Rob Ryan Fired per twitter ESPNDallas **merged**

[percyhoward]

“When you play that way for the first 10 games, you’re supposed to be 9-1 and or 10-0,” Ryan said. “We were 5-5.”

These were opposing QB's numbers against our defense over the first 10 games:
188 of 305 2,031 yds 11 td 4 int 87.7 rtg

That would be a little lower than the middle of the league, or about 5-5.

 

[gimmesix]

Well like I said before, Our DC did so much more with what he had than our OC did with what he had.

I have no problem with that statement. But it isn't exactly an endorsement of Ryan.

I'll take this move (depending on who we get to replace him, if we switch to a 4-3, etc.) and continue to hope one is coming as well at OC.

 

[Hoov]

So really everyone's anger is all about Garrett staying, not Ryan going.

So I guess it would have been better for Dallas to do nothing at all based on that logic. Instead, it fired a so-so defensive coordinator.

I support that move instead of just staying status quo. Garrett isn't going anywhere, so other changes have to be made if this team is going to compete. There are better defensive coordinators than Ryan out there who can help that side of the ball.

I think this is the issue for a lot of people

 

[OklahomaCowboy88]

:laugh1: at people who think an established, respected, far superior Head Coach like Lovie Smith would come work as an underling to the clueless noob Jason Garrett. Yeah. Sure. :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

 

[Naruto]

Hot air and bravado can only take you so far.

I thank him for giving us some semblence of a backbone but in the end he was clearly average at scheming

 

[ak47kaehu]

You're a Commanders fan, what do you care.

No i am not a skins fan! Been a cowboys fan all my life as was my dad and grandfather. I wanted the skins to do well in the playoffs for 1 purpose only. For them to rub it in jerry face so that it puts pressure on him to hopefully make some "smart" changes. I see that hasn't been the case so far!

 

[gimmesix]

These were opposing QB's numbers against our defense over the first 10 games:
188 of 305 2,031 yds 11 td 4 int 87.7 rtg

That would be a little lower than the middle of the league, or about 5-5.

Ryan has always had an inflated opinion of his abilities as a coordinator. I'm sure most do, but the Ryans seem to like to brag about it even when the numbers don't back them up.

 

[Lazyking]

Here's my question for those more knowledgeable than myself. As we watch the NFL offense evolve with this so called new breed of QB are the defenses going to devolve back to a 4-3? My understanding is that the 3-4 gives you more speed which I would think better deals with a "running" QB and a pass happy league and that the 4-3 deals better with a traditional running offense, running with a RB that is. Does anyone actually think that we revert back to a 4-3 and if so do the dominoes start to fall like they did when everyone went to a 3-4? Also what does the draft look like this year for making the change? One last thing, will Ratliff have a probowl season playing in a full time 4-3? Thanks.

there isn't enough Running QBs to change a whole defense to it.. less then a third of the league's QB starters and frankly, I don't think those players will have the longevity to do it for 10 years plus.. no one really has yet.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Forcing turnovers isn't on the DC.

If Charles Tillman was on the Cowboys, he'd probably have as many forced fumbles as with the bears.

Some players just have knack for it and sadly, we had very little pass rush to force the issue.

I'm not pissed he's gone.. healthly, this team can play good defense, get some pass rushers and boom, it could be top ten BUT Garrett should have lost his playcalling duties way before Ryan lost his job.

Someone teaches him and reinforces the point to get the football out. Its not just Tillman, you cant just use one example. His players have ALWAYS went for the football. Its probably his KEY point of emphasis. You are wrong.

 

[muck4doo]

Ryan has always had an inflated opinion of his abilities as a coordinator. I'm sure most do, but the Ryans seem to like to brag about it even when the numbers don't back them up.

Our GM also has an inflated opinion of himself.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Such superlatives thrown around so loosely.

