Role of traditional FB in Garrett's offensive scheme

[Woods]

It seems that Garrett may be moving towards, or at least significantly integrating, the H-Back in his evolving offense.

Given the way J Phillips was increasingly utilized last season, that the scouting staff at least seemed interested in Graham at the Senior Bowl (as a FB/H-Back, I assume), perhaps wanting to getting more versatility out of that position, and D Anderson's potential legal problems, I wonder if we either

1. Draft another TE this year and move J Phillips to FB/H-Back, or
2. We either draft or go the FA route and pick up a FB who offers a bit more versatility than who we have currently on the roster?

Just on the surface, it seems to me that Garrett may want to utilize the FB similar to the way NO utilizes their FB (where the FB can be another pass catching "threat" as well).

Finally, I'd add that the FB Philly added last year, Weaver, seemed like a nice addition to their roster. He probably fits the mold of the more traditional FB, however, with good running skills as well.

Opinions?

 

[Hoofbite]

I'd rather not spend any picks on a TE or FB.

 

[CF74]

What's out there in the late rounds?

 

[Hoofbite]

I really just don't see the need for a FB to be a real pass catching threat in this offense.

If other teams can do it, so what. At some point you gotta start working with what you have and not with what you want to have.

As it stands, there are plenty of players on the team who can contribute plenty but aren't really used that much. Bennett, Choice, Felix are all guys who got fewer opportunities then they should have.

Chasing a FB who can be a pass catcher is like the Bennett situation all over again. Dallas just had to have that monster threat opposite of Witten because it would really open things up.

Identify your playmakers and get role players around them. No team should need threats at every position. I don't think there is much I would like about drafting a FB or TE in any round.

 

[Quarterback Coach]

It seems that Garrett may be moving towards, or at least significantly integrating, the H-Back in his evolving offense.

Given the way J Phillips was increasingly utilized last season, that the scouting staff at least seemed interested in Graham at the Senior Bowl (as a FB/H-Back, I assume), perhaps wanting to getting more versatility out of that position, and D Anderson's potential legal problems, I wonder if we either

1. Draft another TE this year and move J Phillips to FB/H-Back, or
2. We either draft or go the FA route and pick up a FB who offers a bit more versatility than who we have currently on the roster?

Just on the surface, it seems to me that Garrett may want to utilize the FB similar to the way NO utilizes their FB (where the FB can be another pass catching "threat" as well).

Finally, I'd add that the FB Philly added last year, Weaver, seemed like a nice addition to their roster. He probably fits the mold of the more traditional FB, however, with good running skills as well.

Opinions?

Would this be much in the same way we utilize Martellus?

Oh, and then are not willing to trade him for a 1st round pick?

 

[Woods]

What's out there in the late rounds?

I was looking what was available in FA, but it seems that the good FBs are all RFAs this year (unless someone gets cut).

In terms of the late rounds, I'm still trying to get an idea of some H-Back/TE tweeners. I guess guys who are around 6-2/6-4 in height, around 250-260 lbs, and can catch and block.

 

[Woods]

Would this be much in the same way we utilize Martellus?

Oh, and then are not willing to trade him for a 1st round pick?

I think M Bennett is more of our 2 TE package, though he's not really an H-Back type, IMO. Phillips seemed to play more of that role last season, from what I can make out.

 

[Woods]

I really just don't see the need for a FB to be a real pass catching threat in this offense.

If other teams can do it, so what. At some point you gotta start working with what you have and not with what you want to have.

As it stands, there are plenty of players on the team who can contribute plenty but aren't really used that much. Bennett, Choice, Felix are all guys who got fewer opportunities then they should have.

Chasing a FB who can be a pass catcher is like the Bennett situation all over again. Dallas just had to have that monster threat opposite of Witten because it would really open things up.

Identify your playmakers and get role players around them. No team should need threats at every position. I don't think there is much I would like about drafting a FB or TE in any round.

It's not that Cricket isn't serviceable, but from an offensive perspective, he doesn't offer too much.

