Robert Griffin III

[Tusan_Homichi]

I usually don't comment on guys coming out of college, but this guy is going to be something when he gets to the NFL. I really believe that.

 

[TheFinisher]

Griffen has yet to play great teams. is schedule gets stronger soon, lets see how he plays vs these better teams. Griffen plays alot like Vince Young did. In a spread offense, throws deep balls to open WRs, hardly ever making great tight passes in a tight window.
He has ever really made audibles and read the defense, all these things you have to be able to do in the pros.

Now, don't get me wrong here, it's not like he can't do these things, I just haven't seen him do it on a regular basis. With time to learn and develop he might be able to do all these things. What I have read about the guy, he is a smart person, works hard, and wants to keep getting better, which is something Vince Young didn't have.

My verdict on Griffen is still out, I'm going to wait until the end of the season to release my final verdict. I like him, I like watching him play, he is a fun play to watch, but not 100% sold on him.

If Garrett and the coaching staff and the scouts really like him and think he can develop into a starting QB in a few years, then right now its fine by me with a pick in the 2nd.

Griffin is in a different league than Vince Young was as a passer.

He's making a case for himself to be the #1 overall pick this year.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

just stating fact there Aibach

Plus his INT was right to the guy

could not have thrown a prettier INT

If you think RGIII isn't better than Troy Smith you're crazy...

 

[supercowboy8]

Griffin is in a different league than Vince Young was as a passer.

He's making a case for himself to be the #1 overall pick this year.

I think you need to go back and watch some Vince Young Texas highlights or games. Griffen usually just throws it long to a open WR or dumps it off. Hardley ever see him make that tight in the window pass or the on the rope with some zip pass.

Griffen will not be #1 overall, write it down now.

 

[TheFinisher]

I think you need to go back and watch some Vince Young Texas highlights or games. Griffen usually just throws it long to a open WR or dumps it off. Hardley ever see him make that tight in the window pass or the on the rope with some zip pass.

Griffen will not be #1 overall, write it down now.

I think you need to go back and watch some more Robert Griffin. He laces throws in tight windows every game.

 

[supercowboy8]

I think you need to go back and watch some more Robert Griffin. He laces throws in tight windows every game.

No I have never really seen it, here or there he does, and if you go back and read my post from yesterday, I did say he could do it. Right now the scheme is like a west coast scheme. Dump off safe passes and long bombs. Very few passes are at the second level in traffic.

I think Griffen can be a top 5 pick.

http://nflsfuture.com/robert-griffin-iii-scouting-report/

 

[Zaxor]

I think he is going to be a very good QB at the next level

 

[Doomsday101]

Griffin’s interception costs Bears in 36-35 loss

you did not watch the game did you?

He threw the int alright. only due to his offensive lineman being pushed into him as he was throwing the pass.

Heading into this year I was not sold on Griffin ability to play QB at the next level. I no longer feel that way, he shows a lot of poise as a pocket QB and has the athletic ability to make plays on the run when he has to.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I usually don't comment on guys coming out of college, but this guy is going to be something when he gets to the NFL. I really believe that.

I do, too. I wouldn't have said that a year or two ago, but he's improved his passing immensely. He already throws the ball at least as well as Cam Newton IMO.

Plus, he has top-notch intangibles and character.

I think people will be surprised at how high he's drafted.

Right now the scheme is like a west coast scheme. Dump off safe passes and long bombs. Very few passes are at the second level in traffic.

Had to comment on this... I guess you've missed all those 20 yard post/slant patterns that are dead on the money with plenty of velocity. Those are absolutely NFL throws. Some spread offenses are all bubble screens and dumpoffs, but Griffin does more than that.

 

[casmith07]

I think you need to go back and watch some more Robert Griffin. He laces throws in tight windows every game.

Pretty much this. And he throws his guys to a spot, as I said before. He's not throwing to open guys, but throwing to gaps where the WRs are supposed to go.

That's called reading a defense.

 

[casmith07]

I do, too. I wouldn't have said that a year or two ago, but he's improved his passing immensely. He already throws the ball at least as well as Cam Newton IMO.

Plus, he has top-notch intangibles and character.

I think people will be surprised at how high he's drafted.

Had to comment on this... I guess you've missed all those 20 yard post/slant patterns that are dead on the money with plenty of velocity. Those are absolutely NFL throws. Some spread offenses are all bubble screens and dumpoffs, but Griffin does more than that.

He throws it better than Cam Newton does and Cam Newton can gun it.

Cam just didn't have to throw that much because he's a physical specimen. But in the NFL he's shown his ability to read a defense and make big throws.

Griffin, on the other hand, stands in the pocket and throws lasers all game. It's ridiculous. He's got an arm like Michael Vick with a "+Accuracy" cheat code turned on.