Let's see. They aren't the best ILB pairing in the league. They certainly weren't this year. They barely played together. When Carter was emerging, Lee was on crutches. Ware was a shell of his former self this year. Hatcher and terrific should only be used together in this sentence - Jason Hatcher isn't terrific. Brent didn't have a fine year. He was decent and improving before the incident. Coleman is a marginal player at best. As is Spears. Lissemore is just okay. Ratliff wasn't on the field and looks to be in rapid physical decline. Crawford was a raw rookie.

Front seven not good enough. No team allows the QB production we did without serious issues along the front seven. That's where it all happens. This is why nothing changes despite adding cornerback after cornerback. Sign two more this spring. Nothing will change. I promise you.

And what position did Ryan say he was most interested in this past offseason when it came to reviewing available talent for the draft?


The secondary.

If the secondary was overbuilt at the expense of the front seven, then Ryan was right there leading the parade.

And that would be another reason to support his firing... yes?

 

[RS12]

Tim MacMahon ‏@espn_macmahon
Three potential Cowboys defensive coordinator candidates, from @toddarcher: Monte Kiffin, Dave Wannstedt, Lovie Smith. http://es.pn/a4zWEu
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Hope it isnt Kiffin. He is like 90 years old and his defense got roasted this year.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I have no problem with that statement. But it isn't exactly an endorsement of Ryan.

I'll take this move (depending on who we get to replace him, if we switch to a 4-3, etc.) and continue to hope one is coming as well at OC.

On one hand it is an endorsement because he really had a lot of injury issues that tied his hands with respect to the kind of scheme he played.

On the other, there were times where I thought they took the foot off the pedal on defense.

So while I think he could have done better, he did FAR better than the HC/OC.

 

[Vertigo_17]

fingers crossed it's Smith

 

[17yearsandcounting]

:laugh1: at people who think an established, respected, far superior Head Coach like Lovie Smith would come work as an underling to the clueless noob Jason Garrett. Yeah. Sure. :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

Right? The guy who got fired for going 10-6 is going to come be subordinate to the guy who scraped 8-8 two years in a row?

 

[muck4doo]

And what position did Ryan say he was most interested in this past offseason when it came to reviewing available talent for the draft?


The secondary.

If the secondary was overbuilt at the expense of the front seven, then Ryan was right there leading the parade.

And that would be another reason to support his firing... yes?

No. Watch Jerry. He's going to hire a yes-sir ****** in his place. He won't stop until we all acknowledge Jerry as a brilliant football guy. He is Al Davis with better business skills, and worse football knowledge.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Tim MacMahon ‏@espn_macmahon
Three potential Cowboys defensive coordinator candidates, from @toddarcher: Monte Kiffin, Dave Wannstedt, Lovie Smith. http://es.pn/a4zWEu

 

[rbr651]

there isn't enough Running QBs to change a whole defense to it.. less then a third of the league's QB starters and frankly, I don't think those players will have the longevity to do it for 10 years plus.. no one really has yet.

This is what I also believe, but on the same hand I think a guy like Cam or maybe even a guy built like Vince Young stands to hold up longer than a Vick or RGIII, it just seemed like the entire league went to the 3-4 being that it was the next big thing in the NFL, what's the benefit of playing a 4-3 versus a 3-4? Is it QB pressure without having to send a blitzzer, to me it would seem that if you can get pressure with 3, which we can't, you would be better suited in coverage and more successful sending the fourth guy when you do.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

:laugh1: at people who think an established, respected, far superior Head Coach like Lovie Smith would come work as an underling to the clueless noob Jason Garrett. Yeah. Sure. :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

I would prefer Lovie as the HC/DC and get another OC and can Callahan.

 

[Lazyking]

Someone teaches him and reinforces the point to get the football out. Its not just Tillman, you cant just use one example. His players have ALWAYS went for the football. Its probably his KEY point of emphasis. You are wrong.

Wait I'm wrong because you somehow know Rob Ryan doesn't teach the same thing? Every DC teaches how to strip the ball.. it's common sense and you see every team try to do it.. some are just more successful then others.