I realize that OL, ILB, S are bigger needs, but if we can get something more out of that FB position, I wouldn't mind, esp late in the draft.

 

[Quarterback Coach]

I think M Bennett is more of our 2 TE package, though he's not really an H-Back type, IMO. Phillips seemed to play more of that role last season, from what I can make out.

No...I was being sarcastic about Garrett's ingeniousness (wow, I spelled that way wrong I'm sure)...

 

[Hoofbite]

It's not that Cricket isn't serviceable, but from an offensive perspective, he doesn't offer too much.

I realize that OL, ILB, S are bigger needs, but if we can get something more out of that FB position, I wouldn't mind, esp late in the draft.

I rather work on what the team already has.

 

[CF74]

I really just don't see the need for a FB to be a real pass catching threat in this offense.

Identify your playmakers and get role players around them. No team should need threats at every position. I don't think there is much I would like about drafting a FB or TE in any round.

It's just an option that wouldn't get any more than 1-3 passes a game, real good play action opportunity in goal line situations.

Would this be much in the same way we utilize Martellus?

Oh, and then are not willing to trade him for a 1st round pick?

Tellus is to big to play a glorified FB role but I'd trade him for a Top 10 pick.

I was looking what was available in FA, but it seems that the good FBs are all RFAs this year (unless someone gets cut).

In terms of the late rounds, I'm still trying to get an idea of some H-Back/TE tweeners. I guess guys who are around 6-2/6-4 in height, around 250-260 lbs, and can catch and block.

6/4 seems kinda big, there's gotta be some sleepers out there though..

 

[DaBoys4Life]

We should of gotten rid of Anderson a long time ago.

 

[BAT]

Phillips emergence should all but eliminate Anderson's touches, even w/out the legal problems. But Cowboys love their 3 TE sets, so the FB spot may need at least a backup. Cowboys should consider drafting a FB, or another TE_preferably a player like Phillips, who can do both.

Another option: trade mid-late 2nd day pick for Houston's James Casey (6'3 250) or Cincy's Kolo Kapanui (6'3 270). TEs that should excel at FB.

Not crazy about any of the FB options in the upcoming draft. Very weak class.

 

[The Realist]

Aaron Hernandez 6-2/250, 4.6-4.65, Junior TE from Florida.

 

[SDogo]

I would rather carry a 4th TE then keep a FB on the roster that is not used.

 

[Woods]

I would rather carry a 4th TE then keep a FB on the roster that is not used.

That's how I feel as well.

And I'll add that the FB that the Saints picked up from NE Pats this past off-season (Thomas) did contribute to the Saints' win. He was able to catch a couple of key passes from Brees.

I don't know . . . . maybe I just miss the days of Moose. The guy could do nearly everything from the FB position.

But getting back to Garrett, I think he's is moving to using more of an H-Back than a pure FB in developing the Offense.

 

[UnoDallas]

Tony Moeaki - the TE from Iowa

this kid just makes plays

he 6-4 maybe 6-3 250

Moeaki is anywhere from the fourth- to 13th-best tight end in the draft. Some mock draft sites have him as high as the late second round, others have him late in the sixth.

To go along with the great size and speed, he also has great hands, as demonstrated against Wisconsin when he made a ninja-like touchdown catch in the back of the end zone to tie the game.

Perhaps his greatest, and most overlooked skill, is his ability to run block. Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz hasn't overlooked it, and thinks the senior from the Island of Tonga is one of the most talented tight ends he has ever coached

 

[casmith07]

Role of traditional FB in Garrett's offensive scheme

1. Not to block.
2. Not to run the ball.
3. Not to score.
4. Not to add a single thing to the offensive success or failure to the team.

No need. Cut him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

1. Not to block.
2. Not to run the ball.
3. Not to score.
4. Not to add a single thing to the offensive success or failure to the team.

No need. Cut him.

 

[jobberone]

The more weapons the better off we are. I'd love to have a banger in there at FB who is also a receiving threat. I do think that is hard to find.