Rock music is dead!

[PJTHEDOORS]

That's not what I said, I said he was one of the reasons it died in the first place. I followed it up with:

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That whole scene, which was popularized by people like Cobain, in my view, spelt the 'end' of 'rock'.

You said their music brand as being depressing, which has Cobains lyrics. My point was many other rock bands from that era (not Grunge) also had depressing lyrics too.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Or depressing story lines as you say.

 

[khiladi]

First of all, grunge and Seattle became main-stream. Certain 'rock' bands shifted to that story-line, but it in no way defined rock. I really don't get what your point is. Telling me certain rock bands had 'depressing' lyrics as somehow some refutation of what Grunge and Seattle music was all about is pretty absurd.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

First of all, grunge and Seattle became main-stream. Certain 'rock' bands shifted to that story-line, but it in no way defined rock. I really don't get what your point is. Telling me certain rock bands had 'depressing' lyrics as somehow some refutation of what Grunge and Seattle music was all about is pretty absurd.

Goth rock, metal rock, all used depressing story lines in their music. Whether it's the topic of death, drugs, doom, whatever. It was used in many bands not just from Seattle. If that's too absurd to understand, fine. Depress on that.

 

[khiladi]

Goth rock, metal rock, all used depressing story lines in their music. Whether it's the topic of death, drugs, doom, whatever. It was used in many bands not just from Seattle. If that's too absurd to understand, fine. Depress on that.

Goth has always been under-ground and so has Death metal. I don't get what is so hard about understanding this basic fact? When people say Rock is dead, they aren't referring to this under-ground genres, they refer to bands like Kiss, you know, the guy this thread started about. Metal rock on the other hand was not following these story lines of depression and kill yourself themes. As I said before as well, electric guitar solos for example use to define rock in the past, while Nirvana played three cords in their songs.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

Just a quick thought that popped in my brain....

Remember when rock stars looked like rock stars?
Guys that you wanted to be like and your girlfriend wanted to be with.
David Lee Roth
Robert Plant
Phil Lynott
Jim Morrison
Roger Daltrey

Now they all look like guys that work at the Geek Squad in Best Buy, which also got me wondering, what ever happened to the American male? Are they still there or do they just smell funny.

 

[Hoov]

I seriously couldn't stand that era of the 90s, especially as far as music was concerned. The lyrics were depressing, the music wasn't complicated at all and it took teen angst to 'darkness'. All of the sudden, black was everywhere. Don't get me started on flannel shirts.

Grunge effectively destroyed rock to me.

agree 100%

 

[Hoov]

You either loved it or absolutely hated it. I remember guitar solos started majorly sucking, if songs even had them.

LOL. I did not like the grunge era either.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

No disrespect intended, but Cobain's suicide didn't make a ripple to most anybody who grew up on Zeppelin, Who, Yes, Pink Floyd, Hendrix, etc etc etc

Great voice, songs. But his importance is overstated.

 

[jimmy40]

Never been a big van of VH since. Damn that Eddie. Him touching that keyboard changed everything. I heard a couple of songs of VH1 last weekend and still cranked it. Great stuff.

It took a long time for the keyboard Eddie to grow on me, always liked "I'll Wait" and "Panama" more than "Jump" from first keyboard songs. I saw them in Dallas in '08 and "Jump" was the encore song so it's their most popular I guess.

 

[jimmy40]

It was kind of before my time but I know about Kurt. He was obviously a very troubled guy. I do like that one Nirvana song "Heart Shaped Box" or whatever it is.

I find his story so sad. But you know people accept that dark life of drugs & it rarely ends well.

wake up next to this and a gun would probable be one of the first things you'd reach for.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

It took a long time for the keyboard Eddie to grow on me, always liked "I'll Wait" and "Panama" more than "Jump" from first keyboard songs. I saw them in Dallas in '08 and "Jump" was the encore song so it's their most popular I guess.

I saw VH for the first time at the OKC Civic Center which at the time held about 2500 people. They were on fire ,on the way up and obviously the next big thing.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

wake up next to this and a gun would probable be one of the first things you'd reach for.

Drug addicts hang together. And sometime even marry.

 

[jimmy40]

I saw VH for the first time at the OKC Civic Center which at the time held about 2500 people. They were on fire ,on the way up and obviously the next big thing.

they were in fine form in '08, I still say they were piping in Michael Anthony's voice though
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[BIGDen]

Have not heard anything from tool in some time.

Liked them when they came out, they were a little different...kind of reminded me of a Pink Floyd vibe for rock/industrial type vibe.

Tool is an amazing band. They are just an incredibly frustrating group to like. Their last album came out in 2006. They have had material for an album for a while but the guitar player (Adam Jones) is some sort of perfectionist where he takes forever to feel like a song is done. They've had legal issues and some other stuff which has also contributed to the album's delay. Fortunately they still tour every couple of years so you can catch their stellar live show. Did a VIP thing this past March in Vegas with Tool and it was awesome. They just need to come out with new music!

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Great voice, songs. But his importance is overstated.

I don't know about that, one could argue he was the most innovative musician in the 1990s

 

[DoctorChicken]

But Muse is still around. And they're just as awesome as ever.

Guitarist of the Decade? Wow.

With his insane vocal range, huge falsetto, custom, sparkly red guitar with a touch-screen built in, his classical training in piano (he's written a symphony), plus the fact that he holds the world record for most instruments smashed on-stage, Matthew Bellamy is a true, bonafide Rock Star.



Muse for the Super Bowl Halftime show!!!!!!!

 

[BIGDen]

But Muse is still around. And they're just as awesome as ever.

Guitarist of the Decade? Wow.

With his insane vocal range, huge falsetto, custom, sparkly red guitar with a touch-screen built in, his classical training in piano (he's written a symphony), plus the fact that he holds the world record for most instruments smashed on-stage, Matthew Bellamy is a true, bonafide Rock Star.



Muse for the Super Bowl Halftime show!!!!!!!

Muse is one of the few groups of the past 15 years that I truly respect. Although I wish Matt Bellamy would whine less on some songs, they are an excellent band. I've always respected their unbelievable musical range and talent. Last year I saw them live and was blown away. Bellamy is beyond talented. Just incredible. Everything about their show was amazing and I've been to countless concerts over the past 25 or so years. I typically like about half of the songs on a Muse album. When you put together all of those songs from all of their albums, you get a large number of great songs. There are not too many bands from the past 15 years that I can say that about.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I don't know about that, one could argue he was the most innovative musician in the 1990s

I love his music.
I am sure he had an impact. Just think it's overstated because he is dead.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Rock is alive and well. I was jamming to Nickelback on the way to work today.

hope this is a joke