 

[Dawgs0916]

Maaaaaaaaaan. I wonder if I said this THREE YEARS AGO, and got massively mocked by every single person on this board. It is what it is.

 

[supercowboy8]

Pretty much this. And he throws his guys to a spot, as I said before. He's not throwing to open guys, but throwing to gaps where the WRs are supposed to go.

That's called reading a defense.

can you show me some clips of him throwing in the 2nd level on some crossing, post, or slants.
I'm not talking in the 1st level with dump offs, or not the 3rd level pass with the deep throws. I want to see these laced throws, the throws that are on a rope.

Not saying he can't do it. Like I said many times before, I think its his system. e plays QB in a spread, west coast type offense. Alot of dump offs and deep balls. Griffen is very accurate on the deep ball, but so was Vince Young.

But also like I said in my other post, Griffen is a smart persona and has great character and knows you have to keep working hard, which is something Vince Young didn't have.

 

[realtick]

Seriously, this thread is hilarious and will be fun to look at a couple years from now. There are two or three 6' 1-2"ish 190+ lb QB that can run/pass in college every single season. Griffin is having a fantastic start to his college season, but I have yet to see any reason that he has the requisite skills to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL, let alone be a Top 5-10 pick as some here are supposing.

 

[joseephuss]

Seriously, this thread is hilarious and will be fun to look at a couple years from now. There are two or three 6' 1-2"ish 190+ lb QB that can run/pass in college every single season. Griffin is having a fantastic start to his college season, but I have yet to see any reason that he has the requisite skills to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL, let alone be a Top 5-10 pick as some here are supposing.

No one is really talking about the bonus he brings to the field with his ability to run. He is a passer first and foremost. He started his college career as a decent passer and he keeps getting better. I don't know where he will end up being drafted, but I think he has the tools needed to become a starter in the NFL.

 

[Doomsday101]

No one is really talking about the bonus he brings to the field with his ability to run. He is a passer first and foremost. He started his college career as a decent passer and he keeps getting better. I don't know where he will end up being drafted, but I think he has the tools needed to become a starter in the NFL.

I agree. Last year I would have said he was a great athlete but not franchise type QB. I have since changed my mind, this kid is highly accurate, has a strong arm and a quick release of the ball. I do take into account the style of offense he runs but when I watch him throwing the outs, slants and seam routs this kid is very good.

 

[Picksix]

Watching the Baylor/ISU game right now, and they showed a clip of RGIII talking about starting law school in the Fall. Might not even be coming out this year. I will say this. He alread has his Bachelor's, will have his Master's at the end of this year, and might start law school next Fall. I think this kid can do just about anything he sets his mind to.

 

[Aikbach]

Watching the Baylor/ISU game right now, and they showed a clip of RGIII talking about starting law school in the Fall. Might not even be coming out this year. I will say this. He alread has his Bachelor's, will have his Master's at the end of this year, and might start law school next Fall. I think this kid can do just about anything he sets his mind to.

he'll probably be the Governor of Texas and President one day, I'm only being mildly facetiousness, he's bright.

 

[realtick]

No one is really talking about the bonus he brings to the field with his ability to run. He is a passer first and foremost. He started his college career as a decent passer and he keeps getting better. I don't know where he will end up being drafted, but I think he has the tools needed to become a starter in the NFL.

I don't speak on it because it's not a huge bonus to me. This is a passing league; the best QBs in this league are known for the elite passing aspect of their game. There is an anamoly in Mike Vick, but I don't even consider him an elite QB. The bottomline in this league is that you have to be able to move the ball through the air against complex defensive schemes, through tight windows, with pinpoint accuracy and uncanny anticipation, against supreme athletes in the secondary.

RG3 is an interesting prospect having a tremendous year thus far. However, having seen him play, I'm highly skeptical of how his game translates to the pro game. It's it's not just the fact he plays in spread offense, is a bit of a scrambler, et cetera. I could show you highlights of Graham Harrell a few years ago that would have you thinking he's a surefire future HOF at the next level.

 

[Aikbach]

I don't speak on it because it's not a huge bonus to me. This is a passing league; the best QBs in this league are known for the elite passing aspect of their game. There is an anamoly in Mike Vick, but I don't even consider him an elite QB. The bottomline in this league is that you have to be able to move the ball through the air against complex defensive schemes, through tight windows, with pinpoint accuracy and uncanny anticipation, against supreme athletes in the secondary.

RG3 is an interesting prospect having a tremendous year thus far. However, having seen him play, I'm highly skeptical of how his game translates to the pro game. It's it's not just the fact he plays in spread offense, is a bit of a scrambler, et cetera. I could show you highlights of Graham Harrell a few years ago that would have you thinking he's a surefire future HOF at the next level.

Well then you neglect the recent past with Elway, Young and to a lesser extent Favre and Montana, the scrambling threat was a huge part of their game.

In fact i've heard many commentators compare RG3 to Young.