantee anything. I would not pretend that it does. Neither does playing in a major conference. I just think specifically between Romo and Rivers coming into the season, that Rivers had the advantage based on his big college background. That doesn't mean that Romo can't over take him. Just you have to start somewhere.

Romo is starting behind Bledsoe, who has the big college background, many starts in the NFL, big game expericence(even if it is all bad), obviously Parcells likes the way Drew responds to coaching and a big arm. Romo has very little to go on to get the nod.

If you are at a good college utlizing pro sytle systems, you can find out some of those answers about a player. That is why USC is producing some guys ready for the pros.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I would not say it doesn't mean jack. It probably is not the most important factor, but it can matter. Going to a great college does not guarantee anything. I would not pretend that it does. Neither does playing in a major conference. I just think specifically between Romo and Rivers coming into the season, that Rivers had the advantage based on his big college background. That doesn't mean that Romo can't over take him. Just you have to start somewhere.

Romo is starting behind Bledsoe, who has the big college background, many starts in the NFL, big game expericence(even if it is all bad), obviously Parcells likes the way Drew responds to coaching and a big arm. Romo has very little to go on to get the nod.

If you are at a good college utlizing pro sytle systems, you can find out some of those answers about a player. That is why USC is producing some guys ready for the pros.

all true, but the speed of the game is much faster in the NFL compared to any level of college competition, pro-style college systems help w/ the terminology, but that's about it

btw, I'm not totally disregarding college competition and success against it

 

[joseephuss]

all true, but the speed of the game is much faster in the NFL compared to any level of college competition, pro-style college systems help w/ the terminology, but that's about it

btw, I'm totally disregarding college competition and success against it

Sure. Not everyone can make that jump to the next level and speed is one of the main reasons why.

I don't know why you are totally disregarding college competition. It plays a part. Not the main part, but it matters. There is a reason that most guys drafted are from major college programs. There are many guys like Walter Payton and Jerry Rice that succeed in the NFL from small college. They are just good football players and would have succeeded no maEdittter where they played. But for evey one of them, there are many more that played at a big school.

Edit:

Sorry, I responded before you could clear up your post.

 

[CF74]

I had to bench Carson Palmer over Rivers on my FF league..

 

[ghst187]

I saw a LOT of Rivers' games at NC St and I thought he was clearly the best QB in that draft based on college production. He singlehandedly made NC St a LOT better than they really were. He did have a slightly odd throwing motion but what impressed me about him, and the single most important attribute of a QB, was his decision making.
I would have loved to have gotten him but knew he'd go too high. I thought he'd be a lot better than Sheli.
That's what I thought and trust me, I'm not saying I was right because I'd still say such judgments would be VERY premature. But those were my thoughts on Rivers coming out of NC St. He was a lot of fun to watch. Seems to really be doing well so far in SD too.
My hope for him as a pro was always just that he would shame the Mannings for what they did by being twice the QB that Sheli ever turned out to be....

 

[bbgun]

Why should I care about his progress? It's not like we passed him over or something.